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If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions at

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Your solution, attempt at solution.

If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it. This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

014. Potential energy; conservative and non-conservative forces.

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Question: `q001. An automobile of mass 1500 kg coasts from rest through a displacement of 200 meters down a 3% incline. How much work is done on the automobile by its weight component parallel to the incline?

If no other forces act in the direction of motion (this assumes frictionless motion, which is of course not realistic but we assume it anyway because this ideal situation often gives us valuable insights which can then be modified to situations involving friction), what will be the final velocity of the automobile?

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Your solution:

a = 9.8m/s^2 * .03 = .29 m/s^2 approx

Fnet = 1500kg * .29m/s^2 = 435N approx

`dWnet_on = Fnet * `ds = 435N * 200m = 87,000 J

vf^2=v0^2 + 2a * `ds

vf^2 = 0 + 2 * 29 m/s^2 * 200m

vf^2 = 116m^2/s^2

vf = +-11m/s approx.

Take the positive value.

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Given Solution:

The weight of the automobile is 1500 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 14,700 Newtons. The weight component parallel to the incline is therefore very close to the small-slope approximation

weight * slope = 14700 Newtons * .03 = 441 Newtons (small-slope approximation).

If no other forces act parallel to the incline then the net force will be just before 441 Newtons and the work done by the net force will be

`dWnet = 441 Newtons * 200 meters = 88200 Joules.

[ Note that this work was done by a component of the gravitational force, and that it is the work done on the automobile by gravity. ]

The net work on a system is equal to its change in KE. Since the automobile started from rest, the final KE will equal the change in KE and will therefore be 88200 Joules, and the final velocity is found from 1/2 m vf^2 = KEf to be

vf = +_`sqrt(2 * KEf / m) = +-`sqrt(2 * 88200 Joules / (1500 kg) ) = +-`sqrt(2 * 88200 kg m^2/s^2 / (1500 kg) ) = +- 10.9 m/s (approx.).

Since the displacement down the ramp is regarded as positive and the automotive will end up with a velocity in this direction, we choose the +10.9 m/s alternative.

STUDENT QUESTION: I assume the perpendicular force is balanced beause of the normal force downward of gravity and mass and then upward from the road.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

Good, but there's a little more to it:

The normal force balances the component of the gravitational force which is perpendicular to the road. The component of the gravitational force parallel to the incline is the for that tends to accelerated objects downhill.

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Self-critique (if necessary):OK I used the fourth equation for uniform acceleration for the last part. It is helpful to see how they arrive at the same answer.

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Question: `q002. If the automobile in the preceding problem is given an initial velocity of 10.9 m/s up the ramp, then if the only force acting in the direction of motion is the force of gravity down the incline, how much work must be done by the gravitational force in order to stop the automobile?

How can this result be used, without invoking the equations of motion, to determine how far the automobile travels up the incline before stopping?

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Your solution:

Since the change in KE will be the same as in the last problem we can use the KEf as -88200J

So the work done must be 88200J -- not sure how the signs would work here.

`dWnet = 88200Nm = Fnet *m = 441 *m = 200m

This seems too convenient.

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Given Solution:

This is an application of the work-kinetic energy theorem.

In words, this theorem says that

the change in KE is equal to the work done by the net force acting ON the system

In symbols, this is expressed

`dW_net = `d(KE).

KE is kinetic energy, equal to 1/2 m v^2.

The automobile starts out with kinetic energy

KEinit = 1/2 m v0^2 = 1/2 (1500 kg) ( 10.9 m/s)^2 = 88000 kg m^2/s^2 = 88000 Joules.

The gravitational force component parallel to the incline is in this case opposite to the direction of motion so that gravity does negative work on the automobile. Since the change in KE is equal to the work done by the net force acting ON the system, if the gravitational force component parallel to the incline does negative work the KE of the object will decrease. This will continue until the object reaches zero KE.

As found previously the gravitational force component along the incline has magnitude 441 Newtons. In this case the forces directed opposite to the direction motion, so if the direction up the incline is taken to be positive this force component must be -441 N. By the assumptions of the problem this is the net force exerted on the object.

