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Week 1 Q&AIf your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions at

 

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Your solution, attempt at solution.  If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it.  This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

 

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We begin with the idea of constructing graphs from just a few points.  In this exercise we will be concerned with parabolas.  The first topic in this course will be functions with parabolic graphs.  This exercise will then continue with the process of solving a system of two simultaneous linear equations.  You will very soon see how the two topics are connected.

Below are three dots, representing three points, with a certain symmetry

The symmetry condition is this:

Two of the points are at the same 'height' on the page, and the third is at equal distances from these two points.

Any time we have three dots with this condition of symmetry, we can easily sketch a parabola through them:

The three points below have the same condition of symmetry, but the distance of the third dot from the other two is greater.

If we sketch the parabola corresponding to these points, it will be narrower that the previous parabola:

 

The three points below satisfy the same symmetry condition.  The third point is still equidistant from the other two, but in this case the equidistant point lies 'above' the other two.

The resulting parabola opens downward:

In the figure below copies of these three parabolas are shown at different locations in the xy plane.  The three 'basic points' of one of these parabolas are shown. 

The coordinates of the three 'basic points' shown in the figure above are (1, 3), (2, 1) and (3, 3).

The vertex of a parabola is its highest or lowest point, corresponding to the 'equidistant point' in our three-basic-point scheme.

We will define the 'three basic point' scheme for parabolas as follows:

One of the points is the vertex.

The other two points line along the same horizontal line (that is, they have the same y coordinate) and they are 2 units apart (as measured on the scale of the x axis).

Question `q001:  What is the vertex of each of the other two parabolas depicted above?

 

 

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Your Solution:

The other upward facing parabola that is colored blue has a vertex that lies on the point (2,-1). The downward facing parabola has a vertex that lies on the point (-2,3).

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Given Solution:  The vertex of the 'blue' parabola is at the point (2, -1), the 'lowest' point on the parabola.

The vertex of the 'purple' parabola is at the point (-2, 3), the 'highest' point on the parabola.

Self-critique:

 

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Self-critique rating:

All though I correctly answered both vertex on the remaining two parabolas I did not go into detail or explain if the vertex was the lowest point (minimum) or the highest point (maximum).

 

 

Question `q002:  What are the coordinates of the other two 'basic points' of each parabola?

 

 

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Your Solution:

For the other upward facing parabola or the blue one the two points are (1,0) and (3,0) which are two units apart and both lie on the x axis.

The downward facing parabola or the purple one has two points (-3,1) and (-1,1) which are two units apart and lie on the line y=1.

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Given Solution:  For the 'blue' parabola, the points (1, 0) and (3, 0) are two units apart, and lie on the same horizontal line.  The horizontal line is the x axis.

For the 'purple' parabola, the points (-3, 1) and (-1, 1) are two units apart.  These points lie on the horizontal line where y = 2. 

Self-critique:

I mentioned the same information but I do not understand why the purple parabola has the points that lie on the horizontal line where y=2????????????

@& That's an apparent typo on my part. The line would be y = 1, as you say.*@

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Question `q003:  For the first parabola, the one whose vertex is (2, 1), how far would we have to move to the right or the left, starting from the vertex, in order to be directly above or below another of its 'basic points'?  How far would we then have to move in the vertical direction to reach that point?

 

 

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Your Solution:

The two points can be reached by moving 1 unit to either the left or the right which will be directly below the other point. Then you can reach one of the points, depending on if you moved left or right, by moving up 2 units.

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Given Solution:  For the parabola with vertex (2, 1), if we move 1 unit to the right or left we will be at the point (3, 1) or (1, 1), putting us directly below one of the other two basic points.  If we then move 2 units upward, we will be at the point (3, 3) or (1, 3).

So if we move 1 unit to the right or left, we need to move 2 units upward to get to another basic point.

Self-critique:

The answers I gave matched your answers but I did not describe in detail which point you would be at after each step.

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Question `q004:  For each of the other two parabolas, how far would we have to move to the right or the left, starting from the vertex, in order to be directly above or below another of its 'basic points'?  How far would we then have to move in the vertical direction to reach that point?

 

 

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Your Solution:

For both parabolas we would be directly below or above the other points if we moved right or left 1 unit from the vertex. After moving horizontally we need to make a move vertically but the parabola decided if we move up or down and how far in that direction. For the purple parabola you move 2 unites downward and for the blue parabola you move 1 unite upward.

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Given Solution:  For either of the other two parabolas, if we move 1 unit to the right or left we will be directly above or below one of its basic points (above in the case of the 'third' parabola, whose vertex is (-2, 3), below in the case of the 'second' parabola, whose vertex is (2, -1).)

