PH1 Query 16

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course PHY 201

10/25/2011 1:25 PM

If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per

instructions at

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fall_05/levl1_22/levl2_81/file3_259.htm

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Your solution, attempt at solution. If you are unable

to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase

interpretation of the problem along with a statement

of what you do or do not understand about it. This

response should be given, based on the work you did in

completing the assignment, before you look at the

given solution.

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Question: `qClass notes #15

When a projectile rolls off a ramp with its velocity

in the horizontal direction, why do we expect that its

horizontal range `dx will be proportional to the

square root of its vertical displacement `dy rolling

down the ramp?

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Your solution:

vertical:

'ds =(v0*'dt)+(.5*a*'dt^2),

'ds=.5*a*dt^2,

('ds/.5*a)=dt^2,

+-sqrt('ds/.5*a)='dt

use + because we are finding time,

+sqrt('ds/.5*a)*vAve_horz='ds_horz

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Given Solution:

`a**

A quick synopsis:

The object accelerates uniformly downward, so the

distance it falls is proportional to the square of the

time of fall. Thus the time of fall is proportional

to the square root of the distance fallen.

The object's horizontal velocity is constant, so its

horizontal distance is proportional to the time of

fall.

So the horizontal distance is proportional to the

square root of the distance it falls.

More details:

The distance of vertical fall, starting with vertical

velocity 0, is

`dy = v0 `dt + .5 a `dt^2 = 0 `dt + .5 a `dt^2 = .5 a

`dt^2,

so `dy is proportional to `dt^2.

Equivalently, therefore, `dt is proportional to sqrt

(`dy).

The horizontal distance is

`dx = v_horiz * `dt

so `dx is proportional to `dt.

`dx is proportional to `dt, and `dt is proportional to

sqrt(`dy), so `dx is proportional to sqrt(`dy).

STUDENT RESPONSE WITH INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:

When the

object is accelerating downward the distance it falls

is equal to the square root of the time it takes to

fall.

Right idea but that would be the square of the time,

not the square root.

So the time of our fall is equal to proportional to,

not equal to; again you have the right idea the square

root of the distance the object fell. Our horizontal

velocity is constant which will make our horizontal

distance equal to the time of the fall. Because of

this, the horizontal distance in equal to the square

root of the distance that our object falls.

Good.

To summarize:

The vertical distance is proportional to the square of

the time of fall, so the time of fall is proportional

to the square root of the distance fallen.

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Question: `qIn the preceding situation why do we

expect that the vertical kinetic energy of the ball

will be proportional to `dy?

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Your solution:

vf^2=v0^2+(2*a*'dy),

vf=sqrt(2*a*'dy),

KE=1/2*m*v^2,

KE=1/2*m*(sqrt(2*a*'dy))^2,

or KE=1/2*m*(2*a*'dy)

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Given Solution:

`a**

This could be argued by analyzing the motion of the

object, and using the definition of kinetic energy:

The vertical velocity attained by the ball is vf =

`sqrt(v0^2 + 2 a `ds).

Since the initial vertical velocity is 0, for distance

of fall `dy we have vf = `sqrt( 2 a `dy ), showing

that the vertical velocity is proportional to the

square root of the distance fallen.

Since KE is .5 m v^2, the KE will be proportional to

the square of the velocity, hence to the square of the

square root of `dy.

Thus KE is proportional to `dy. **

In terms of energy the argument is simpler:

PE loss is -m g `dy.

Since m and g are constant for this situation, PE loss

is therefore proportional to `dy. (This means, for

example, that if `dy is doubled then PE loss is

doubled; if `dy is halved then PE loss is halved.)

KE gain is equal to the PE loss, so KE gain is also

proportional to `dy.

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Question: `qWhy do we expect that the KE of the ball

will in fact be less than the PE change of the ball?

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Your solution:

Because of air resistance.