Acting through displacement `ds this force will therefore do work `dWnet = Fnet * `ds = -441 N * `ds. Since this force must reduce the KE from 88,000 Joules to 0, `dWnet must be -88,000 Joules. Thus

`dW_net = -441 N * `ds = -88,000 Joules

and

`ds = -88,000 J / (-441 N) = 200 meters (approx.).

Had the arithmetic been done precisely, using the precise final velocity found in the previous exercise instead of the 10.9 m/s approximation, we would have found that the displacement is exactly 200 meters.

STUDENT QUESTION

I set `dKE = Fnet * `ds and had `dKE as negative so I came up with the correct solution

but just above you say that work is negative.

I don’t understand how work is negative, especially going by the equation because I thought work was opposite `dKE.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

You're thinking about exactly the right things.

The specific statement of the work-KE theorem is that the work done by the net force acting ON the system is equal to the change in the kinetic energy of the system. This is abbreviated

`dW_ON_net = `dKE.

Rather that talking about 'the work', it's very important to get into the habit of labeling 'the work' very specifically. You have two basic choices. You can think in terms of

the work done on the system or object by a force

the work done by the system or object against a force

The two are equal and opposite.

Note that the words 'on' and 'by' modify the word 'system', not the word 'force'.

The key phrases are 'on the system' and 'by the system'.

In the present case if you were to choose to think in terms of the work done by the net force exerted by object, then this force would be labeled `dW_BY_net and would be equal and opposite to `dW_ON_net, the work exerted by the net force acting on the object. Formally we would have

`dW_BY_net = - `dW_ON_net so that

`dW_BY_net = - `dKE.

This last equation is often written

`dW_BY_net + `dKE = 0,

and is another equivalent formulation of the work-kinetic energy theorem.

STUDENT COMMENT

I am getting all the equations mixed up is there any way you can just send the different equations? I understand the 4 from the major quiz. I can do the algebra I just don’t know which equation to plug it in for.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Physics is about more than figuring out what to plug into what equation. It's necessary to understand the words and the concepts to know which equation to plug into. In other words, the concepts are what keep us from getting the equations mixed up.

However I have observed in your work that you do very well with the algebra. So the equations might well be your most appropriate starting point. You can use the equations to understand the words and the concepts, just as less algebraically adept students might use the words and concepts to understand the equations.

The relevant relationships here are

`dW_net = `dKE and

KE = 1/2 m v^2.

The relationship

`dW_BY_net = - `dW_ON_net

is also invoked in the additional comments at the end, which mention an alternative formulation of the work-kinetic energy theorem. However this relationship is not used in solving this particular problem.

STUDENT COMMENT

OK, I understand the solution and will use _on and _by descriptors in my

answers from now on.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Good.

Remember that ON and BY are adjectives applied to the word 'system', not to the word 'force'.

That is, you have to determine whether the force is acting ON the system, or is exerted BY the system.

Your choice of point of view will determine whether you use the equation

`dW_NC_ON = `dPE + `dKE

or

`dW_NC_BY + `dPE + `dKE = 0.

STUDENT COMMENT

Ok. I see why my ‘ds was negative. The F is negative in this system because it is working against the positive motion of the car UP the ramp. For every force, there is an equal and OPPOSITE force.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Good. If you assume the positive direction to be up the incline, F_net is negative, as you say, but the specific reason is slightly different than the one you give. It's good to think in terms of equal and opposite forces, but the motion of the car is not a force.

In this case it really just comes down to signs:

The force used to calculate `dW_net was the net force acting on the car. That force acts down the incline, in the direction opposite motion. Therefore F_net and `ds are of opposite sign, and the net force acting on the car does negative work. This decreases the KE, as your solution indicates.

The question of whether `ds is positive or negative depends on which direction you choose for the positive direction. In your solution you apparently thought of upward as the positive direction; you should have explicitly stated this. Relative to this choice F_net is negative.