To get to the basic points of the 'third' parabola we will need to move 2 units downward. 

To get to the basic points of the 'second' parabola we will need to move 1 unit upward. 

Self-critique:

The information in each solution is very similar but the given solution goes into more detail on which parabola is being discussed by stating the vertex and instead of describing them by color...the answers are the same just the amount of detail differs.

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Question `q005.  Solve the following system of simultaneous linear equations: 

3a + 3b = 9

6a + 5b = 16.

 

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Your solution: 

This problem would first be solved by comparing the two equations to understand what step should be taken first. They both contain the same variables and since the coefficient of a in the second equation (6) is double that of the leading coefficient in the first equation it is simple to see the first step should be to multiply the entire first equation by -2.

-2 (3a+3b) = -2(9)

6a+5b = 16

Once the multiplication is complete the equations can be added and the solution for b can be found.

-6a - 6b = -18

6a + 5b = 16

After the equations are added I was left with -b = -2 which is b=2.

 

 

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Given Solution: 

The system

 

3a + 3b = 9

6a + 5b = 16

 

can be solved by adding an appropriate multiple of one equation in order to eliminate one of the variables.

 

Since the coefficient of a in the second equation (the coefficient of a in the second equation is 6)) is double that in the first (the coefficient of a in the first equation is 3), we can multiply the first equation by -2 in order to make the coefficients of a equal and opposite: 

 

-2 * [ 3a + 3b ] = -2 [ 9 ]

6a + 5b = 16

 

gives us

 

-6a - 6 b = -18

  6a + 5b = 16

 

.  Adding the two equations together we obtain

 

-b = -2, or just b = 2.

 

Substituting b = 2 into the first equation we obtain

 

3 a + 3(2) = 9, or

3 a + 6 = 9 so that

3 a = 3 and

a = 1. 

 

Our solution is therefore a = 1, b = 2. 

 

We used the first equation in our last step, so we verigy this solution is by substituting these values into the second equation, where we get 6 * 1 + 5 * 2 = 6 + 10 = 16. 

 

STUDENT QUESTION

 

I got my answer in a very different way than the solution given. I have been trying to remember things from the classes I

took a long time ago and came up with this answer. Is it alright to use this method?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

 

Here is a synopsis of your solution:

 

I'll first solve the first equation for a:

 

3a+3b=9 so

a+b=3 so

a=3-b.

 

Now I'll substitute this expression for a into the second equation

 

6 a + 5 b = 16  

 

Replacing a with 3 - b:

6(3-b)+5b=16

18-6b+5b=16

-b=-2

b=2

a = 3 - b so a=3 - 2 = 1

 

Substituting a = 1 and b = 2 into the two equations we get

3(1)+3(2)=9 so 9 = 9

6(1)+5(2)=16 so 16 = 16.

 

The solution checks with the two equations.

 

You have an excellent solution.

 

The method you have used is performed correctly and is equally valid with the method used in the solutions. It is called the 'substitution method'. For these first few problems in this course the substitution method and the elimination method are equally efficient.

However the elimination method is also important, and since elimination works better on most of the problems we'll be encountering in the near future, it is the method I use in the given solutions. 

You can use either method, as long as you know both. However you might find the given solutions easier to understand if you use the elimination method.

 

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OK

 

 

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Question:  `q006.  Solve the following system of simultaneous linear equations using the method of elimination:

 

4a + 5b = 18

6a + 9b = 30.

 

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Your solution:   

I first examined each equation and noticed it would be easy to get both coefficients of a to be 12 by multiplying the first equation by -3 and multiplying the second equation by 2:

-3 (4a + 5b) = -3 (18)

2 (6a + 9b) = 2 (30)

Which left me with the following equations:

-12a -15b = -54

12a + 18b = 60

After solving the system I ended up with 3b = 6 or b=2.

I plugged in the value obtained for b into the first equation which looked like this:

4a+5(2)=18

4a+10=18

4a=8

So the value for a should be a=2, I tested this by plugging in both values I had obtained into the second equation, which looks like this:

6(2) + 9(2) = 30

12 + 18 = 30

30=30

Since the statement 30=30 is true than a=2 and b=2 is justified and therefore are the correct values for the variables.

 

 

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Given Solution: 

In the system

 

4a + 5b = 18

6a + 9b = 30

 

we see that the coefficients of b are relatively prime; they therefore have a least common multiple equal to 5 * 9.  The coefficients 4  and 6 of a have a least common multiple of 12. 

