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Question: `qQuery introductory problem set 54 #'s 14-18.

Explain whether, and if so how, the force on a charged particle due to the

field between two capacitor plates is affected by its velocity.

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Your Solution:

The velocity should have no affect on the force on a charge particle.

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Given Solution:

** There is a force due to the electric field between the plates, but the

effect of an electric field does not depend on velocity.

The plates of a capacitor do not create a magnetic field. **

Explain whether, and if so how, the force on a charged particle due to the

magnetic field created by a wire coil is affected by its velocity.

** A wire coil does create a magnetic field perpendicular to the plane of

the coil.

If the charged particle moves in a direction perpendicular to the coil then

a force F = q v B is exerted by the field perpendicular to both the motion

of the particle and the direction of the field. The precise direction is

determined by the right-hand rule. **

Explain how the net force changes with velocity as a charged particle

passes through the field between two capacitor plates, moving perpendicular

to the constant electric field, in the presence of a constant magnetic

field oriented perpendicular to both the velocity of the particle and the

field of the capacitor.

** At low enough velocities the magnetic force F = q v B is smaller in

magnitude than the electrostatic force F = q E. At high enough velocities

the magnetic force is greater in magnitude than the electrostatic force. At

a certain specific velocity, which turns out to be v = E / B, the

magnitudes of the two forces are equal.

If the perpendicular magnetic and electric fields exert forces in opposite

directions on the charged particle then when the magnitudes of the forces

are equal the net force on the particle is zero and it passes through the

region undeflected. **

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Question: `qQuery Principles and General Physics 20.2: Force on wire of

length 160 meters carrying 150 amps at 65 degrees to Earth's magnetic field

of 5.5 * 10^-5 T.

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Your Solution:

Force on a current = I * L * B sin(theta)

= 150 amps * 160 m * 5.5 e^-5 T sin(65)

= 1.2 N

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Given Solution:

The force on a current is I * L * B sin(theta) = 150 amps * 160 meters *

5.5 * 10^-5 T * sin(65 deg) = 1.20 amp * m * (N / (amp m) ) = 1.20 Newtons.

Note that a Tesla, the unit of magnetic field, has units of Newtons / (amp

meter), meaning that a 1 Tesla field acting perpendicular to a 1 amp

current in a carrier of length 1 meters produces a force of 1 Newton. The

question didn't ask, but be sure you know that the direction of the force

is perpendicular to the directions of the current and of the field, as

determined by the right-hand rule (fingers in direction of current, hand

oriented to 'turn' fingers toward field, thumb in direction of force).

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Question: `qQuery Principles and General Physics 20.10. Force on electron

at 8.75 * 10^5 m/s east in vertical upward magnetic field of .75 T.

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Your Solution:

F = q * v * B

F = 1.6 e^-19 C * 8.75 e^5 m/s * .75 T

= 1.05 e^-13 N

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Given Solution:

The magnitude of the force on a moving charge, exerted by a magnetic field

perpendicular to the direction of motion, is q v B, where q is the charge,

v the velocity and B the field. The force in this case is therefore

F = q v B = 1.6 * 10^-19 C * 8.75 * 10^5 m/s * .75 T = 1.05 * 10^-13 C m/s

* T = 1.05 * 10^-13 N.

(units analysis: C m/s * T = C m/s * (N / (amp m) ) = C m/s * (kg m/s^2) /

((C/s) * m), with all units expressed as fundamental units. The C m/s in

the numerator 'cancels' with the C m/s in the denominator, leaving kg

m/s^2, or Newtons).

The direction of the force is determined by the right-hand rule (q v X B)

with the fingers in the direction of the vector q v, with the hand oriented

to turn the fingers toward the direction of B. The charge q of the electron

is negative, so q v will be in the direction opposite v, to the west. In

order for the fingers to 'turn' qv toward B, the palm will therefore be

facing upward, the fingers toward the west, so that the thumb will be

pointing to the north. The force is therefore directed to the north.

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Question: `qQuery General Physics Problem (formerly 20.32, but omitted from

new version). This problem is not assigned but you should solve it now: If

an electron is considered to orbit a proton in a circular orbit of radius

.529 * 10^-10 meters (the electron doesn't really move around the proton in

a circle; the behavior of this system at the quantum level does not

actually involve a circular orbit, but the result obtained from this

assumption agrees with the results of quantum mechanics), the electron's

motion constitutes a current along its path. What is the field produced at

the location of the proton by the current that results from this 'orbit'?