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Given Solution:

`a** There is some air friction, which dissipates some

of the energy. PE is lost and the lost PE goes into

an increase in KE, and into dissipated energy. The KE

increase and dissipated energy 'share' the 'lost' PE.

STUDENT RESPONSE: Because actually some of the energy

will be dissipated in the rotation of the ball as it

drops?

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT: Good try. However there is KE in

the rotation, so rotation accounts for some of the KE

but doesn't dissipate KE. Rotational KE is

recoverable--for example if you place a spinning ball

on an incline the spin can carry the ball a ways up

the incline, doing work in the process. Dissipated

energy is not recoverable.

The PE loss is converted to KE, some into rotational

KE which doesn't contribute to the range of the ball

and some of which simply makes the ball spin.

ANOTHER STUDENT RESPONSE: And also the loss of energy

due to friction and conversion to thermal energy.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT: Good. There would be a slight

amount of air friction and this would dissipate energy

as you describe here, as would friction with the ramp

(which would indeed result in dissipation in the form

of thermal energy). **

STUDENT QUESTION

Ok, so air friction, dissipating energy, lowers the PE

and Increases the KE.

So does this mean that they do not neccessarily have

to be equal and opposite of each other?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Air friction doesn't lower the PE; it's the change in

altitude that lowers the PE (an object's gravitational

potential energy gets lower as it descends). The loss

of PE results in an increase in KE, though not as

great an increase as if air friction wasn't present.

Related to the idea that `dKE and `dPE should be equal

and opposite (which is sometimes the case and

sometimes not):

The energy situation is governed by the work-energy

theorem in the form

`dW_noncons_ON = `dKE + `dPE.

In general, a nonconservative force can increase the

KE and/or the PE in any way at all. It can increase

one without changing the other. `dKE and `dPE are not

generally equal and opposite. For example you can

speed up a cart by pushing or pulling it along a level

surface. The force you exert is nonconservative, and

it increases the KE of the cart without changing its

PE. Or you could lift an object at a constant speed;

its KE wouldn't change but its gravitational PE would.

However in some situations nonconservative forces are

either absent or negligible. For example if you toss a

steel ball a couple of meters into the air and let it

fall to the ground, it doesn't attain enough speed for

air resistance to become significant, so once you

release it the ball pretty much behaves as if

nonconservative forces were absent. Then as it rises

it slows down, decreasing its KE and increasing its

PE. As it then falls its PE decreases but it speeds

up, increasing its KE. Changes in KE and PE turn out,

in this case, to be equal and opposite.

Formally, since `dW_noncons_ON = `dKE + `dPE, it

follows that if there are no nonconservative forces

`dKE + `dPE = 0 and `dKE and `dPE are equal and

opposite.

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Question: `qprin phy and gen phy 6.18 work to stop

1250 kg auto from 105 km/hr

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Your solution:

KE=1/2*m*v^2,

KE=1/2*1250kg*(29.2m/s)^2,

KE=532900Joules=533000Joules approximate

It would take -533000Joules to stop the car.

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Given Solution:

`aThe work required to stop the automobile, by the

work-energy theorem, is equal and opposite to its

change in kinetic energy: `dW = - `dKE.

The initial KE of the automobile is .5 m v^2, and

before calculating this we convert 105 km/hr to m/s:

105 km/hr = 105 km / hr * 1000 m / km * 1 hr / 3600 s

= 29.1 m/s. Our initial KE is therefore

KE = .5 m v^2 = .5 * 1250 kg * (29.1 m/s)^2 = 530,000

kg m^2 / s^2 = 530,000 J.

The car comes to rest so its final KE is 0. The

change in KE is therefore -530,000 J.

It follows that the work required to stop the car is

`dW = - `dKE = - (-530,000 J) = 530,000 J.

STUDENT QUESTION

ok so the KE can be negative and the 'dw can be

positive?