 

We have a choice of which variable to eliminate.  We could 'match' the b by multiplying the first equation by 9 and the second by -5, or we could match the coefficients of a by multiplying the first equation by 3 and the second by -2. 

Either choice would work.  The numbers required to 'match' the coefficients of a are smaller, but the numbers required to 'match the coefficients of b would otherwise work equally well.

Choosing to 'match' the coefficient of a, we obtain

 

3 * [4a + 5b ] = 3 * 18

-2 * [ 6a + 9b ] = -2 * 30,

 

so the system becomes

 

12 a + 15 b = 54

-12 a - 18 b = -60.

 

Adding the equations we get

 

-3 b = -6, so

b = 2. 

 

Substituting this value of b into the first equation we obtain

 

4 a + 5 * 2 = 18, or

4 a + 10 = 18,

 

which we easily solve to obtain

 

a = 2.

 

Substituting this value of a into the second equation we obtain

 

6 * 2 + 9 * 2 = 30,

 

which verifies our solution.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):

I could have also explained that I could have done the same process with the coefficients of b, however the concept of this material is understood and proved by my explanation of how I obtained the correct answers.

 

 

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Question:  `q007.  If y = 5x + 8, then for what value of x will we have y = 13?

 

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Your solution: 

For this problem I simply started out by substituting 13 in for the value of y making the equation:

13 = 5x + 8

From there I used simple mathematics to find the value for the only variable left. This process went as so:

13 – 8 = 5x

5 / 5 = x

x = 1

This means that when the value of x is equal to 1 then the value of y will be equal to 13. This could be tested by substituting 1 in for the value of x and 13 in for the value of y which would give you 13=13 thus justifying the solutions to this equation.

 

 

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Given Solution: 

We first substitute y = 13 into the equation y = 5 x + 8 to obtain

 

13 = 5 x + 8. 

Subtracting 8 from both equations and reversing the equality we obtain

 

5 x = 5,

which we easily solve to obtain

x = 1.

 

 

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Question:  `q008.  Sketch a set of coordinate axes representing y vs. x, with y on the vertical axis and x on the horizontal axis.

 

Plot the points (1, -2), (3, 5) and (7, 8). 

Sketch a smooth curve passing through these three points. 

On your curve, what are the y coordinates corresponding to x coordinates 1, 3, 5 and 7?  Estimate these coordinates as accurately as you can from your graph. 

 

Retain your sketch for use in future questions. 

 

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Your solution: 

After sketching a graph and plotting the points I found that the points for the given x values where as follows: (1,-2), (3,5), (5,7.5) and (7,8)

 

 

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Given Solution: 

The x coordinates 1, 3 and 7 match the x coordinates of the three given points, the y coordinates will be the y coordinates -2, 5 and 8, respectively, of those points. 

 

At x = 5 the precise value of x, for a perfect parabola, would be 8 1/3, or about 8.333. 

You are unlikely to have drawn a perfect parabola and your estimate will almost certainly differ from this value.  Any estimate with .5 or so of this value would be a good estimate. 

Drawn with complete accuracy a parabola through these points will peak between x = 3 in and x = 7.   

The peak of the actual parabola will occur close to x = 6.  Any estimate between x = 5 and x = 7 is pretty good, and even an estimate between x = 7 and x = 8 is not unreasonable.

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Question:  `q009.  Using your sketch from the preceding exercise, estimate the x coordinates corresponding to y coordinates 1, 3, 5 and 7.  Also estimate the x values at which y is 0.

 

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Your solution: 

The estimated x coordinates on the sketch of my graph are as follows:

y=1 x=1.5 and 10

y=3 x=2.5 and 9

y=5 x=3

y=7 x=4.2 and 7.9

 

 

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Given Solution: 

 

The easiest way to estimate your points would be to make horizontal lines on your graph at y = 1, 3, 5 and 7.  You would easily locate the points were these lines intersect your graph, then estimate the x coordinates of these points. 

 

For the actual parabola passing through the given points, y will be 1 when x = 1.7 (and also, if your graph extended that far, near x = 10).

 

y = 3 near x = 2.3 (and near x = 9.3). 

y = 5 at the given point (3, 5), where x = 3. 

y = 7 near x = 4 (and also near x = 7.7).

Any set of estimates in the vicinity of these values is good.

 

STUDENT COMMENT:

 

I’m still not clear on this. I didn’t get the same as you and my graph went to 12. I know when we estimate we will not get

the same answer, but did I do this right?  If not what do I do to correct it?