To obtain an answer you might want to first answer the two questions:

1. What is the velocity of the electron?

2. What therefore is the current produced by the electron?

How did you calculate the magnetic field produced by this current?

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Given Solution:

If you know the orbital velocity of the electron and orbital radius then

you can determine how long it takes to return to a given point in its

orbit. So the charge of 1 electron 'circulates' around the orbit in that

time interval.

Current is charge flowing past a point / time interval.

Setting centripetal force = Coulomb attraction for the orbital radius,

which is .529 Angstroms = .529 * 10^-10 meters, we have

m v^2 / r = k q1 q2 / r^2 so that

v = sqrt(k q1 q2 / (m r) ). Evaluating for k, with q1 = q2 = fundamental

charge and m = mass of the electron we obtain

v = 2.19 * 10^6 m/s.

The circumference of the orbit is

`dt = 2 pi r

so the time required to complete an orbit is

`dt = 2 pi r / v, which we evaluate for the v obtained above. We find that

`dt = 1.52 * 10^-16 second.

Thus the current is

I = `dq / `dt = q / `dt, where q is the charge of the electron. Simplifying

we get

I = .00105 amp, approx..

The magnetic field due to a .00105 amp current in a loop of radius .529

Angstroms is

B = k ' * 2 pi r I / r^2 = 2 pi k ' I / r = 12.5 Tesla. **

STUDENT COMMENT

I follow the part where you find the time required to travel around the

circle and how to find the current.

The velocity part is still a little hard for me to get.

I just don't think I couldv'e came up with that formula on my own. Now that

I see it it makes more sense though.

Then the magnetic field is B = k*2pi*r*I/r^2

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Just as for orbiting satellites, the centripetal force is m v^2 / r. This

time the force comes from Coulomb's Law, not Newton's Law of Universal

Gravitation. However the process is otherwise the same: set centripetal

acceleration equal to Coulomb force and solve for v.

The fundamental relationship that governs magnetic fields created by

currents is the following, which you should know:

A current element I * `dL produces a magnetic field k ' I * `dL / r^2, at

any point such that a line from that point to the

current element is perpendicular to the current element.

This condition applies to the magnetic field produced at the center by any

short segment of a circular current.

All the current segments around the circle have a total length of 2 pi r,

so when we add up all the k ' * I * `dL / r^2

contributions of all the segments we get k ' * I * (2 pi r) / r^2. (This

expression can of course be simplified, but leaving it in its 'raw' form

for now emphasizes the use of the circumference 2 pi r.)

So basically, because of the symmetry of the circle about its center, we

can replace `dL by the total circumference 2 pi r.

The result is the magnetic field at the center of the loop.

The formula, in case you prefer to memorize it, is B = 2 pi k ' I / r.

It's fine to memorize this formula, but an alternative to cluttering up

your memory is to understand how it is obtained by replacing `dL in the

basic law with the circumference 2 pi r.

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Question: `qquery univ 27.60 / 27.56 11th edition 27.60 (28.46 10th

edition). cyclotron 3.5 T field.

What is the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 2.7 MeV?

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Your Solution:

From physics I, centripetal force = F = mv^2/r

Magnetic field perpendicular to v = F = q v B

We can set these equal:

m v^2 / r = q v B

Solving for r:

r = mv / (qB)

The kinetic energy of the proton = 2.7 e^6 * (1.6 e^-19 )

= 4.32 e^-13 J

v = sqrt(2 KE /m)

v = sqrt( 2 * 4.32 e^-13 J / 1.67 e^-27 kg)

v = 2.3 e^7 m/s

r = m v / (qB) = 1.67 e^-27 kg * 2.3 e^7 m/s / (1.6 e^-19 C * 3.5 T)

r = .067 m

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Given Solution:

We know that the centripetal force for an object moving in a circle is

F = m v^2 / r.

In a magnetic field perpendicular to the velocity this force is equal to

the magnetic force F = q v B.

So we have m v^2 / r = q v B so that

r = m v / (q B).

A proton with ke 2.7 MeV = 2.7 * 10^6 * (1.6 * 10^-19 J) = 4.32 * 10^-13 J

has velocity such that

v = sqrt(2 KE / m) = sqrt(2 * 3.2 * 10^-13 J / (1.67 * 10^-27 kg) ) = 2.3 *

10^7 m/s approx..

