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Question: `qintroductory set 8.

If we know the constant moment of inertia of a

rotating object and the constant net torque on

the object, then how do we determine the angle

through which it will rotate, starting from

rest, in a given time interval?

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Your solution:

tau = torque

Torque in angular dynamics is analogous to

force in linear dynamics.

The greater the Moment of Inertia the more

torque is required to create motion. F=ma.

This problem states that we know tauNet and I

so:

tauNet = I * alpha,

tauNet/I = alpha

Once alpha is found it can be multiplied by the

time interval to find the change in angular

velocity.

angular velocity divided by 2 and multiplied by

the time interval will give you the angle of

rotation in radians.

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Given Solution:

`a** tau stands for torque and I stands for the

moment of inertia. These quantities are

analogous to force and mass.

Just as F = m a, we have tau = I * alpha; i.e.,

torque = moment of inertia * angular

acceleration.

If we know the moment of inertia and the torque

we can find the angular acceleration.

If we multiply angular acceleration by time

interval we get change in angular velocity.

We add the change in angular velocity to the

initial angular velocity to get the final

angular velocity. In this case initial angular

velocity is zero so final angular velocity is

equal to the change in angular velocity.

If we average initial velocity with final

velocity then, if angular accel is constant, we

get average angular velocity. In this case

angular accel is constant and init vel is zero,

so ave angular vel is half of final angular

vel.

When we multiply the average angular velocity

by the time interval we get the angular

displacement, i.e., the angle through which the

object moves. **

STUDENT COMMENT: I believe I am slowly

understanding this.. it is hard to grasp

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: This is completely

analogous to the reasoning we used for motion

along a straight line.

Angular velocity is rate of change of angular

position with respect to clock time.

Angular acceleration is rate of change of

angular velocity with respect to clock time.

So the reasoning for velocities and

accelerations is identical to that used before.

Only the symbols (theta for angular position,

omega for angular velocity, alpha for angular

acceleration) are different.

Torque is different than force, and moment of

inertia is different from mass. However if we

replace force with torque (tau), and mass with

moment of inertia (I), then:

Newton's Second Law F = m a becomes tau = I *

alpha

`dW = F `ds becomes `dW = tau `dTheta and

KE = 1/2 m v^2 becomes KE = 1/2 I omega^2.

It's important to also understand why this

works, but these are the relationships.

If you understand the reasoning and equations

of uniformly accelerated motion, as well as F =

m a, `dW = F `ds, and KE = 1/2 m v^2, then you

need only adapt this understanding to the

rotational situation. Not easy, but manageable

with reasonable effort.

The symbols are a stumbling block for many

students, so keep reminding yourself of what

each symbol you use means. It just takes a

little getting used to.

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Question: `qIf we know the initial angular

velocity of a rotating object, and if we know

its angular velocity after a given time, then

if we also know the net constant torque

accelerating the object, how would we find its

constant moment of inertia?

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Your solution:

Since we know the initial and final angular

velocities and we know the time interval we can

use alpha = 'd_omega / 'dt to find the angular

acceleration.

We also know tauNet so we can use tauNet /

alpha to find the moment of inertia.

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Given Solution:

`a** From init and final angular vel you find

change in angular vel (`d`omega = `omegaf -

`omega0). You can from this and the given time

interval find Angular accel = change in angular

vel / change in clock time.

Then from the known torque and angular

acceleration we find moment of intertia. tau =

I * alpha so I = tau / alpha. **

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Question: `qHow do we find the moment of

inertia of a concentric configuration of 3

uniform hoops, given the mass and radius of

each?

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Your solution:

I=sum(m*r^2),

I=(m1*r1^2)+(m2*r2^2)+(m3*r3^2)

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Given Solution:

`a** Moment of inertia of a hoop is M R^2. We

would get a total of M1 R1^2 + M2 R2^2 + M3

R3^2. **

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Question: `qHow do we find the moment of

inertia a rigid beam of negligible mass to

which are attached 3 masses, each of known mass

and lying at a known distance from the axis of

rotation?