As I mentioned, you should have declared the positive direction in your solution. You could have chosen either upward (which is the direction of the displacement, and is the direction you implicity chose) or downward (which is the direction of the net force) to be the positive direction.

Either choice of positive direction would have been perfectly natural. If you had chosen 'down the incline' to be the positive direction, then `ds would have been negative (therefore opposite to the downward direction, so up the incline). In either case, `ds would have been up the incline.

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Self-critique (if necessary):OK - I was sloppy with my signs which didn't give me the wrong anwer here, but could trip me up later.

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Question: `q003. If the automobile in the previous example rolls from its maximum displacement back to its original position, without the intervention of any forces in the direction of motion other than the parallel component of the gravitational force, how much of its original 88200 Joules of KE will it have when it again returns to this position?

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Your solution:

If I am imagining this correctly. If returns to a position where it had 88200J of KE, than it will once again have 88,200J of KE

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Given Solution:

In the first exercise in the present series of problems related to this ramp, we found that when the automobile coasts 200 meters down the incline its KE increases by an amount equal to the work done on it by the gravitational force, or by 88200 Joules. Thus the automobile will regain all of its 88200 Joules of kinetic energy.

To summarize the situation here, if the automobile is given a kinetic energy of 88200 Joules at the bottom of the ramp then if it coasts up the ramp it will coast until gravity has done -88200 Joules of work on it, leaving it with 0 KE. Coasting back down the ramp, gravity works in the direction of motion and therefore does +88200 Joules of work on it, thereby increasing its KE back to its original 88200 Joules.

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Question: `q004. Explain why, in the absence of friction or other forces other than the gravitational component parallel to incline, whenever an object is given a kinetic energy in the form of a velocity up the incline, and is then allowed to coast to its maximum displacement up the incline before coasting back down, that object will return to its original position with the same KE it previously had at this position.

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Your solution:

If it is back to its original position where it had a certain specific kinetic energy, it will once again have that original kinetic energy.

Without any other forces at work, the Kinetic energy is effectively spent once it reaches maximum displacment and it is effectively all gained back as it coasts back to its original position. The same mass and magnitude of acceleration and distance applies in each direction. Only the signs change.

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Given Solution:

The car initially had some KE. The gravitational component parallel to the incline is in the direction opposite to the direction of motion up the incline and therefore does negative work ON the object as it travels up the incline.

The gravitational component is the net force on the object, so the work done by this net force on the system causes a negative change in KE, which eventually decreases the KE to zero so that the object stops for an instant. This happens at the position where the work done BY the net force is equal to the negative of the original KE.

The gravitational component parallel to the incline immediately causes the object to begin accelerating down the incline, so that now the parallel gravitational component is in the same direction as the motion and does positive work ON the system.

At any position on the incline, the negative work done by the gravitational component as the object traveled up the incline from that point, and the positive work done by this force as the object returns back down the incline, must be equal and opposite.

This is because the displacement up the incline and the displacement down the incline are equal and opposite, while the parallel gravitational force component remains the same. Thus the Fnet * `ds products for the motion up and the motion down equal and opposite.

When the object reaches its original point, the work that was done on it by the net force, as it rolled up the incline, must be equal and opposite to the work done on it while coasting down the incline. Since the work done on the object while coasting up the incline was the negative of the original KE, the work done while coasting down, being the negative of this quantity, must be equal to the original KE. Thus the KE must return to its original value.

STUDENT QUESTION

I still really don’t understand how it can return back to its original position because of what we saw

in class It never returned back to its original position.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

There are a number of situations in which an object doesn't return to its original position.

The one that's relevant to this situation:

When you rolled the ball up the single incline, it slowed, came to rest for an instant, and then rolled back down. It did return to its initial position. Of course when it got there is was moving pretty fast so if you didn't stop it, it kept going until something else did.

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Question: `q005. As the object travels up the incline, does gravity do positive or negative work on it? Answer the same question for the case when the object travels down the incline.

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Your solution:

Gravity negative work as it travels up the incline and postive work as it travels down the incline. Assuming down the incline is the positive direction.