Since the car is coming to rest I see why the KE would

be negative, but I would think that the 'dw would also

be negative ?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The given solution was more intuitive, and wasn't

completely specific in its application of the work-

energy theorem. It would have been more precise to

say that to decrease the car's KE by 530 000 J, the

car had to do 530 000 J of work against friction.

To be really consistent, careful use of the _ON and

_BY subscripts will be helpful:

In terms of the work-energy theorem:

`dW_net_ON = `dKE.

Since the car's KE decreases, `dKE is negative and the

net force acting on the car does negative work. We

conclude that

`dW_net_ON = -530 000 J.

The net force acting on the car is friction, so it

would be accurate to say that the frictional force

acting on the car does -530 000 J of work.

The car exerts an equal and opposite frictional force

on the road. So the work done BY the car is equal and

opposite to the work done ON the car:

`dW_net_BY = -`dW_net_ON = +530 000 J.

So the car does 530 000 J of work, thus decreasing

its KE by 530 000 J.

The problem as stated wasn't specific about whether

the work it requested was done on or by the car, so as

it turns out either answer could be considered

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Question: `qprin and gen phy 6.26. spring const 440

N/m; stretch required to store 25 J of PE.

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Your solution:

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Given Solution:

`aThe force exerted by a spring at equilibrium is 0,

and the force at position x is - k x, so the average

force exerted between equilibrium and position x is (0

+ (-kx) ) / 2 = -1/2 k x. The work done by the spring

as it is stretched from equilibrium to position x, a

displacment of x, is therefore `dW = F * `ds = -1/2 k

x * x = -1/2 k x^2. The only force exerted by the

spring is the conservative elastic force, so the PE

change of the spring is therefore `dPE = -`dW = - (-

1/2 kx^2) = 1/2 k x^2. That is, the spring stores PE

= 1/2 k x^2.

In this situation k = 440 N / m and the desired PE is

25 J. Solving PE = 1/2 k x^2 for x (multiply both

sides by 2 and divide both sides by k, then take the

square root of both sides) we obtain

x = +-sqrt(2 PE / k) = +-sqrt( 2 * 25 J / (440 N/m) )

= +- sqrt( 50 kg m^2 / s^2 / ( (440 kg m/s^2) / m) )=

+- sqrt(50 / 440) sqrt(kg m^2 / s^2 * (s^2 / kg) ) =

+- .34 sqrt(m^2) = +-.34 m.

The spring will store 25 J of energy at either the

+.34 m or the -.34 m position.

Brief summary of elastic PE, leaving out a few

technicalities:

1/2 k x is the average force, x is the displacement so

the work is 1/2 k x * x = 1/2 k x^2

F = -k x

Work to stretch = ave stretching force * distance of

stretch

ave force is average of initial and final force (since

force is linear)

applying these two ideas the work to stretch from

equilibrium to position x is 1/2 k x * x, representing

ave force * distance

the force is conservative, so this is the elastic PE

at position x

STUDENT QUESTION:

What does the kx stand for?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The premise is that when the end of the spring is

displaced from its equilibrium position by

displacement x, it will exert a force F = - k x back

toward the equilibrium point.

Since the force is directed back toward the

equilibrium point, it tends to 'restore' the end of

the spring to its equilibrium position. Thus F in this

case is called the 'restoring force'.

The force is F = - k x, with F being proportional to

x, i.e,. the first power of the displacement. A graph

of F vs. x would therefore be a straight line, and the

restoring force is therefore said to be linear. A

function is linear if its graph is a straight line.

So we say that F = - k x represents a linear restoring

force.

STUDENT QUESTION

Is this another formula, or is it a manipulation of a

formula that we are already given?

I am confused on what this means, I see that we end up

with distance....I see how it is worked out, but I do

not know what

it means

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The force exerted by a spring is F = - k x, where x is

how far it is stretched (positive x) or compressed

(negative x):

If a spring is stretched beyond its equilibrium length

it 'pulls back' with a tension that increases the more

it is stretched. If x is how far it is stretched past

its equilibrium length, then a positive stretch x

results in a tension force in the negative direction.