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Your solution:

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Given Solution:

`a** Moment of inertia of a mass r at distance

r is m r^2. We would get a total of m1 r1^2 +

m2 r2^2 + m3 r3^2. Note the similarity to the

expression for the hoops. **

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Question: `qPrinciples of Physics and General

College Physics problem 8.4. Angular

acceleration of blender blades slowing to rest

from 6500 rmp in 3.0 seconds.

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Your solution:

change in velocity divided by the change in

time equals the average acceleration.

'alpha = 'd omega / 'dt

0rpm-6500rpm=-6500rpm

-6500rpm/3s=2166.7rpm/s or 2200 rpm/s.

rotation per minute equals 2*pi radians per 60

seconds or pi/30 rad/s.

2200rpm/s * pi/20 rad/s = 73*pi rad/s^2

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Given Solution:

`aThe change in angular velocity from 6500 rpm

to rest is -6500 rpm. This change occurs in 3.0

sec, so the average rate of change of angular

velocity with respect to clock time is

ave rate = change in angular velocity / change

in clock time = -6500 rpm / (3.0 sec) = -2200

rpm / sec.

This reasoning should be very clear from the

definition of average rate of change.

Symbolically the angular velocity changes from

omega_0 = 6500 rpm to omega_f = 0, so the

change in velocity is

`dOmega = omega_f - omega_0 = 0 - 6500 rpm = -

6500 rpm.

This change occurs in time interval `dt = 3.0

sec.

The average rate of change of angular velocity

with respect to clock time is therefore

ave rate = change in angular vel / change in

clock time

= `dOmega / `dt

= (omega_f - omega_0) / `dt

= (0 - 6500 rpm) / (3 sec)

= -2200 rpm / sec.

The unit rpm / sec is a perfectly valid unit

for rate of change of angular velocity, however

it is not the standard unit. The standard unit

for angular velocity is the radian / second,

and to put the answer into standard units we

must express the change in angular velocity in

radians / second.

Since 1 revolution corresponds to an angular

displacement of 2 pi radians, and since 60

seconds = 1 minute, it follows that

1 rpm = 1 revolution / minute = 2 pi radians /

60 second = pi/30 rad / sec.

Thus our conversion factor between rpm and

rad/sec is (pi/30 rad / sec) / (rpm) and our

2200 rpm / sec becomes

angular acceleration = 2200 rpm / sec * (pi/30

rad / sec) / rpm = (2200 pi / 30) rad / sec^2 =

73 pi rad / sec^2, or about 210 rad / sec^2.

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Question: `qPrinciples of Physics and General

College Physics problem 8.16. Automobile engine

slows from 4500 rpm to 1200 rpm in 2.5 sec.

Assuming constant angular acceleration, what is

the angular acceleration and how how many

revolutions does the engine make in this time?

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Your solution:

'alpha = 'd omega / 'dt

alpha = (1200rpm-4500rpm)/2.5s,

alpha = -1320 rpm/s

-1320rpm/s * pi/30 rad/s = -44*pi rad/s = alpha

How many revolutions?

(4500rpm+1200rpm)/2=2850 rpm average,

2850 rev/min * 1rev/60s = 47.5 rev/sec,

47.5 rev/s * 2.5 sec = 118.75 rev or 120

revolutions.

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Given Solution:

`aThe change in angular velocity is -3300 rpm,

which occurs in 2.5 sec. So the angular

acceleration is

angular accel = rate of change of angular vel

with respect to clock time = -3300 rpm / (2.5

sec) = 1300 rpm / sec.

Converting to radians / sec this is about

angular accel = -1300 rpm / sec ( pi / 30

rad/sec) / rpm = 43 pi rad/sec^2, approx..

Since angular acceleration is assumed constant,

a graph of angular velocity vs. clock time will

be linear so that the average angular velocity

with be the average of the initial and final

angular velocities:

ave angular velocity = (4500 rpm + 1200 rpm) /

2 = 2750 rpm, or 47.5 rev / sec.

so that the angular displacement is

angular displacement = ave angular velocity *

time interval = 47.5 rev/s * 2.5 sec = 120

revolutions, approximately.

