Assignment 17-18 Query

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assignment #017

017. `query 7

Physics II

03-14-2007

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12:28:24

Query set 5 problems 16-20

explain how we calculate the average force exerted by a particle of mass m moving at speed v which collides at a time interval `dt elastically and at a right angle with a solid wall

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When the particles collide with the wall the change in velocity is 2* the velocity, because they are considered elastic,The momentum change is found by the total mass * the velocity change. Once we have the momentum change we can determine the average force by dividing the momentum change by the time interval.

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12:29:32

** The impulse exerted on a particle in a collision is the change in the momentum of that particle during a collision.

The impulse-momentum theorem says that the change in momentum in a collision is equal to the impulse, the average force * the time interval between collisions.

The average force is thus change in momentum / time interval; the time interval is the round-trip distance divided by the velocity, or 2L / v so the average force is -2 m v / ( 2L / v) = m v^2 / L

If there were N such particles the total average force would be N * m v^2 / L

If the directions are random we distribute the force equally over the 3 dimensions of space and for one direction we get get 1/3 the force found above, or 1/3 N * m v^2 / L.

This 3-way distribution of force is related to the fact that for the average velocity vector we have v^2 = vx^2 + vy^2 + vz^2, where v is average magnitude of velocity and vx, vy and vz the x, y and z components of the velocity (more specifically the rms averages--the square root of the average of the squared components). **

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It looks like I may have left a few steps out , but I understand what they are.

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12:33:20

Summarize the relationship between the thermal energy that goes into the system during a cycle, the work done by the system during a cycle, and the thermal energy removed or dissipated during the cycle.

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The work done by the energy in, is always less than the energy in, due to energy dissapated through the cycle. The thermal energy removed during the cycle is a measure of the effeciency of the system.

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12:34:05

** Work-energy is conserved within an isolated system. So the thermal energy that goes into the system must equal the total of the work done by the system and the thermal energy removed from the system. What goes in must come out, either in the form of work or thermal energy. **

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I think I was close with this one. I just have different wording.

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12:36:28

If you know the work done by a thermodynamic system during a cycle and the thermal energy removed or dissipated during the cycle, how would you calculate the efficiency of the cycle?

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You can add the work and the dissipated energy and find the total energy. Then you can find the effeciency by dividing the work done by the total energy into the system.

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12:36:39

** STUDENT SOLUTION: Efficiency is work done / energy input. Add the amount thermal energy removed to the amount of work done to get the input. Then, divide work by the energy input. **

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12:43:25

prin phy and gen phy problem 15.2, cylinder with light frictionless piston atm pressure, 1400 kcal added, volume increases slowly from 12.0 m^3 to 18.2 m^3. Find work and chagne in internal energy.

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I have the old version of the book, that one is not in mine.

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12:51:11

Work done at constant pressure is P `dV, so the work done in this situation is

`dW = P `dV = 1 atm * (18.2 m^3 - 12 m^3) = (101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2) * (6.2 m^3) = 630 * 10^3 N * m = 6.3 * 10^5 J.

A total of 1400 kcal = 1400 * 4200 J = 5.9 * 10^6 J of thermal energy is added to the system, the change in internal energy is

`dU = `dQ - `dW = 5.9*10^6 J - 6.3 * 10^5 J = 5.9 * 10^6 J - .63 * 10^6 J = 5.3 * 10^6 J.

It is worth thinking about the P vs. V graph of this process. The pressure P remains constant at 101.3 * 10^3 J as the volume changes from 12 m^3 to 18.2 m^3, so the graph will be a straight line segment from the point (12 m^3, 101.3 * 10^3 Pa) to the point (18.2 m^3, 101.3 * 10^3 Pa). This line segment is horizontaland the region above the horizontal axis and beneath the segment is a rectangle whose width is 6.2 * 10^3 m^3 and whose altitude is 101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2; its area is therefore the product of its altitude and width, which is 6.3 * 10^5 N m, or 6.3 * 10^5 J, the same as the word we calculated above.

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I followed along with the mathematical process, but I lost you on the graph.

You generally need to sketch the graph to understand the explanation of the graph. If you sketched it, give me a short description and let me know specifically what you do and do not understand about the given solution. On the graph P will be represented by the vertical axis, V by the horizontal. Start by plotting that first point (12 m^3, 101.3 * 10^3 Pa). One thing that might have thrown you off is that I had the pressures labeled in J, not Pa; I changed the labeling, so hopefully it will make more sense now.

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13:02:30

prin phy and gen phy problem 15.5, 1.0 L at 4.5 atm isothermally expanded until pressure is 1 atm then compressed at const pressure to init volume, final heated to return to original volume. Sketch and label graph.

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I'm not sure how to go about this.

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13:06:05

When a confined ideal gas is expanded isothermally its pressure and volume change, while the number of moled and the temperature remain constant. Since PV = n R T, it follows that P V remains constant.