For an ideal spring, a graph of force vs. stretch is a

straight line through the origin. The equation of this

line is F = - k x. For any ideal spring k is a

constant number which, when multiplied by the stretch,

then by -1 (because the direction of the tension is

opposite that of the stretch), gives us the tension

force.

A negative value of x corresponds to compressing the

spring rather than stretching it. If a spring is

compressed it 'pushes back', exerting a force in the

positive direction. For an ideal spring the equation F

= - k x continues to apply, since a negative value of

x will appropriately result in a positive value of F.

The constant number k is called the spring constant.

At position x the potential energy of the spring is

1/2 k x^2:

When stretched/compressed x units from the equilibrium

length, for the reasons indicated in the given

solution, the average force required is 1/2 k x and

the displacement from equilibrium is x so the work

done is 1/2 k x * x = 1/2 k x^2.

The force exerted by an ideal spring is conservative,

so between equilibrium and position x the PE of the

spring increases by amount 1/2 k x^2.

Taking the PE of the spring to be 0 when x = 0, it

follows that at position x its PE is 1/2 k x^2:

PE_spring = 1/2 k x^2.

In the current example the spring constant is k = 440

Newtons / meter, and we want to find the stretch

needed to give us PE of 25 Joules.

We therefore solve the equation

PE = 1/2 k x^2

for x, obtaining

x = +- sqrt( 2 PE / k),

and substitute our given values of k and PE to get the

result.

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Self-critique (if necessary):

Okay, I worked through this:

PE= 1/2*k*x^2,

25kg*m^2/s^2=1/2*(440kg*m/s^2/m)*x^2,

2*(25kg*m^2/s^2)/(440kg*m/s^2/m)=x^2,

x=+-sqrt(.1136m^2)=x,

x=+-.33m,

Use positive since spring is at zero position before

being pulled.

I thought the distance would be positive but the

solution states:

"" The spring will store 25 J of energy at either the

+.34 m or the -.34 m position. ""

Is this because the pull could be at either end of the

spring?

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@& Whichever direction the spring is displaced, its displacement from equilibrium is in the direction opposite the restoring force, so the work done on the spring by the conservative restoring force is negative.

The work done against the conservative restoring force is positive.

So the change in PE is positive.

The result is PE = 1/2 k x^2, relative to the equilibrium position.

Unless x = 0, this is positive.

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Question: `qgen phy text problem 6.19 88 g arrow 78

cm ave force 110 N, speed?

What did you get for the speed of the arrow?

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Your solution:

Fnet*'ds=110kg*m/s^2*.78m=85.8Joules,

Fnet*'ds=(1/2*m*vf^2)-(1/2*m*v0^2),

85.8kg*m^2/s^2=(1/2*.088kg*vf^2),

(85.8kg*m^2/s^2)/(1/2*.088kg)=vf^2,

+-sqrt(1950m^2/s^2)=vf,

+-44m/s = vf approximate

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Given Solution:

`a** 110 N acting through 78 cm = .78 m does work `dW

= 110 N * .78 m = 86 Joules appxo..

If all this energy goes into the KE of the arrow then

we have a mass of .088 kg with 86 Joules of KE. We

can solve

.5 m v^2 = KE for v, obtaining

| v | = sqrt( 2 * KE / m) = sqrt(2 * 86 Joules / (.088

kg) ) = sqrt( 2000 kg m^2 / s^2 * 1 / kg) = sqrt(2000

m^2 / s^2) = 44 m/s, approx.. **

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Question: `qquery univ phy 6.84 (6.74 10th edition)

bow full draw .75 m, force from 0 to 200 N to 70 N

approx., mostly concave down.

What will be the speed of the .0250 kg arrow as it

leaves the bow?

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Your solution:

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Given Solution:

`a** The work done to pull the bow back is represented

by the area beneath the force vs. displacement curve.

The curve could be approximated by a piecewise

straight line from about 0 to 200 N then back to 70 N.