In symbols, using the equations of uniformly

accelerated motion, we could use the first

equation

`dTheta = (omega_0 + omega_f) / 2 * `dt = (75

rev / s + 20 rev / s) / 2 * (2.5 sec) = 120

revolutions, approx..

and the second equation

omega_f = omega_0 + alpha * `dt, which is

solved for alpha to get

alpha = (omega_f - omega_0) / `dt = (75 rev/s -

20 rev/s ) / (2.5 sec) = 22 rev / sec^2,

which as before can be converted to about 43 pi

rad/sec^2, or about 130 rad/sec^2.

The angular displacement of 120 revolutions can

also be expressed in radians as

120 rev = 120 rev (2 pi rad / rev) = 240 pi

rad, or about 750 radians.

STUDENT COMMENT

I didn’t know I was supposed to express my

answer in radians.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Revolutions and radians both express rotation

and it's easy to convert one to the other.

However in situations that involve the

trigonometry you want your angles to be in

radians, as you will if you want to relate

motion along the arc to the angular motion.

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120 revolutions = 120*(2*pi)rad=240*pi radians.

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Question: `qgen Problem 8.23: A 55 N force is

applied to the side furthest from the hinges,

on a door 74 cm wide. The force is applied at

an angle of 45 degrees from the face of the

door.

Give your solution:

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Your solution:

Fy=55N*sin(45)=38.9N = 39N approx.

Fx=55N*cos(45)=38.9N = 39N approx.

Moment about the hinge will consider the force

being applied in the y-axis only. The force in

x is an axial force and does not create a

moment.

39N*.74m = 29N*m approx.

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Given Solution:

`a** ** If a 55 N force is exerted

perpendicular to the face of the door at a

point 74 cm from the hinges, the torque on the

door would be 55 N * .74 m = 40.7 m N.

However the force is not exerted perpendicular

to the door, but at a 45 degree angle with the

door. The components of this force parallel

and perpendicular to the door are therefore 55

N * cos(45 deg) = 30 N and 55 N * sin(45 deg) =

30 N, approx.. The component parallel to the

door face pulls on the hinges but doesn't tend

to make the door swing one way or the other;

this component does not contribute to the

torque. The component perpendicular to the

door face is the one that tends to induce

rotation about the hinges, so the torque is

exerted by this component. The torque is

torque = perpendicular component of force *

moment arm = 55 N * sin(45 deg) * .74 meters =

30 m * N, approx..

STUDENT COMMENT: Looks like I should have used

the sin of the angle instead of the cosine. I

was a little confused at which one to use. I

had trouble visualizing the x and y coordinates

in this situation.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: You are referring to the

problem from the previous edition of the text,

in which the force made a 60 degree angle with

the door.

You can let either axis correspond to the plane

of the door, but since the given angle is with

the door and angles are measured from the x

axis the natural choice would be to let the x

axis be in the plane of the door. The force is

therefore at 60 degrees to the x axis. We want

the force component perpendicular to the door.

The y direction is perpendicular to the door.

So we use the sine of the 60 degree angle.

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Question: `qgen problem 8.11 rpm of centrifuge

if a particle 7 cm from the axis of rotation

experiences 100,000 g's

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Your solution:

aCent=v^2/r

9.8*10^5 m/s^2 = v^2/.07m

+-sqrt((9.8*10^5 m/s^2)*.07m) = v

260m/s = angular velocity

Circumference = 2*pi*r = 2*pi*.07m= .43m approx

(260m/s)/.43m = 604 revolutions per second.

604 revs/s * 60s/1minute = 36000 rpm approx.

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Given Solution:

`a** alpha = v^2 / r so v = `sqrt( alpha * r )

= `sqrt( 100,000 * 9.8 m/s^2 * .07 m) = `sqrt(

69,000 m^2 / s^2 ) = 260 m/s approx.

Circumference of the circle is 2 `pi r = 2 `pi

* .07 m = .43 m.

260 m/s / ( .43 m / rev) = 600 rev / sec.

600 rev / sec * ( 60 sec / min) = 36000 rev /

min or 36000 rpm.

All calculations are approximate. **

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gen problem 8.20 small wheel rad 2 cm in

contact with 25 cm wheel, no slipping, small

wheel accel at 7.2 rad/s^2.

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Question: `qWhat is the angular acceleration of

the larger wheel?