In the initial state P = 4.5 atm and V = 1 liter, so P V = 4.5 atm * 1 liter = 4.5 atm * liter (this could be expressed in standard units since 1 atm = 101.3 kPa = 101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2 and 1 liters = .001 m^3, but it's more convenient to first sketch and label the graph in units of atm and liters). During the isothermal expansion, therefore, since P V remains constant we have

P V = 4.5 atm liters. At a pressure of 1 atm, therefore, the volume will be V = 4.5 atm liter / P = 4.5 atm liter / (1 atm) = 4.5 liters.

The graph follows a curved path from (1 liter, 4.5 atm) to (4.5 liters, 1 atm).

PV remains constant.

At the initial point P V = 4.5 atm * liters.

So when pressure is 1 atm, V = 4.5 atm * liters / P = 4.5 atm liters / (1 atm) = 4.5 liters.

The P vs. V point is now (4.5 liters, 1 atm).

From the first P vs. V point to the second the graph follows a smooth curve.

At the gas is compressed at constant pressure back to its initial 1 liter volume, the pressure remains constant so the graph follows a horizontal line from (4.5liters, 1 atm) to (1 liter, 1 atm). Note that this compression is accomplished by cooling the gas, or allowing it to cool.

Finally the gas is heated at constant volume until its pressure returns to 4.5 atm. The constant volume dictates that the graph follow a vertical line from (1 liter, 1 atm) back to (4.5 liters, 1 atm).

The graph could easily be relabeled to usestandard metric units.

1 atm = 101.3 kPa = 101.3 * 10^3 Pa = 101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2, so

4.5 atm = 4.5 * 101.3 * 10^3 Pa = 4.6 * 10^3 Pa = 4.6 * 10^3 N/m^2.

1 liter = .001 m^3 so 4.5 liters = 4.5 m^3.

Since P V = 4.5 atm liters, P = 4.5 atm liters / V. This is of the form P = c / V, with c a constant. For positive values of V, this curve descendsfrom a vertical asymptote with the vertical axis (the V axis) through the point (1, c) then approaches a horizontal asymptote with the horizontal axis. For c = 4.5 atm liters, the curve therefore passes through the point (1 liter, 4.5 atm). As we have seen it also passes through (4.5 liters, 1 atm).

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for some reason I'm just not getting this.

I've inserted a few notes on the first part; let me know what you do and do not understand and we can pursue this further.

Assignment 18 Query

assignment #018

018. `query 8

Physics II

03-15-2007

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12:32:26

prin phy and gen phy problem 15.19 What is the maximum efficiency of a heat engine operating between temperatures of 380 C and 580 C?

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Change temps to K degrees

380+273=653, 580+273=853

(th-tl)/th=effeciency

(853-653)/853=.2345

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12:32:59

The maximum possible efficiency is (T_h - T_c) / T_h, where T_h and T_c are the absolute max and min operating temperatures.

T_h is (580 + 273)K = 853 K and T_c is (380 + 273) K = 653 K, so the maximum theoretical efficiency is

max efficiency = (T_h - T_c) / T_h = (853 K - 653 K) / (853 K) = .23, approx.

This means that the work done by this engine will be not greater than about 23% of the thermal energy that goes into it.

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12:48:12

query gen phy problem 15.26 source 550 C -> Carnot eff. 28%; source temp for Carnot eff. 35%?

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change temp to K degrees

550+273=823K

(th-tl)/th=effeciency

so (823-tl)/823=.28

solvinh for tl we get 592.56K

for effecincy of 35%

(823-tl)/823=.35

solving for tl we get 534.95

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12:50:09

** Carnot efficiency is eff = (Th - Tc) / Th.

Solving this for Tc we multiply both sides by Th to get

eff * Th = Th - Tc so that

Tc = Th - eff * Th = Th ( 1 - eff).

We note that all temperatures must be absolute so we need to work with the Kelvin scale (adding 273 C to the Celsius temperature to get the Kelvin temperature)

If Th = 550 C = 823 K and efficiency is 30% then we have

Tc =823 K * ( 1 - .28) = 592 K.

Now we want Carnot efficiency to be 35% for this Tc. We solve eff = (Th - Tc) / Th for Th:

Tc we multiply both sides by Th to get

eff * Th = Th - Tc so that

eff * Th - Th = -Tc and

Tc = Th - eff * Th or

Tc = Th ( 1 - eff) and

Th = Tc / (1 - eff).

If Tc = 576 K and eff = .35 we get

Th = 592 K / ( 1 - .35 ) = 592 C / .6 = 912 K, approx.

This is (912 - 273) C = 639 C. **

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I guess I misunderstood the second part of the question, I solved it for the same th, but a 35% effecincy

I think the idea here is that if you have Tc of 592 K, you want to know what Th is necessary to get 35%.

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Good work. See my note, and let me know if you have questions.