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If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions at

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Your solution, attempt at solution. If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it. This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

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Question: `qNote that there are 7 questions in this assignment.

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Question: `q001. If the water and a certain cylinder is changing depth at a rate of -4 cm/sec at the t = 20 second instant, at which instant the depth is 80 cm, then approximately what do you expect the depth will be at the t = 21 second instant?

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Your solution:

At t=21 sec I expect the depth to be 76 cm because the change depth rate is -4 cm/sec.

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Given Solution:

`aAt a rate of -4 cm/s, for the 1-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 21 s the change in depth would be -4 cm/s * 1 sec = -4 cm. If the depth was 80 cm at t = 20 sec, the depth at t = 21 sec would be 80 cm - 4 cm/ = 76 cm.

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Question: `q002. Using the same information, what the you expect the depth will be depth at the t = 30 sec instant? Do you think this estimate is more or less accurate than the estimate you made for the t = 21 second instant?

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Your solution:

I expect the depth at 30 sec to be 40 cm. I think this estimate is less accurate because the smaller the time interval the more precise the instantaneous rate estimate is.

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Given Solution:

`aAt - 4 cm/s, during the 10-second interval between t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec we would expect a depth change of -4 cm/sec * 10 sec = -40 cm, which would result in a t = 30 sec depth of 80 cm - 40 cm = 40 cm.

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I work mine out on paper and just subtracted 4 from the original depth at the starting time 10 times. I do understand how you worked this out and how it is a lot easier this way.

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Question: `q003. If you know that the depth in the preceding example is changing at the rate of -3 cm/s at the t = 30 sec instant, how will this change your estimate for the depth at t = 30 seconds--i.e., will your estimate be the same as before, will you estimate a greater change in depth or a lesser change in depth?

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Your solution:

My estimate will not be the same. The estimate will be a lesser change in depth because the rate of change is -3 cm/ sec instead of -4 cm/ sec.

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Given Solution:

`aSince the rate of depth change has changed from -4 cm / s at t = 20 s to -3 cm / s at t = 30 s, we conclude that the depth probably wouldn't change as much has before.

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Question: `q004. What is your specific estimate of the depth at t = 30 seconds?

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Your solution:

-3 cm/sec * 10 sec = -30 cm/sec^2

80 - 30 = 70 cm

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Given Solution:

`aKnowing that at t = 20 sec the rate is -4 cm/s, and at t = 30 sec the rate is -3 cm/s, we could reasonably conjecture that the approximate average rate of change between these to clock times must be about -3.5 cm/s. Over the 10-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 30 s, this would result in a depth change of -3.5 cm/s * 10 sec = -35 cm, and a t = 30 s depth of 80 cm - 35 cm = 45 cm.

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I understand how you got the - 3.5 cm/s by finding the average of -4 and -3. This is where I went wrong in finding my answer.

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Question: `q005. If we have a uniform cylinder with a uniformly sized hole from which water is leaking, so that the quadratic model is very nearly a precise model of what actually happens, then the prediction that the depth will change and average rate of -3.5 cm/sec is accurate. This is because the rate at which the water depth changes will in this case be a linear function of clock time, and the average value of a linear function between two clock times must be equal to the average of its values at those to clock times.

If y is the function that tells us the depth of the water as a function of clock time, then we let y ' stand for the function that tells us the rate at which depth changes as a function of clock time.

If the rate at which depth changes is accurately modeled by the linear function y ' = .1 t - 6, with t in sec and y in cm/s, verify that the rates at t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec are indeed -4 cm/s and -3 cm/s.

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Your solution:

Y’= .1(20) -6= -4 cm/sec

Y’ = .1(30) -6 = -3 cm/sec

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Given Solution:

`aAt t = 20 sec, we evaluate y ' to obtain y ' = .1 ( 20 sec) - 6 = 2 - 6 = -4, representing -4 cm/s.

At t = 30 sec, we evaluate y' to obtain y' = .1 ( 30 sec) - 6 = 3 - 6 = -3, representing -3 cm/s.

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Question: `q006. For the rate function y ' = .1 t - 6, at what clock time does the rate of depth change first equal zero?

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Your solution:

0 = .1t - 6

6 = .1t

6/.1 = .1t/.1

T = 60 sec

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Given Solution:

`aThe rate of depth change is first equal to zero when y ' = .1 t - 6 = 0. This equation is easily solved to see that t = 60 sec.

STUDENT COMMENT

This was pretty straight forward, I could look at it and figure out the time to find zero, but if the times were not spaced

out by ten second intervals the finding of zero would be hard to do.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

If you write down the equation and solve it, it works out easily enough.

For example if the equation was .07 t - 12 = 0, you would add 12 to both sides then divide by .07 to get t = 12 / .07, which is approximately 170.

Of course if the equation is more difficult (e.g an equation like .02 t^2 + 4.2 t^2 - t + 9 = 0) it gets harder to solve for t, and it doesn't take much to come up the an equation that's impossible to solve. But the linear equation of this problem wouldn't be difficult.

You will in any case be expected to be able to solve linear and quadratic equations.

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Question: `q007. How much depth change is there between t = 20 sec and the time at which depth stops changing?

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Your solution:

Y’ = .1 (20) - 6

Y’ = 2-6

Y’ = -4 cm/s

At time 20 sec the depth change is -4 and at time 60 sec the depth change is 0.

The average depth change between the 2 points: -4 cm/sec + 0 cm/sec / 2 = -2 cm/sec

There is an average depth change of - 2 cm/sec over the 40 sec time interval of 60 cm - 20 cm = 40 sec

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Given Solution:

`aThe rate of depth change at t = 20 sec is - 4 cm/s; at t = 60 sec the rate is 0 cm/s. The average rate at which depth changes during this 40-second interval is therefore the average of -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, or -2 cm/s.

At an average rate of -2 cm/s for 40 s, the depth change will be -80 cm. Starting at 80 cm when t = 20 sec, we see that the depth at t = 60 is therefore 80 cm - 80 cm = 0.

STUDENT QUESTION

I dont totally understand where the 2 cm/s comes from.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, calculated from the given rate function, are applicable to the interval between t = 20 sec and t = 60 sec.

The first is the rate at the beginning of the interval, and the second is the rate at the end of the interval.

Without additional information, our first conjecture would be that the average rate is the average of the initial and final rates. For different situations this conjecture might be more or less valid; in this case since the rate function is linear, it turns out that it is completely valid.

The average of the two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s is -2 cm/s, and this is the rate we apply to our analysis of this interval.

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I don’t understand why at the end you subtracted 80 -80 when I thought we found that the depth stopped change at t = 60 sec, not t = 80 sec.

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I don’t understand why at the end you subtracted 80 -80 when I thought we found that the depth stopped change at t = 60 sec, not t = 80 sec.

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