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Given Solution:

As the object travels up the incline the net force is directed opposite its direction of motion, so that Fnet_ON and `ds have opposite signs and as a result `dWnet = Fnet_ON * `ds must be negative.

As the object travels down the incline the net force is in the direction of its motion so that Fnet_ON and `ds have identical signs and is a result `dWnet = Fnet_ON * `ds must be positive.

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Question: `q006. If positive work is done on the object by gravity, will it increase or decrease kinetic energy of the object?

Answer the same question if negative work is done on the object by gravity.

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Your solution:

If positive work is done on the object the KE will increase. If negative work is done on the object KE will decrease.

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Given Solution:

The KE change of an object must be equal to the work done ON the system by the net force. Therefore if positive work is done on an object by the net force its KE must increase, and if negative work is done by the net force the KE must decrease.

STUDENT QUESTION (instructor comments in parentheses)

Ok, after reading a couple of time I get it dw will be equal to KE. If dw is - Ke will be - .

KE can't be negative; `dW is not equal to KE, but to `dKE, the change in KE.

`dKE can certainly be positive or negative (or zero), depending on the situation.

I am still a little unclear about if the dw done on an object is negative then what direction is it

moving??

The sign of `dW by the net force does not determine the direction of motion of the object. It determines only the change in its kinetic energy.

In the present case, the net force is the component of gravity along the incline. The direction of motion of the object determines whether this force is in the direction of motion or opposite that direction, and so determines whether the displacement is in the direction of motion (implying positive work) or opposite the direction of motion (implying negative work).

The direction of motion thus determines, for this situation, whether `dW_net is positive or negative.

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Question: `q007. While traveling up the incline, does the object do positive or negative work against gravity?

Answer the same question for motion down the incline.

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Your solution:

Up the incline th object is doing positive work against gravity. Down the incline the object is doing negative work against gravity.

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Given Solution:

If the object ends up in the same position as it began, the work done on the object by gravity and work done by the object against gravity must be equal and opposite. Thus when the object does positive work against gravity, as when it travels up the incline, gravity is doing negative work against the object, which therefore tends to lose kinetic energy.

When the object does negative work against gravity, as when traveling down the incline, gravity is doing positive work against the object, which therefore tends to gain kinetic energy.

STUDENT COMMENT:

A little shaky on this problem because I feel its easy to get confused on the positive and negative.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

This is the most common point of confusion at this stage of the course.

To sort out positive and negative, you would answer the following questions:

Are you thinking about the work done ON the system or BY the system (i.e., are you thinking about the forces acting ON the system or a forces exerted BY the system)? The ON and the BY are equal and opposite.

Whichever force you are thinking about, it does positive work when it is in the direction of motion and negative work when it is opposite the direction of motion.

STUDENT QUESTION

Ok, so i get his really mixed up. The work done BY the object is positve, against gravity which is doing negative work ON

the object going up the inlcine. When going down the incline work done BY the object is negative as work done ON the object by gravity is positive.

Is this right?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Your statement is correct.

And, until it 'clicks', this is certainly confusing. It takes most students a few assignments before this becomes clear. You are progressing nicely.

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Question: `q008. Suppose that the gravitational force component exerted parallel to a certain incline on an automobile is 400 Newtons and that the frictional force on the incline is 100 Newtons. The automobile is given an initial KE of 10,000 Joules up the incline. How far does the automobile coast up the incline before starting to coast back down, and how much KE does it have when it returns to its starting point?

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Your solution:

Fnet is 400N + - 100N = 300N

I can tell its going to go about 33 meters up the incline, but how do I do that formally.

`dW_on = -KE = -10,000J

When `dw _on = 10000J the auto will pause.

`dw_on = 300N * `ds

`ds = 33 m approx.

KE will be 10,000J when it returns to the starting point.

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Given Solution:

The net force ON the automobile as it climbs the incline is the sum of the 400 Newton parallel component of the gravitational force, which is exerted down the incline, and the 100 Newton frictional force, which while the automobile is moving up the incline is also exerted down the incline. Thus the net force is 500 Newtons down the incline.