The area beneath this graph would be about 90 N m or

90 Joules. The curve itself probably encloses a bit

more area than the straight line, so let's estimate

100 Joules (that's probably a little high, but it's a

nice round number).

If all the energy put into the pullback goes into the

arrow then we have a .0250 kg mass with kinetic energy

100 Joules.

Solving KE = .5 m v^2 for v we get v = sqrt(2 KE / m)

= sqrt( 2 * 100 Joules / ( .025 kg) ) = sqrt(8000 m^2

/ s^2) = 89 m/s, approx. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

? I have no idea what was just explained. I get the

KE = .5*m*v^2 but I don't understand how KE was

found. I did not really understand the question the

way it was stated.

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@& Hopefully you have read the problem as it appears in the text.

The work done to draw the bow is estimated from the given graph, with the following justification and result:

Between any two nearby points of the graph of force vs. position, we can form a trapezoid with 'graph altitudes' extending from the points straight down to the x axis, and 'graph width' equal to the distance between the two x axis points. The 'slope segment' at the top of the trapezoid is the line segment between the two graph points.

The average 'graph altitude' is the average of the two 'graph altitudes', i.e., the aveage of the two values of the force.

If the graph points are very close together, the graph of the force function between the points is very nearly a straight line, the average of the 'graph altitudes' is very nearly the same as the average force between the points.

To get the area of the trapezoid you multiply the 'average graph altitude' by the 'graph width'.

The 'graph width' is the change in position, so the product represents average force * change in position, i.e., the work done on that interval.

If you divide the entire graph, from 0 to .75 meter, into a large number of thin trapezoids, then each trapezoid will represent a contribution to the work required to draw the bow. Adding up all these areas will give you the total work required.

So the total work required is represented by the area beneath the graph.

We don't go to the trouble of dividing this region into many small trapezoids. We just approximate the graph with two straight lines, one from the origin to the 'peak' of the graph (where the force is 200 N), the other from the 'peak' to the .75 meter point (where the force is 70 N).

This approximates the graph as a triangle and a trapezoid, of which you need to find the area. The result is about 90 N * m or 90 Joules.

Then look at whether the graph actually tends to lie a little above or a little below the triangle and trapezoid. It's fairly obvious that it lies a little more above than below, so we up our estimate from 90 J to 100 J.

Now assuming the force exerted by the bow to be conservative, when released the bow loses the 100 J of PE that have been stored, and transfers it to the arrow. The arrow will end up with about 100 J of kinetic energy.

Let me know if this helps.

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Question: `qUniv. 6.90 (6.78 10th edition) requires

10-25 watts / kg to fly; 70 g hummingbird 10

flaps/sec, work/wingbeat. Human mass 70 kg, 1.4 kW

short period, sustain 500 watts. Fly by flapping?

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Your solution:

Bird:

m=.07kg,

1 watt= Joule/s = N*m/s = kg*m^2/s^3

((10kg*m^2/s^3)/kg*.07kg)=.07 Joules/s,

(.07Joules/s)/(10flaps/s)=.07Joules per flap

Human:

70kg*10watts/kg=700Joules/s,

(700Joules/s)/(10flaps/s)=70 Joules per flap

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Given Solution:

`a** A 70 gram = .070 kg hummingbird would require

between .070 kg * 10 watts / kg = .7 watts = .7 Joules

/ second in order to fly.

At 10 flaps / second that would be .07 Joules per

wingbeat.

A similar calculation for the 25 watt level shows that

.175 Joules would be required per wingbeat.

A 70 kg human being would similarly require 700 watts

at 10 watts / kg, which would be feasible for short

periods (possibly for several minutes) but not for a

sustained flight. At the 25 watt/kg level flight

would not be feasible. **

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@& Good work overall. That last problem was for University Physics. The problem about the bow and arrow is in your textbook, so be sure you have read the information given there.

Check my notes and let me know if you have questions.