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004. Dice, trees, committees, number of subsets.

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Question: `q001. Note that there are 11 questions in this assignment.

In how many ways can we get a total of 9 when rolling two fair dice?

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Your solution:

3, 6

6, 3

4, 5

5, 4

So, there are 4 ways we can get a total of 9 when rolling two fair dice.

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Given Solution:

There are two dice. Call one the 'first die' and the other the 'second die'. (Note that ‘die’ is the singular of ‘dice’).

It is possible for the first die to come up 3 and the second to come up 6.

It is possible for the first die to come up 4 and the second to come up 5.

It is possible for the first die to come up 5 and the second to come up 4.

It is possible for the first die to come up 6 and the second to come up 3.

These are the only possible ways to get a total of 9. Thus there are 4 ways.

We can represent these 4 ways as ordered pairs: (3,6), (4, 5), (5, 4), (6, 3).

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Question:

`q002. In how many ways can we choose a committee of three people from a set of five people?

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Your solution:

C (5, 3) = 5!/ [(3!)(5-3)!] = 5!/[(3!)(2)!] = (5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)/ [(3 * 2 * 1)(2 * 1)] = (5 * 4)/ (2 * 1) = 20/2 = 10

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Given Solution:

A committee when first chosen is understood to consist of equal individuals. The committee is therefore unordered. In choosing a committee of three people from a set of five people we are forming a combination of 3 people from among 5 candidates.

The number of such combinations is

C ( 5, 3) = 5 ! / [ 3 ! ( 5 - 3) ! ] = 5 ! / [ 3 ! * 2 ! ] =

5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 / [ ( 3 * 2 * 1 ) * ( 2 * 1) ] =

5 * 4 / ( 2 * 1)

= 5 * 2

= 10.

STUDENT COMMENT:

I really need to get this formula down!!! When are we supposed to use each formula??

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Combinations when order doesn't matter; permutations when it does. There's more, and your book states all the conditions.

There are 10 possible 3-member committees within a group of 5 individuals.

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Self-critique (if necessary):OK

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Question:

`q003. In how many ways can we choose a president, a secretary and a treasurer from a group of 10 people?

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Your solution:

P (10, 3) = 10!/ (10-3)! = 10!/ 7! = (10 * 9 * 8 * 7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)/ (7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)

= 10 * 9 * 8 = 720

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Given Solution:

This choice is ordered. The order of our choice determines who becomes president, who becomes secretary and who becomes treasurer.

Since we are choosing three people from 10, and order matters, we are looking for the number of permutations of three objects chosen from 10. This number is

P(10, 3) = 10! / (10-3)! = 10! / 7! = 10 * 9 * 8 = 720.

STUDENT COMMENT: I am so lost on the formulas, I have no clue which one to use where. These last two questions looked just a like to me.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: Between these two problems, order matters on one, it doesn't matter on the other.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Self-critique Rating: OK

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Question:

`q004. In how many ways can we arrange six people in a line?

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Your solution:

6 options for first in line, 5 options for second, 4 options for third, 3 options for fourth, 2 options for fifth,

and 1 option for sixth in line. So, 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 720 options

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Given Solution:

There are 6 ! = 720 possible orders in which to arrange six people.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK, I like the ease of using factorial to write the value, but have to use the verbal

reasoning

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Self-critique Rating: OK

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Question:

`q005. In how many ways can we rearrange the letters in the word 'formed'?

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Your solution:

6 options for first letter, 5 options for second, 4 options for third, 3 options for fourth, 2 options for fifth,

and 1 option for sixth letter. So, 6! = 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 720 options

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Given Solution:

There are six distinct letters in the word 'formed'. Thus we can rearrange the letters in 6 ! = 720 different ways.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Self-critique Rating: OK

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Question:

`q006. In how many ways can we rearrange the letters in the word 'activities'?

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Your solution:

There are 7! ways to rearrange the letters in the word activities. This is because there are only 7 different letters in

the word 'activities'. So, 7! = 5040

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Given Solution:

There are 10 letters in the word 'activities', but some of them are repeated. There are two t's and three i's.

If we think of these 10 letters as being placed on letter tiles, there are 10! ways to rearrange the tiles.

However, not all of these 10 ! ways spell different words.

For any spelling the three 'i' tiles can be arranged in 3 ! = 6 different ways, all of which spell same word.

And for any spelling the two 't' tiles can be arranged in 2 ! = 2 different ways.

We must thus divide the 10! ways to arrange the ten tiles by the 3! ways in which the three i tiles might be ordered, and then divide this result by the 2! ways in which the three t tiles might be ordered, leading to the conclusion that

10 ! / ( 3 ! * 2 !)

different ‘words’ are possible..

STUDENT COMMENT:

I didn’t think about this because no where did it say the tiles cannot be repeated.

And it really doesn’t say the new arrangement needs to make a new word

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The example invokes 10 tiles. Any rearrangement of the 10 tiles forms a word, though most don't form a word in any known language.