 

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: 

 

The following commentary need not be self-critiqued, though you may certainly ask questions if you wish.  However I have two reasons for including it:

The estimates here were given by a good student whose graph for some reason didn't match the points on this particular problem.  If this student missed his/her estimates, then most students will need some clarification at this point.

The discussion and the graphs shown here should be helpful to you.  You should be able to sketch these graphs, label the coordinate axes based on the coordinates of the three points, and make reasonable verification of the values given here.

This situation is closely related to the work we will be doing in the first few assignments, where we will actually learn to do parabolic or quadratic curve fits.

Instructor response to student:

 

Some of your estimates were reasonable, but others weren't.

 

Your solution was

if y = 0 then x = 0

if y = 1 then x = approx. 1.7

if y = 3 then x = approx. 4.6

if y = 5 then x = approx. 8.1

if y = 7 then x = approx. 11.5

If the x coordinates 1,3 7 match the y coordinates -2,5,8, then

y = 1 at x = 1.7 is a very reasonable estimate

y = 3 at x = 4.6 is not a reasonable estimate. By the time x = 3, y already has a value of 5, and is increasing toward value y = 8 at x = 7. For an x value between 3 and 5 we would expect y to be greater than 5; we would not expect a y value of 3 to occur on this x interval.

y = 5 at x = 8.1 is a reasonable estimate. When x = 7 we have y = 8, and it's possible to draw a reasonable graph on which y decreases to 5 by the time x = 8.

y = 7 at x = 11.5 isn't consistent with your previous estimates. You already have y down to value 5 by the time x = 8.1, and there's no reason to expect the graph to turn around and go back up to 7 by the time x reaches 11.5.

 

 

The figure below depicts the three data points.  Your graph should have similar form.

 

 

The graph below shows the parabola that actually passes through these points.  Your graph won't necessarily look the same, since you probably aren't practiced at drawing an accurate parabola through three given points, and besides nobody told you to use a parabola.  So it's no problem if your graph differs from this one, but this 'ideal' graph is the basis for the numbers in the given solution.  For this graph, y = 0 somewhere between x = 1 and x = 3, closer to x = 1; we might estimate that this occurs at x = 1.5 (a fairly precise value for the actual parabola is about x = 1.476). 

 

You will learn a lot more about parabolas within the next couple of weeks.  In fact, by Assignment 4 or 5, you will have learned how to create and use a parabolic model for any three points, and you'll see that while it's not really what you'd call easy, it's not all that difficult either.

 

The graph below isn't parabolic, but it's still a smooth curve and passes through the given points, and your graph could well look like this. 

 

The y value at x = 5 appears to be pretty close to the x = 7 value, which is y = 8.  The y = 0 value again occurs between x = 1 and x = 3; perhaps a little to the left of the point in the above graph, maybe at x = 1.4.

 

Another reasonable graph is shown below.  At x = 5 the y value is probably around 7.

 

The graph below agrees with the estimates you gave.  While it fits the overall trend of the data by 'staying in the middle', it doesn't fit any of the three given points very well. 

 

This graph has been included so you can verify that it agrees reasonably with your given values

if y = 0 then x = 0

if y = 1 then x = approx. 1.7

if y = 3 then x = approx. 4.6

if y = 5 then x = approx. 8.1

if y = 7 then x = approx. 11.5

 

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Question:  `q010.  Suppose the graph you used in the preceding two exercises represents the profit y on an item, with profit given in cents, when the selling price is x, with selling price in dollars.  According to your graph:

What would be the profit if the item is sold for 4 dollars? 

What selling price would result in a profit of 7 cents? 

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Your solution: 

I found the profit by first finding the x value given. When the item is sold for four dollars than the profit would be a little over 6 cents per item sold.

I used the same method for finding the profit if the item was sold at 7 cents and the corresponding y value was around about 5 cents profit per item sold.

 

 

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Given Solution: 

To find the profit for a selling price of x = 4 dollars, we would look at the x = 4 point on the graph. 

 

This point is easily located by sketching a vertical line through x = 4.  Projecting over to the y-axis from this point, you should have obtained an x value somewhere around 6 of 7, depending on how you drew the graph.  This represents a profit of about 6 or 7 cents.

The profit is the y value, so to obtain the selling price x corresponding to a profit of y = 7 we sketch the horizontal line at y = 7, which as in a preceding exercise will give us x values of about 4 or 5 (y = 7 would also occur at x = 7.7, approx., if the entire parabola was drawn).

 

STUDENT COMMENT:

 

I think I'm doing my graphs wrong.  Can you help?

 

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

 

See also my notes on the preceding problems, especially the ones with the graphs.