This force will be in the direction opposite to the displacement of the automobile up the incline, and will therefore result in negative work being done on the automobile.

When the work done by this force is equal to -10,000 Joules (the negative of the original KE) the automobile will stop for an instant before beginning to coast back down the incline. If we take the upward direction to be positive the 500 Newton force must be negative, so we see that

-500 Newtons * `ds = -10,000 Joules

so

`ds = -10,000 Joules / -500 Newtons = 20 Newtons meters / Newtons = 20 meters.

After coasting 20 meters up the incline, the automobile will have lost its original 10,000 Joules of kinetic energy and will for an instant be at rest.

The automobile will then coast 20 meters back down the incline, this time with a 400 Newton parallel gravitational component in its direction of motion and a 100 Newton frictional force resisting, and therefore in the direction opposite to, its motion. The net force ON the automobile will thus be 300 Newtons down the incline.

The work done by the 300 Newton force acting parallel to the 20 m downward displacement will be 300 Newtons * 20 meters = 6,000 Joules. This is 4,000 Joules less than the when the car started.

This 4,000 Joules is the work done during the entire 40-meter round trip against a force of 100 Newtons which every instant was opposed to the direction of motion (100 Newtons * 40 meters = 4,000 Newtons). As the car coasted up the hill the frictional force was downhill and while the car coasted down friction was acting in the upward direction.

Had there been no force other than the parallel gravitational component, there would have been no friction or other nongravitational force and the KE on return would have been 10,000 Joules.

STUDENT QUESTION

I’m still not sure how I would find the final KE with all the other forces. I read the given

solution multiple times but I am still really confused.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Your solution was fine for motion up the incline, and agreed with the given solution to that point.

The first line of the given solution that you didn't address in your solution begins

'The automobile will then coast 20 meters back down the incline, ... '

The point you need to understand is that the 400 N gravitational component is still there, but since the car is moving down the incline the 100 N frictional force is now directed up the incline. So the net force on the car is 300 N down the incline.

You therefore know the net force acting on the system, and you know the displacement, so you can easily calculate the work `dW_ON done by this net force. This is equal to the change in KE as the car travels down the ramp.

The car began with 0 KE at the top (it came to rest for an instant), so you can figure out its final KE.

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Self-critique (if necessary):I miscalculated the Fnet for the trip up the slope. I see what I did wrong.

I also got too much into the groove of the previous questions dealing wtih KE to recognize that this problem's inclusion of friction would change the process and calculations. I get it now.

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Question: `q009. The 1500 kg automobile in the original problem of this section coasted 200 meters, starting from rest, down a 3% incline. Thus its vertical displacement was approximately 3% of 200 meters, or 6 meters, in the downward direction.

Recall from the first few problems in this q_a_ that the parallel component of the gravitational force did 88200 Joules of work on the automobile. This, in the absence of other forces in the direction of motion, constituted the work done by the net force and therefore gave the automobile a final KE of 88200 Joules.

How much KE would be automobile gain if it was dropped 6 meters, falling freely through this displacement?

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Your solution:

KE = m*a*`ds = 1500kg*9.8m/s^2*6m = 88,200J

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Given Solution:

Gravity exerts a force of

gravitational force = 1500 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 14700 N

on the automobile. This force acting parallel to the 6 meter displacement would do

`dW by gravitational force = 14700 N * 6 meters = 88200 Joules of work on the automobile.

This is the work done by the entire gravitational force, not just by its component parallel to the incline. It is multiplied by the 6 meter vertical displacement of the automobile, since it acts along the same line as that displacement.

However this is identical to the work done on the automobile by the parallel component of the gravitational force in the original problem. In that problem the parallel component was multiplied by the displacement along the incline (which was much more than 6 meters), since it acts along the same line as that displacement.

STUDENT QUESTION

I do not see how it’s the same amount of work? 88200 Joules

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The first few problems in this qa obtained KE = 88200 Joules.

They also obtained the result that the work done by the parallel component of the gravitational force acting on the system was 88200 Joules.

