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course Phy 202

Thursday, July 19, 2012, between 7:10 AM and 7:15 AM

If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions at http://vhcc2.vhcc.edu/dsmith/geninfo/labrynth_created_fall_05/levl1_22/levl2_81/file3_259.htm.

Your solution, attempt at solution. If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it. This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

017. `Query 15 ??? (numbered 17 per previous pattern) ???

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Question: `qPrinciples of Physics and General College Physics Problem 23.08. How far from a concave mirror of radius 23.0 cm must an object be placed to form an image at infinity?

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Your solution:

- SOLUTION: Disregarding problems resulting from spherical aberration, focal length = radius / 2 = 11.5 cm.

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Given Solution:

`aRecall that the focal distance of this mirror is the distance at which the reflections of rays parallel to the axis of the mirror will converge, and that the focal distance is half the radius of curvature. In this case the focal distance is therefore 1/2 * 23.0 cm = 11.5 cm.

The image will be at infinity if rays emerging from the object are reflected parallel to the mirror. These rays would follow the same path, but in reverse direction, of parallel rays striking the mirror and being reflected to the focal point. So the object would have to be placed at the focal point, 11.5 cm from the mirror.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK/3 (could have used a bit better explanation of initial premise that object must be placed at focal length [or, more precisely, along radius at focal length] for image to be at infinity, but answer itself was OK)

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Question: `qquery gen phy problem 23.11 radius of curvature of 4.5 x lens held 2.2 cm from tooth

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Your solution:

- SOLUTION A (leaving negative sign in magnification equation): Magnification = -(distance of image from mirror / distance of object from mirror) = -(1/[distance of object from mirror / distance of image from mirror]) = -(1/[(distance of object from mirror - focal length)/(focal length)]) = -([focal length]/[distance of object from mirror - focal length]) = -([radius / 2]/[(distance of object from mirror - [radius / 2])]) = -(radius/[2(distance of object from mirror) - radius])

- - 4.5 = -(radius/[2(distance of object from mirror) - radius]) = -(radius/[4.4 cm - radius]); 19.8 cm - 4.5(radius) = -(radius); 19.8 cm = 3.5(radius); radius = approx. 5.66 cm

- SOLUTION B (omitting negative sign from magnification equation): Magnification = (distance of image from mirror / distance of object from mirror) = (1/[distance of object from mirror / distance of image from mirror]) = (1/[(distance of object from mirror - focal length)/(focal length)]) = ([focal length]/[distance of object from mirror - focal length]) = ([radius / 2]/[(distance of object from mirror - [radius / 2])]) = (radius/[2(distance of object from mirror) - radius])

- - 4.5 = (radius/[2(distance of object from mirror) - radius]) = (radius/[4.4 cm - radius]); 19.8 cm - 4.5(radius) = radius; 19.8 cm = 5.5(radius); radius = 3.6 cm

confidence rating #$&*:5 to 2 (This is way less elegant than it should be, and I keep finding places where I distributed something incorrectly, dropped a sign, etc., so although I can't find anything that I did wrong, I'm almost certain that something is there.)

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Given Solution: ???? I thought that the question was asking about the radius, but the solution below solves for the focal length. I think that the two answers are easily convertible to each other [see below], but did I misread the question? ????

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The object distance is the 2.2 cm separation between tooth and mirror.

The ratio between image size and object size is the same as the ratio between image distance and object distance, so object image distance = 4.5 * object distance = 9.9 cm.

We use the equation 1 / i + 1 / o = 1 / f., where f stands for focal distance.

Image distance is i = 9.9 cm and object distance is o = 2.20 cm so

1/f = 1/i + 1/o, which we solve for f to obtain

* f = i * o / (i + o) = 21.8 cm^2 / (9.9 cm + 2.2 cm) = 1.8 cm or so. ???? Am I correct that this would put the mirror's radius at 3.6 cm, matching my second answer? ????

However i could also be negative. In that case image distance would be -9.9 cm and we would get

* f = -21.8 cm^2 / (-9.9 cm + 2.2 cm) = 2.8 cm or so. ???? Am I correct that this would put the mirror's radius at 5.6 cm, roughly matching my first answer? ????

MORE DETAILED SOLUTION:

We have the two equations

* 1 / image dist + 1 / obj dist = 1 / focal length and

* | image dist / obj dist | = magnification = 4.5,

so the image distance would have to be either 4.5 * object distance = 4.5 * 2.2 cm = 9.9 cm or -9.9 cm.

If image dist is 9.9 cm then we have

* 1 / 9.9 cm + 1 / 2.2 cm = 1/f.

We solve this equation to obtain f = 1.8 cm.

This solution would give us a radius of curvature of 2 * 1.8 cm = 3.6 cm, since the focal distance is half the radius of curvature.

This positive focal distance implies a concave lens, and the image distance being greater than the object distance the tooth will lie at a distance greater than the focal distance from the lens. For this solution we can see from a ray diagram that the image will be real and inverted. The positive image distance also implies the real image.

The magnification is

* magnification = - image dist / obj dist = (-9.9 cm) / (2.2 cm) = - 4.5,

with the negative implying the inverted image.

There is also a solution for the -9.9 m image distance, which would correspond to a positive magnification (i.e., an upright image). The image in this case would be 'behind' the mirror and therefore virtual.

For this case the equation is

* 1 / (-9.9 cm) + 1 / (2.2cm) = 1 / f,

which when solved give us

* f= (-9.9 cm * 2.2 cm) / (-9.9 cm + 2.2 cm) = 2.9 cm, approx.

This solution would give us a radius of curvature of 2 * 2.9 cm = 5.8 cm, since the focal distance is half the radius of curvature.

This positive focal distance also implies a concave lens, but this time the object is closer to the lens than the focal length.

For this solution we can see from a ray diagram that the image will be virtual and upright. The negative image distance also implies the virtual image.

The magnification is

* magnification = - image dist / obj dist = -(-9.9 cm) / (2.2 cm) = + 4.5.

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Self-critique (if necessary): 2.5 (I didn't evaluate the convexity vs. concavity of the mirror. Although the book's version of the problem asked me to do that, your question in this Query didn't mention it, so I'm not sure whether you wanted it, but in any case it would have been nice to do.)

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Self-critique Rating: OK/3

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You're right.

For a spherical lens the focal length is half the radius of curvature, which would therefore be 5.8 cm.

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Question: `q**** query univ phy problem 33.44 11th edition 33.38 (34.28 10th edition) 3 mm plate, n = 1.5, in 3 cm separation between 450 nm source and screen. How many wavelengths are there between the source and the screen?

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Your solution: N/A (omitted as marked for only University Physics students)

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Given Solution:

`a** The separation consists of 1.5 cm = 1.5 * 10^7 nm of air, index of refraction very close to 1, and 1.5 mm = 1.5 * 10^6 nm of glass, index of refraction 1.5.

The wavelength in the glass is 450 nm / 1.5 = 300 nm, approx..

So there are 1.5 * 10^7 nm / (450 nm/wavelength) = 3.3 * 10^4 wavelengths in the air and 1.5 * 10^6 nm / (300 nm/wavelength) = 5.0 * 10^3 wavelengths in the glass. **

STUDENT QUESTION

After reading the solution, I am unsure about why the path difference is equal to twice the plate thickness.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

One ray is reflected from the 'top' surface of the plate. The other passes through the plate to the other surface, is reflected there. It has already passed through the thickness of the plate. It has to pass back through the plate, to the other surface, before it 'rejoins' the original ray. It has therefore traveled an extra distance equal to double that of the plate.

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