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Your solution:

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Given Solution:

`a** Since both wheels travel the same

distances at the rim, angular displacements

(which are equal to distance along the rim

divided by radii) will be in inverse proportion

to the radii. It follows that angular

velocities and angular accelerations will also

be in inverse proportion to radii.

The angular acceleration of the second wheel

will therefore be 2/25 that of the first, or

2/25 * 7.2 rad/s^2 = .58 rad/s^2 approx.. **

STUDENT QUESTION

I really struggled with these questions. I’ve

studied your answers but am still not certain.

Why would it be an

inverse relationship between the 2 wheels?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

If the rims of two wheels, one with twice the

diameter as the other, are traveling at

identical speeds, then

since the circumference of the larger is doulbe

that of the smaller, the smaller wheel rotates

through two revolutions

while the larger rotates through only one. The

reason is that when a wheel travels through a

revolution, its rim

moves a distance equal to the circumference.

When the first wheel rotates through a

revolution its rim travels a

distance equal to its circumference, so the rim

of the smaller wheel travels the same distance,

which is twice its

circumference, to that it travels through two

revolutions.

The larger wheel is 2 times the diameter of the

smaller, but it travels through 1/2 as many

revolutions.

The wheel with lesser radius travels through

more revolutions. So lesser radius implies

greater angular velocity. In this case the

angular velocity is inversely proportional to

the radius.

If the radii of the two wheels are r1 and r2,

then the circumference of the second is r2 / r1

times that of the first (the actual ratio is 2

pi r2 / (2 pi r1), but that reduces to r2 /

r1). If the second wheel travels through a

revolution, the second travels through r2 / r1

times as many revolutions. So the first wheel

travels through r2 / r1 times the angle in a

give time interval. It follows that omega1 = r2

/ r1 * omega 2, so that

omega1 / omega2 = r2 / r1,

an inverse proportion.

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This makes sense to me. I put way too much

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Question: `qHow long does it take the larger

wheel to reach 65 rpm?

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Your solution:

7.2rad/s^2 * 2/25 = .58 rad/s^2

65rpm * 2*pi rad = 130*pi rad / 60 sec =

2.17*pi rad/s,

2.17*pi rad/s / .58 rad/s^2 = 11.7s approx

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Given Solution:

`a** 65 rpm is 65 * 2 `pi rad / min = 65 * 2

`pi rad / (60 sec) = 6.8 rad / sec, approx.

At about .6 rad/s/s we get `dt = (change in ang

vel) / (ang accel) = 6.8 rad / s / ( .6 rad /

s^2) = 11 sec or so. **

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Question: `qUniv. 9.72 (64 in 10th edition).

motor 3450 rpm, saw shaft 1/2 diam of motor

shaft, blade diam .208 m, block shot off at

speed of rim. How fast and what is centrip

accel of pt on rim?

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Given Solution:

`a** The angular velocity of the shaft driving

the blade is double that of the motor, or 3450

rpm * 2 = 7900 rpm.

Angular velocity is 7900 rpm = 7900 * 2 pi rad

/ 60 sec = 230 pi rad / sec.

The rim of the blade is half the .208 m

diameter, or .104 m, from the axis.

At a distance of .104 m from the axis of

rotation the velocity will be

.104 m * 230 pi rad / sec = 75 m/s, approx..

The centripetal acceleration at the .104 m

distance is

a_cent = v^2 / r = (75 m/s)^2 / (.104 m) = 54

000 m/s^2, approx..

The electrostatic force of attraction between

sawdust and blade is nowhere near sufficient to

provide this much acceleration. **

STUDENT QUESTION:

Since you're multiplying meters * rad/s, you

should get rad*m / s. But we end up with just

meters/second. How did this happen?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

A radian is the angle for which the arc

distance is equal to the radius.

So when a unit of radius is multiplied by the

number of radians, you get units of arc

distance. That is, in this context a radian

multiplied by a meter is a meter.

STUDENT COMMENT

I don’t see how some of the numbers were

calculated I get different values when I

plugged in those numbers.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Remember that all my arithmetic is done by

mental approximation and isn't guaranteed,

though it should usually be closer than it was

on this problem. I made a poor approximation of

the angular velocity in rad / s, more that 10%

low. That was compounded when the quantity was

effectively squared, so the final solution was

more than 20% low.

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