In this problem we see that in a straight 6 meter drop the work done by gravity is the same, 88200 Joules.

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Self-critique (if necessary):OK

I quickly saw how to calculate this.

??? Is it accurate to say KE = m*a*`ds = 1500kg*9.8m/s^2*6m = 88,200J???

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That would be good, but even better you would say that

`dKE = m * (-g) * `ds = 1500 kg * (-9.8 m/s^2) * (-6 m) = 88 200 J

and since initial KE is zero, the final KE must be 88 200 J.

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Question: `q010. When the automobile was 200 meters 'up the incline' from the lower end of the 3% incline, it was in a position to gain 88200 Joules of energy. An automobile positioned in such a way that it may fall freely through a distance of 6 meters, is also in a position to gain 88200 Joules of energy. The 6 meters is the difference in vertical position between start and finish for both cases.

How might we therefore be justified in a conjecture that the work done on an object by gravity between two points depends only on the difference in the vertical position between those two points?

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Your solution:

I think the answer lies in the slope. The rise/run of this system is 6/200 or .03.

When we calculate work on the incline we use m *a *ds. Let's ignore the mass because that remains constant our a * ds on the incline is .03 * 9.8m/s^2 * 200m or 58.8m^2/s^2

On the free fall, it is 9.8m/s^2 * 6m or 58.8m^2/s^2. They are equal!

They are equal by defintion of the relationship of the slope, rise and run.

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Given Solution:

This is only one example, but there is no reason to expect that the conclusion would be different for any other small incline. Whether the same would be true for a non-constant incline or for more complex situations would require some more proof. However, it can in fact be proved that gravitational forces do in fact have the property that only change in altitude (or a change in distance from the source, which in this example amounts to the same thing) affects the work done by the gravitational force between points.

STUDENT QUESTION

I am not sure about this concept could you elaborate? I am not really even sure what the question is asking in the first

place.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Subsequent questions will also reinforce this idea.

It was shown in previous problems that an automobile at the top of the ramp is in a position to gain about 88000 J

of kinetic energy, by rolling without friction down the incline.

It was also shown that an automobile that falls freely from the top of the ramp to the level of the bottom of the ramp will gain the same amount of kinetic energy.

In both cases the vertical position of the automobile changed by the same amount.

We therefore conjecture that there's something in the change in the vertical position of the automobile that determines

how much energy it can gain or lose to gravity.

STUDENT QUESTION

I got it right. Still cant completely figure ou t the concept though.

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INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

14 700 N raised 6 meters requires 88 200 Joules.

If you roll the car up a 3% incline you only have to exert 3% of the 14 700 N weight (provided friction is negligible), but you have to travel 200 meters in order to raise the car 6 meters. If you multiply force by displacement, you again get 88 200 Joules.

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Self-critique (if necessary):I approached this differently, but I understand your explanation and it awoke a memory from high school physics. I got it.

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Question: `q011. If an object has a way to move from a higher altitude to a lower altitude then it has the potential to increase its kinetic energy as gravity does positive work on it. We therefore say that such an object has a certain amount of potential energy at the higher altitude, relative to the lower altitude. As the object descends, this potential energy decreases. If no nongravitational force opposes the motion, there will be a kinetic energy increase, and the amount of this increase will be the same as the potential energy decrease. The potential energy at the higher position relative to the lower position will be equal to the work that would be done by gravity as the object dropped directly from the higher altitude to the lower.

A person holds a 7-kg bowling ball at the top of a 90-meter tower, and drops the ball to a friend halfway down the tower. What is the potential energy of the ball at the top of the tower relative to the person to whom it will be dropped?

How much kinetic energy will a bowling ball have when it reaches the person at the lower position, assuming that no force acts to oppose the effect of gravity?

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Your solution:

Some friend to drop a bowling ball on you!

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The key word is 'to', not 'on'. However it's a dangerous situation and hopefully there has been good communication, because that ball will be carrying potentially lethal energy.

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PE at top = 7kg * 9.8m/s^2 * 45 meters (since its only relative to the person halfway up.

