course Mth 174
As I stated in my response, I did not understand what was being asked for in the added problem (old 11.7.10). The book gives examples using graphs of dP/dt v. t, but not dP/dt / P v. t.
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Question:
Query problem 11.7.21 was 11.7.6 plot (dP/dt) / P vs. t, where P is a solution to 1000 / P dP/dt = 100 - P with initial population P = 0.
Can P(t) ever exceed 200?
Can P(t) ever drop below 100?
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STUDENT SOLUTION:
1000/P dP/dt = 100 - P
dP/dt = (P/1000)*(100-P)
dP/dt = 0.1P*[(100-P)/100]
Therefore, L = 100; k = 0.1
P(0) = 200
A = (L - P(0))/P(0) = (100 200)/200 = -1/2
P = L/(1+Ae^(-kt) = 100/[1-(1/2)e^(-0.1t)
Graphing this function with P(0) = 200 results in a curve that is concave up,at t=0 intercepts the y-axis (P) at P=200, and has L=100 as a horizontal asymptote. Therefore, P cannot be greater than 200 or less than 100.
INSTRUCTOR SOLUTION
First analyzing the equation qualitatively we draw the following conclusions:
If P is initially 200 then we have at t = 0 the equation
1000 / 200 * dP/dt = 100 - 200 so that
dP/dt = -20,
which tells us that the population initially decreases.
As long as P > 100 the population will continue to decrease, since dP/dt = (100 - P) * (P / 1000) will remain negative as long as P > 100.
As P approaches 100 from 'above'--i.e., from populations greater than 100—the rate of change dP/dt = (100 - P) * P / 1000 approaches 0. So the population cannot decrease to less than 100 if it starts at a value greater than 100.
Symbolic interpretation:
This equation is of the form dP/dt = k P ( 1 - P / L). Its solution is obtained by the process in the text (write in the form dP / [ P ( L – P) ] = k / L dt , integrate the left-hand side by separation of variables, etc.).
The solution is P = L / (1 + A e^(-k t) ) with A = (L - P0) / P0.
The present problem has dP/dt = P/1000 * (100 - P) has L = 100 and k = 1/1000, with P0 = 200, so A = (100 - 200) / 200 = -1/2 and its solution is
P = 100 / (1 + (-1/2) e^(-t/1000) ) = 100 / (1 - 1/2 e^(-t/1000) ).
For t = 0 the denominator is 1/2; as t -> infinity e^(-t/1000) -> 0 and the denominator approaches 1.
Thus P is initially 100 / (1/2) = 200, as we already know, and at t increases the population approaches 100 / 1 = 100, with the denominator 1 - ½ e^(-t/1000) always less than 1 so that the population is always greater than 100.
Specific detailed solution:
We will separate variables and integrate.
1000 dP/dt = P ( 100 - P ) so
dP / (P ( 100 - P ) = dt/1000.
Using partial fractions the integral on the left is .01 ( ln | P | - ln | 100 -
P | ).
Accepting that P can't exceed 100, we have | 100 - P | = 100 - P.
So we end up with
ln ( P / (100 - P) ) = .1 t + C so that
P / (100 - P) = A e^(.1 t), where A = e^c: Since c is arbitrary, A is an
arbitrary positive number.
If you multiply both sides by 100 - P you get
P = 100 * A e^(.1 t) - P * A e^(.1 t) .
The existing equation can be rearranged so that all P terms are on the left. P
can then be factored, and the equation finall solved for P:
P - P * A e^(.1 t) = 100 A e^(.1 t)
P ( 1 - A e^(.1 t)) = -100 A e^(.1 t)
P = 100 A e^(.1 t) / (1 - A e^(.1 t) ).
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Query problem 11.7.17 plot (dP/dt) / P vs. t for given population data and estimate a and b for 1 / P dP/dt = a - bt; solve and sketch soln. sample pop: 1800 5.3, 1850 23.1, 1900 76, 1950 150, 1990 248.7
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10:54:48
what are your values of a and b?
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I don't understand what this question is asking for. I plotted P v. t, and I used the calculator to fit a logistic equation to this data:
P = 469.245/[1+46.432e^(-0.021t)]
But this is as far as I got. The items requested in the question don't match what's in the text.
STUDENT QUESTION
I don't understand what this question is asking for. I plotted P v. t, and I used the calculator to fit a logistic equation to this data:
P = 469.245/[1+46.432e^(-0.021t)]
But this is as far as I got.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE
The given solution plots 'dP / P vs. t for the four
intervals corresponding to the five given times.
Using the values of P and t at the midpoint of each interval we get the first
table.
The second table changes the t scale so it dates from the common reference point
1800. That is, t values are now interpreted
as the number of years since 1800.
When we construct a graph of ( `dp / `dt ) / P vs. t, we find that it is a
nearly straight line with slope -.0001 and y
intercept about .028, which we replace with the slightly more accurate .0275.
That is, our graph is well fit by the straight
line y = -.0001 t + .0275. Here, y is (dP/dt) / P, so our straight line
represents the equation
(dP/dt) / P = -.0001 t + .0275 or
1 / P dP/dt = -.0001 t + .0275. Separating variables we get
dP / P = (-.0001 t + .0275) dt. Integrating and simplifying we get the model
P = A e^(.0275 t - .00005 t^2).
We could still evaluate A by plugging in a set of known values of P and t. For
example, if we plug in the 1990 values we get
248 = A e^(.0275 * 190 - .00005 * 190^2) and
A = 248 / e^(.0275 * 190 - .00005 * 190^2) = 8.11.