So we have

r = m v / (q B) = 1.67 * 10^-27 kg * 2.3 * 10^7 m/s / (1.6 * 10^-19 C * 3.5

T) = .067 m approx. **

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Good, however the solution has a wrong number where

v = sqrt(2 KE / m) = sqrt(2 * 3.2 * 10^-13 J / (1.67 * 10^-27 kg) ) = 2.3 *

10^7 m/s

3.2 * 10^-13 J should be 4.32 * 10^-13 J

everything else is correct though, it must have been entered wrong

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Question: `qWhat is the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy

5.4 MeV?

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Your Solution:

KE = 1/2 m v^2

from above, we calculated r = .067 m for 2.7 MeV

If we double the KE to 5.4 MeV, we increase v by sqrt(2)

Therefore the radius is increased by the same factor so that

r = sqrt(2) * .067 = .095 m

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Given Solution:

** Doubling the KE of the proton increases velocity by factor sqrt(2) and

therefore increases the radius of the orbit by the same factor. We end up

with a radius of about .096 m. **

STUDENT QUESTION

what numbers were used to find this?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

In Problem 27.60, above, we found the radius of orbit for a proton with

kinetic energy 2.7 MeV.

Here we are finding the radius for a proton with twice the KE.

We could do this in the same manner as before, and we would get the same

result.

However thinking in terms of the proportionality, as is done here, is both

more efficient and more instructive.

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I used exact value for sqrt(2) so I got .095 instead of .096

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Question: `qquery univ 27.74 / 27.72 11th edition 28.66 (was 28.52) rail

gun bar mass m with current I across rails, magnetic field B perpendicular

to loop formed by bars and rails

What is the expression for the magnitude of the force on the bar, and what

is the direction of the force?

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Your Solution:

F = I L B

F = ma

a = I L B / m

v_ave = (v0 + vf) / 2 = `ds / `dt

a_ave = `dv / `dt = (vf - v0) / `dt

vf ^2 = v0^2 + 2 a 'ds

ds = (vf^2 - v0^2) / (2a)

ds = vf^2 / 2a

'ds = v^2 / ((2 I L B )/ m)

'ds = m v^2 / (2 I L B)

'ds = 25 kg * (1.12 e^4 m/s)^2 / (2 * 2000 A * .5 T * .5 m)

= 3.2 e^6 m

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Given Solution:

** The length of the bar is given as L. So the force is I L B, since the

current and field are perpendicular.

The acceleration of the bar is therefore a = I L B / m.

If the distance required to achieve a given velocity is `ds and initial

velocity is 0 then

vf^2 = v0^2 + 2 a `ds gives us

ds = (vf^2 - v0^2) / (2 a) = vf^2 / (2 a).

If v stands for the desired final velocity this is written

`ds = v^2 / (2 a).

In terms of I, L, B and m we have

`ds = v^2 / (2 I L B / m) = m v^2 / (2 I L B).

Note that we would get the same expression using KE: since (neglecting

dissipative losses) we have `dKE = `dW = F `ds we have `ds = `dKE / F = 1/2

m v^2 / (I L B).

For the given quantities we get

`ds = 25 kg * (1.12 * 10^4 m/s)^2 / (2 * 2000 amps * .50 Tesla * .5 meters)

= 3.2 * 10^6 meters, or about 3200 km. **

STUDENT QUESTION

I could find the magnitude of the force, but I don’t really understand the

velocity equation laid out above.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

vf^2 = v0^2 + 2 a `ds

is one of the basic equations of uniformly accelerated motion, easily

derived from the definitions of velocity and acceleration:

vAve = (v0 + vf) / 2 = `ds / `dt

aAve = `dv / `dt = (vf - v0) / `dt.

We get the equations

`ds / `dt = (v0 + vf) / 2

a = (vf - v0) / `dt

from which we can eliminate `dt, obtaining

vf^2 = v0^2 + 2 a `ds.

Here, `ds stands for the displacement, v0 and vf for initial and final

velocities, and a for acceleration on the interval in question.

Armed with this equation, then, and having found the expression for a,

knowing that the initial velocity is zero we easily solve for the `ds

necessary to achive the desired vf.

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Question: `qquery 28.66 u quark + 2/3 e and d quark -1/3 e

counterclockwise, clockwise in neutron (r = 1.20 * 10^-15 m)

What are the current and the magnetic moment produced by the u quark?