PE = 3100J approx. (rounded up from 3087J)

When it reaches the person below, it will have a KE of 3100J approx

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Given Solution:

The potential energy of the ball at the top of the tower is equal to the work that would be done by gravity on the ball in dropping from the 90-meter altitude at the top to the 45-meter altitude at the middle of the tower. This work is equal to product of the downward force exerted by gravity on the ball, which is 7 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 68.6 Newtons, and the 45-meter downward displacement of the ball. Both force and displacement are in the same direction so the work would be

work done by gravity if ball dropped 45 meters: 68.6 Newtons * 45 meters = 3100 Joules, approx..

Thus the potential energy of the ball at the top of the tower, relative to the position halfway down the tower, is 3100 Joules. The ball loses 3100 Joules of PE as it drops.

If no force acts to oppose the effect of gravity, then the net force is the gravitational force and the 3100 Joule loss of PE will imply a 3100 Joule gain in KE.

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Self-critique (if necessary):I need to start approaching this from the point of work. I'm just jumping right into PE or KE.

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Your approach was fine.

I chose to state the solution as I did to emphasize the meaning of potential energy.

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Question: `q012. If a force such as air resistance acts to oppose the gravitational force, does this have an effect on the change in potential energy between the two points? Would this force therefore have an effect on the kinetic energy gained by the ball during its descent?

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Your solution: Yes the air resistance is nonconservative so it would lower the amount of kinetic energy gained by the ball during its descent.

It's less intuitive for me, but I suppose this would mean that the loss of PE during the descent would be less if air resistance acts to oppose the gravitational force.

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Given Solution:

The change in potential energy is determined by the work done on the object by gravity, and is not affected by the presence or absence of any other force. However the change in the kinetic energy of the ball depends on the net force exerted, which does in fact depend on whether nongravitational forces in the direction of motion are present.

We can think of the situation as follows: The object loses gravitational potential energy, which in the absence of nongravitational forces will result in a gain in kinetic energy equal in magnitude to the loss of potential energy. If however nongravitational forces oppose the motion, they do negative work on the object, reducing the gain in kinetic energy by an amount equal to this negative work.

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The PE change is the result of only conservative forces; in this case the PE change depends only on the vertical displacement and the gravitational force.

The force of air resistance is nonconservative and has no effect on PE change.

KE change depends on net force, which includes both conservative and nonconservative forces. So KE change is affected by both PE change and the work `dW_nc_ON done by nonconservative forces.

In this case PE change is negative, which tends to increase KE, while nonconservative forces do negative work on the mass, which tends to reduce KE.

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Self-critique (if necessary):I see now why I didn't feel quite comfortable with the air resistance affecting PE because it doesn't. It is a separate force that does affect KE.

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Right.

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Question: `q014. If an average force of 10 Newtons, resulting from air resistance, acts on the bowling ball dropped from the tower, what will be the kinetic energy of the bowling ball when it reaches the halfway point?

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Your solution:

Gravity exerts a force of 68.6 N on the bowling ball. Air resistance exerts a force of -10N

Fnet = 68.6N + - 10N = 58.6N

`dWnet_on = 58.6N * 45meters = 2600J approx.

KE equals 2600J

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Given Solution:

The ball still loses 3100 Joules of potential energy, which in the absence of nongravitational forces would increase its KE by 3100 Joules. However the 10 Newton resisting force does negative work -10 N * 45 m = -450 Joules on the object. The object therefore ends up with KE 3100 J - 450 J = 2650 J instead of the 3100 J it would have in the absence of a resisting force.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

I applied a slightly different step but I believe the very same concept. I rounded differently but the answers are approx the same.

???If we were being very strict on significant figures, since our mass in in 1 sig figure, would the appropriate answer here be 3000J? If that's so, the problem without air resistance would also be 3000J and so we would not be able to see the difference in air resistance. Do I have that right???

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Your approach was equivalent.

The given solution was stated as it was to distinguish between the work done by the conservative gravitational force and the nonconservative force of air resistance.

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