Our function would therefore become
P = 8.11 * e^(.0275 * t - .00005 * t^2).
Evaluating this function for t = 0, 50, 100 and 150 we get populations of about
8, 28, 77 and 162 million, close to the given
populations for 1800, 1850, 1900 and 1950.
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10:55:00
What are the coordinates of your graph points corresponding to years 1800, 1850, 1900, 1950 and 1990?
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See previous response.
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10:55:09
According to your model when will the U.S. population be a maximum, if ever?
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See previous response.
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10:55:17
Give your solution to the differential equation and describe your sketch of the solution.
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See previous response.
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Question:
Query problem 11.7.28 was 11.7.14 (was 10.7.18) dP/dt = P^2 - 6 P
Your solution:
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Given Solution:
describe your graph of dP/dt vs. P, P>0
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dP/dt on y-axis, P on x-axis
Graph is a portion of a parabola. From (0,0) graph is decreasing and concave up with a minimum at (3,-9), then increasing, passing (6,0) and continuing to increase without bound.
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11:20:55
describe the approximate shape of the solution curve for the differential equation, and describe how you used your previous graph to determine the shape; describe in particular how you determined where P was increasing and where decreasing, and where it was concave of where concave down
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For P(0)=5: I plotted a portion of the slope field from the the previous graph to determine the shape of the solution curve, beginning with slope = -5 for Pzero=5. Since the slopes are all negative from P = 5 to P = 0, with increasingly negative slopes until P = 3 (slope -9), and then decreasingly negative slopes to P = 0, P decreases towards 0 as a limit (where the slope is 0).
The curve is concave down from t = 0 until P reaches 3, which occurs at t = 0.5 (approx.) (this point corresponds the the minimum of (3,-9) on the dP/dt v. P curve--slope of P'=0). The curve is then concave up as t increases without limit and the curve approaches P = 0.
For P(0)=8, the slope of the curve is positive and rapidly increasing, thus P increases without bound as t>>infinity. The curve is concave up throughout, since dP/dt is increasing without bound as P increases.
<h3>** dP/dt = P^2 - 6 P is a quadratic function a P^2 + b P + c of P, with a = 1 and b = -6. The function opens upward, with its vertex at P = -b / (2a) = -(-6) / (2 * 1) = 3. At this point P^2 - 6 P = 9 - 18 = -9.
The graph has zeros where P^2 - 6 P = 0, or P(P-6) = 0. The zeros are therefore at P = 0 and P = 6.
Thus between P = 0 and P = 6 the value of dP/dt = P^2 - 6 P is negative. dP/dt = 0 at P =0 and at P = 6 and reaches its minimum at P = 3.
If P(0) = 5 then dP/dt = 5^2 - 6 * 5 = -5 so the population initially decreases. As P decreases it comes closer to P = 3, at which value dP/dt is minimized so that the rate of decrease is greatest, so the P vs. t curve will become steeper and steeper in the downward direction. Up to the P = 3 point the graph of P vs. t will therefore be concave downard.
After P decreases to less than 3 the values of dP/dt begin to increase toward 0, however still remaining negative. The graph of P vs. t will become concave upward, with P approaching zero for large t.
If P(0) = 8 then dP/dt = 8^2 - 6 * 8 = 16 so the population initially increases. As P increases dP/dt also increases rate of increase is increasing, so the P vs. t curve will become steeper and steeper in the upward direction. The graph of P vs. t will therefore remain concave upward. The graph of P vs. t therefore continues to increase at an increasing rate, exceeding all bounds as t -> infinity. **
** This equation is of the form dP/dt = k P (1 - P / L):
P^2 - 6 P = P ( P - 6) = -P(6 - P) = -6 P ( 1 - P/6). So the right-hand side has form k P ( 1 - P / L) with k = -6 and L = 6.
You should know how to derive the solution to dP/dt = k P (1 - P / L), which is P = L / (1 + A e^(-k t) ) with A = (L - P0) / P0.
The solution in this case has A = (6 - P0) / P0.
For P0 = 5 we have A = 1/5 and P = 6 / (1 + 1/5 e^(-(-6) * t) ) = 6 / (1 + 1/5 e^(6 t) ).
The denominator increases without bound as t -> infinity, so that P approaches zero as t increases. ** </h3>
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11:43:16
describe how the nature of the solution changes around P = 6 and explain the meaning of the term 'threshold population'.
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If P(0) < 6, then then dP/dt is initially negative, P is decreasing, and dP/dt remains negative as P approaches 0 as a limit. If P(0) > 6, dP/dt is initially positive, P is increasing, and dP/dt remains positive as P increases without bound. If P(0) = 6, dP/dt = 0 and the population remains 6 as t increases.
Threshold population is the minimum initial population above which the population will grow as t increases. In this case the threshold population is 6, and the population will grow as long as P(0) > 6.
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Query 11.8.6 (was page 570 #10) robins, worms, w=2, r=2 init
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what are your estimates of the maximum and minimum robin populations, and what are the corresponding worm populations?
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Using the slope field to create the closed curve, the maximum robin population is approximately 2,500 with a corresponding worm population of approximately 1,000,000. The minimum robin population is approximately 400 with a corresponding worm population also approximately 1,000,000. Since dr/dt = -r +wr, with w(0)=2 and r(0) = 2, dr/dt = -2 + (2)(2) = +2. Therefore, r is intially increasing and the population point is moving counterclockwise around the closed curve.
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11:57:08
Explain, if you have not our a done so, how used to given slope field to obtain your estimates.
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