 

The graph depicted below doesn't fit the original points very well, but we'll use it to illustrate the situation.  As before you should review the coordinates of the three given points and make sense of them on this graph.

 

The 'red' line is a vertical line through x = 4.  This line is drawn first.

 

The 'green' horizontal line is then drawn through the point where the x = 4 line intersects the graph.

 

You should verify for yourself that the 'green' line intersects the y axis around y = 6 (the actual coordinate is about y = 6.2, but you aren't expected to be able to verify the value that accurately; you should however be able to tell that the coordinate is closer to 6 than to 5 or 7, based on the coordinates of the three given points).

 

This would tell us that if the selling price is around 4 units, the profit is around 6 units.

 

To find the selling price that will bring a profit of 7 units, we first draw the horizontal 'blue' line through y = 7.

 

Then we draw the vertical 'purple' line, through the point where our horizontal line intersects the graph.  This line intersects the x axis somewhere between x = 4 and x = 5.  It's hard to tell whether the x value is closer to 4 than to 5, so we might estimate that this occurs around x = 4.5 (the actual value as depicted is about x = 4.43).

 

This would tell us that to achieve a profit of 7 units, the selling price should be about 4.5 units.

 

Your estimates will of course differ from these, depending on how you drew your graph. 

 

For example, if the parabola is taken as the 'perfect' model for the data, the results might vary from these by as much as a unit.

 

Worth noting, even though you probably don't understand it yet:  For a number of reasons you will soon understand, it turns out that the parabola is a very reasonable model for estimating how price and profit are related.

 

 

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Question:  `q011.  On another set of coordinate axes, plot the points (-3, 4) and (5, -2).  Sketch a straight line through these points. 

 

We will proceed step-by-step obtain an approximate equation for this line:

 

First substitute the x and y coordinates of the first point into the form y = m x + b. 

 

What equation do you obtain when you make this substitution?

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Your solution: 

By substituting the x and y coordinates of the first point in to slope intercept form the equation would look like this: 4 = -3m + b

 

 

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Given Solution: 

Substituting x = -3 and y = 4 into the form y = m x + b, we obtain the equation

 

 4 = -3 m + b. 

We can reverse the right- and left-hand sides to get

-3 m + b = 4. 

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Question:  `q012.  Substitute the coordinates of the point (5, -2) into the form y = m x + b.  What equation do you get?

 

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Your solution: 

The equation would be -2 = 5m+b

 

 

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Given Solution: 

Substituting x = 5 and y = -2 into the form y = m x + b, we obtain the equation

 

 -2 = 5 m + b. 

Reversing the sides we have

 

5 m + b = -2

 

 

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Question:  `q013.  You have obtained the equations -3 m + b = 4 and 5 m + b = -2.  Use the method of elimination to solve these simultaneous equations for m and b.

 

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Your solution: 

I first started by examining the two equations and I seen that b can be eliminated by subtracting the first equation by the second equation which gave me

-8m=6

m--3/4

Then I took the value I just found for m and substituted it back into the first equation and solved for b which looked like this:

-3(-3/4) + b = 4

b = 7/4

I now have the value for both variables and to check my solutions I just substitute the values in for the corresponding variables into the second equation. The process of checking my solutions looked like this:

5 (-3/4) = (7/4) = -2

(-8/4) = -2

-2 = -2

Since -2 equals -2 the values for the variables are correct.

 

 

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Given Solution: 

Starting with the system

 

-3 m + b = 4

5 m + b = -2

we can easily eliminate b by subtracting the equations.  If we subtract the first equation from the second we obtain

 

-8 m = 6, with solution

m = -3/4.

Substituting this value into the first equation we obtain

 

(-3/4) * -3 + b = 4, which we easily solve to obtain

b = 7/4.

To check our solution we substitute m = -3/4 and b = 7/4 into the second equation, obtaining

 

5 ( -3/4) + 7/4 = -2, which gives us -8/4 = -2 or -2 = -2.

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Question:  `q014.  Substitute your solutions b = 7/4 and m = -3/4 into the original form y = m x + b. 

What equation do you obtain? 

What is the significance of this equation?

 

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Your solution: 

Substituting the values back into the original formula of y = m x + b will look like this:

y = (-3/4)x + (7/4)

This equation is significant because it is the equation of a straight line that goes through the previous points given earlier which were (-3,4) and (5,-2)

 

 

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Given Solution: 

Substituting b = 7/4 and m = -3/4 into the form y = m x + b, we obtain the equation

 

y = -3/4 x + 7/4.

This is the equation of the straight line through the given points (-3, 4) and (5, -2).

 

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