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Version 2Determine the average rate of change of the function y(t) = .5 t^ 2 + 80 t + -10 between x and x + Dx.

What are the growth rate, growth factor and principal function P(t) for an initial investment of $ 990 which is compounded

annually at 10% interest?

that is a quadratic formula, and the derivative would be the rate of change.

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for terminology sake....I believe I would then call this an expression

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Terminology:

That's a quadratic function.

A quadratic expression is an expression of the form a t^2 + b t + c.

A quadratic equation sets a quadratic expression equal to zero.

The quadratic formula is used to solve a quadratic equation.

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That's just terminology, but it helps to keep it straight.

You are right about the derivative, and that's what's really important here.

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the derivative of a quadratic is

y'=2at+b

this specific function would be

y'=1t+80

y'=t+80

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Very good.

This is related to the correct answer to the question, but it isn't the correct answer. The derivative gives the instantaneous rate of change. The question asked for an average rate of change.

The average rate of change between t = x and t = x + `dx would be based on the change in y and the change in x.

The change in y would be the second value minus the first.

The second value would be y(x + `dx), and the first would be y(x).

What therefore are the expressions for y(x + `dx), y(x), and the change in y?

What is the change in x?

What therefore is the average rate of change?

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you said What therefore are the expressions for y(x + `dx), y(x), and the change in y?

What is the change in x?

this sounds like the slope to me. which as you've seen me state previously, the derivative seems to be a type of slope, and I'd use( y(x + `dx) - y(x) ) /( change in x) which sounds like the derivative.

but if I remember correctly now I always crafted my segments of lines, finding the average rate of change, or so I called it.

This has got me so confused now.... but I'll try again . the only thing I can think of currently is if i take two instantaneous rates, and get the average...that is an average of rates so

(((x+'dx) +80)+(x+80)/2 would be the average rate of change between x and x + 'dx

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I think I get it now.... Im not sure how to get it to a generic expression. but with two values.

y(t) = .5 t ^2 + 80t + -10.

y(2)=2+160-10

y(2)=152

y(4)=8+320-10

y(4)=318

318-152=166

166/(4-2)

166/2= 83 I don't feel like that is an an average rate of change though.

a quadratic has different rates of change, and one value doesnt help

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The quadratic function does indeed have numerous instantaneous rates of change during this interval. However the idea of an average rate of change is more fundamental and more tangible than the idea of an instantaneous rate of change. Consistent with the very numerous uses of the idea of the average rate at which one quantity changes due to changes in another, we define the average rate of change as the change in one quantity, divided by a change in the other.

We then invoke a limiting process to define instantaneous rates of change.

Switching gears to the idea that there is at each instant and instantaneous rate of change:

y ' (t) = t + 80, and changes from 82 to 84 as t changes from 2 to 4. So 83 is in fact a reasonable result for the average rate of change.

If you calculated y ' (t) form t = 2, 2.1, 2.2, ..., 3.8, 3.9, 4, and averaged the results, you would again get 83.

Of course this requires that you really believe that y ' (t) = t + 80 is the expression for the instantaneous rate of change. That is validated by calculating average rates of change between t and t + `dt, and allowing `dt to approach zero. The result of the limiting process is a rate of change we can associate with the instant t.

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You can't reliably find the average rate of change on an interval by averaging the initial and final rates. That will actually work if the derivative of the function is linear, which is the case here, but it's not a valid general approach to finding the average rate of change. It does work to find an approximate average rate of change, but that's not what was requested here.

The question can be, and needs to be, answered without reference to the derivative.

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The calculation is straightforward.

The average rate of change of y with respect to t is

average rate = (change in y) / (change in t).

As t changes from x to x + `dx, what are the two corresponding values of y, and what therefore is the change in y?

What is the change in t?

What therefore is the average rate of change?

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Having found the average rate of change, you can then ask what happens as `dx approaches zero. That will lead you to the formula for the derivative.

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so does that mean the average is before I use the limit as x approaches 0?

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It feels like that is what it is, before we do the limit as x approaches zero, which would mean any quadratic would have an 2at+b+a'dt. because as x approaches zero we get the derivative, and make that 2at+b. and for this function that would be

1t+80+1'dt

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... and as `dt approaches zero, you're left with just the instantaneous rate t + 80. Good.

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Terminology again:

.1 is not the percent increase. The percent increase would be 10%, since .1 is the same as 10%.

.1 would be called the proportional increase.

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the function is P=P0(1+r)^t

for this specific instance

p=990(1.1)^t

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Good work and good thinking throughout.

I've inserted a couple of notes regarding terminology.

You did not, however, answer the question about the average rate of change correctly, though did a good job of showing how to find the instantaneous rate using the derivative (that wasn't requested but it was well done).

I would like you to submit a revision showing the average rate of change, per my notes.

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Be sure to include the entire document, including my notes.

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You are making very good use of the concept of the derivative, but the average rate of change is not calculated using the derivative. It is based on values of the original function itself.

The calculation is very simple, and in fact you do understand it. You just need to associate that calculation with the question.

The slope of the graph of y vs. t does represent the average rate of change of y with respect to t. You don't need a graph or a slope to find a rate of change, so the rate of change and the slope are in fact two different things. In other words, the two are not identical, but one does represent the other in a way that makes them seem as if they are.

In any case, try one more revisions, and this time use #### to indicate your insertions.

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Your questions touch on deep philosophical arguments about the meaning of an instantaneous rate.

My notes, to some degree, allude to this without going off the deep end.

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