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Your Solution:

f = v / 2 pi r

I = qf

I = qv/(2 pi r)

magnetic moment, mu = IA

IA = q v ( 2 pi r) * pi r^2

IA = q v r / 2

Therefore the total moment

= 2/3 e * v r/2 + 2(1/3 e * v r/2)

= 2/3 e v r

v = 3/2 mu /(e r)

v = 3/2 * 9.66 e^-27 A m^2 / (1.6 e^-19 C * 1.2 e^-16 m)

v = 7.5 e^7 m/s

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Given Solution:

** If r is the radius of the orbit and v the velocity then the frequency of

an orbit is f = v / (2 pi r).

The frequency tells you how many times the charge passes a given point per

unit of time. If the charge is q then the current must therefore be

I = q f = q v / (2 pi r).

Half the magnetic moment is due to the u quark, which carries charge equal

and opposite to the combined charge of both d quarks, the other half to the

d quarks (which circulate, according to this model, in the opposite

direction with the same radius so that the two d quarks contribute current

equal to, and of the same sign, as the u quark).

The area enclosed by the path is pi r^2, so that the magnetic moment of a

quark is

I A = q v / (2 pi r) * pi r^2 = q v r / 2.

The total magnetic moment is therefore

2/3 e * v r / 2 + 2 ( 1/3 e * v r / 2) = 4/3 e v r / 2 = 2/3 e v r..

Setting this equal to the observed magnetic moment mu we have

2/3 e v r = mu so that

v = 3/2 mu / (e r) = 3/2 * 9.66 * 10^-27 A m^2 / (1.6 * 10^-19 C * 1.20 *

10^-15 m) = 7.5 * 10^7 m/s, approx..

Note that units are A m^2 / (C m) = C / s * m^2 / (C m) = m / s. **

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Question: `qquery univ 28.78 / 28.70 11th edition 28.68 (29.56 10th

edition) infinite L-shaped conductor toward left and downward. Point a

units to right of L along line of current from left. Current I.

What is the magnetic field at the specified point?

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Your Solution:

One side of the L shaped conductor is parallel to the Point. So the

magnetic field due to that side would be 0.

I am not really sure how to finish this problem...

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STUDENT RESPONSE FOLLOWED BY SOLUTION:

I could not figure out the magnetic field affecting point P. the current is

cursing

** I assume you mean 'coursing', though the slip is understandable **

toward P then suddnely turns down at a right angle. If I assume that the

magnetic field of a thin wire is radial in all directions perpendicular to

the wire, then it is possible that at least one field line would be a

straight line from the wire to point P. It seems to me that from that field

line,down the to the lower length of the wire, would affect at P.

SOLUTION:

The r vector from any segment along the horizontal section of the wire

would be parallel to the current segment, so sin(theta) would be 0 and the

contribution `dB = k ' I `dL / r^2 sin(theta) would be zero. So the

horizontal section contributes no current at the point.

Let the y axis be directed upward with its origin at the 'bend'. Then a

segment of length `dy at position y will lie at distance r = sqrt(y^2 +

a^2) from the point and the sine of the angle from the r vector to the

point is a / sqrt(y^2 + a^2). The field resulting from this segment is

therefore

`dB = k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt(a^2 + y^2).

Crossing the I `dy vector with the r vector tells us the `dB is coming at

us out of the paper (fingers extended along neg y axis, ready to 'turn'

toward r results in thumb pointing up toward us away from the paper). This

is the direction for all `dB contributions so B will have the same

direction.

Summing all contributions we have sum(k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt

(a^2 + y^2), y from 0 to -infinity).

Taking the limit as `dy -> 0 we get the integral of k ' I a / (a^2 + y^2)^

(3/2) with respect to y, with y from 0 to -infinity.

This integral is -k ' I / a. So the field is

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'dB = k ' I ' dL / r^2 sin(theta) = 0 when parallel to current segment

a segment of length 'dy at position y would be at distance

r = sqrt(y^2 + a^2) using pythagoreans theorem from P

the sin of the angle from the r vector to P is a/sqrt(qrty^2 + a^2)

Therefore the field from this segment = 'dB = k ' I ' dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a

/ sqrt(a^2 + y^2)

I 'dy X r comes out of the paper using the right hand rule

this is the direction for all 'dB contributions so B will also have this

direction

sum(k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt(a^2 + y^2), y from 0 to -infinity).

Take the limit as 'dy goes to 0

= integral k ' I a / (a^2 + y^2)^(3/2) with respect to y, with y from 0 to

-infinity

This integral = -k ' I / a

Therefore the field =

B = -k ' I / a ; directed upward out of the page

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