If the 10 tiles all contain different letters, then every different rearrangment of the tiles forms a different word, and the number of possible words is equal to the number of possible reorderings of the tiles.

If two or more of the tiles contain the same letter, then a different ordering of the tiles doesn't necessarily form a different word.

In this example there are three i's, on three different tiles. If you switch two of those tiles, then you have a different arrangement of the actual tiles but the word remains the same. So there are more arrangements of tiles than there are different words.

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Self-critique (if necessary): Clearly, I was correct in not feeling very confident in my solution. I did understand that the calculation must

change because of the repeated letters, however, my method of doing so was incorrect. In summary, the 10! is from the ten letters in the word activities, but

to eliminate the repeats we divide by the 3! because of the 3 i's and by 2! because of the 2 t's. We must divide the repeats because we multiply to get our original total.

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Question:

`q007. In how many ways can we line up four people, chosen from a group of 10, for a photograph?

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Your solution:

Order matters so this is a permutation.

P (10, 4) = 10! / (10-4)! = 10!/ 6! = (10 * 9 * 8 * 7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)/ (6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)

= 10 * 9 * 8 * 7

= 5040

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Given Solution:

We are arranging four people chosen from 10, in order.

The number of possible arrangements is therefore

P ( 10, 4) = 10! / ( 10-4)! = 10 ! / 6 ! = 10 * 9 * 8 * 7.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Self-critique Rating: OK

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Question:

`q008. In how many ways can we get a total greater than 3 when rolling two fair dice?

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Your solution:

1, 3

3, 1

1, 4

4, 1

1, 5

5, 1

1, 6

6, 1

2, 2

2, 3

3, 2

2, 4

4, 2

2, 5

5, 2

2, 6

6, 2

3, 3

3, 4

4, 3

3, 5

5, 3

3, 6

6, 3

4, 4

4, 5

5, 4

4, 6

6, 4

5, 5

5, 6

6, 5

6, 6

So, there are 33 ways to roll greater than 3

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Given Solution:

It would not be difficult to determine the number of ways to get totals of 4, 5, 6, etc. However it is easier to see that there is only one way to get a total of 2, which is to get 1 on both dice; and that there are 2 ways to get a total of 3 (we can get 1 on the first die and 2 on the second, or vice versa).

So there are 3 ways to get a total of 3 or less when rolling two dice.

Since there are 6 possible outcomes for the first die and 6 possible outcomes for the second, there are 6 * 6 = 36 possible outcomes for the two dice.

Of the 36 total possible outcomes, we just saw that 3 give a total of 3 or less, so there must be 36 - 3 = 33 ways to get more than 3.

STUDENT QUESTION

First you said there are two ways to get three (we can get 1 on the first die and 2 on the second, or vice versa). Then you

say in the bullet there is three ways. Which one is it?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

There are two ways to get a total of 3.

There are three ways to get a total of 3 or less.

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Self-critique (if necessary): That explanation of taking the total options and working to take away the exceptions is much more efficient than the method I used in creating a list.

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Question: `q009. A committee consists of 5 men and 7 women. In how many ways can a subcommittee of 4 be chosen if the number of men and women must be equal?

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Your solution:

C( 5, 2) = 5!/ (2! * 3!) = (5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)/ (2 * 1 * 3 * 2 * 1) = (5 * 4) / (2 * 1) = 20/2 = 10

C( 7, 2) = 7!/ (2! * 5!) = (7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1)/ (2 * 1 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1) = (7 * 6) / (2 * 1) = 42/2 = 21

C( 5, 2) * C( 7, 2) = 10 * 21 = 210

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Given Solution:

If the numbers of women and men are equal, then there must be 2 of each. Recall that a committee is regarded as unordered.

If order doesn't matter there are C(5, 2) ways to choose 2 men out of 5, and C(7, 2) ways to choose 2 women out of 7.

We have to choose 2 men AND we have to choose 2 women, so by the Fundamental Counting Principal there are

C(5, 2) * C(7, 2) = 10 * 21 = 210

possible subcommittees.

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Question: `q010. In how many ways can we get a total of 10 or more when rolling two dice?

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Your solution:

4, 6

6, 4

5, 5

5, 6

6, 5

6, 6

There are 6 ways we can get a total of 10 or more when rolling two dice.

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Question: `q011. In choosing 5 balls, without replacement, from 15 numbered balls, in how many ways can we obtain a collection of balls that includes three single-digit numbers and two double-digit numbers?

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Your solution:

In the numbered balls, 1-15, 9 of the balls are single digits and 6 of the balls are double digits. We will use a combination because order of selecting the balls is not necessary.

So, to choose 3 single-digit numbers we have C(9, 3) = 9!/(3! * 6!) = 84

So, to choose 2 double-digit numbers we have C(6, 2) = 6!/ (2! * 4!) = 15

C(9, 3) * C(6, 2) = 84 * 15 = 1260 ways to obtain a collection of balls that includes three single-digit numbers and two double-digit numbers

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