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Physics I

10-18-2007

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13:22:17

set 3 problems 15-19. Explain the difference between a conservative and a nonconservative force, and give an example of each.

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A conservative force means that the work done does not depend on the path but on the initial and final positions, like gravity

A nonconservative force, like friction, depends on the path.

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13:23:48

** A conservative force conserves energy--you can get your energy back.

For example:

Push something up a hill, climb back down the hill and turn your back and it will probably return your energy to you--all at once--after regaining it as it rolls back down. So you do work against gravity, and gravity can return the energy as it pulls the thing back to you.

However, there is some friction involved--you do extra work against friction, which doesn't come back to you. And some of the energy returned by gravity also gets lost to friction as the object rolls back down the hill. This energy isn't conserved--it's nonconservative. **

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A conservative force conserves energy. Gravity is conservative, it gives the energy back. Friction is nonconservative.

self critique assessment: 2

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13:39:33

If a system does work W1 against a nonconservative force while conservative forces do work W2 on the system, what are the change in the KE and PE of the system? Explain your reasoning from a commonsense point of view, and include a simple example involving a rubber band, a weight, an incline and friction.

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Work done against a conservative force increases the potential energy of the system

When W2 is done, and returns, the PE is converted to KE.

If using a nonconservative force, the energy is not conserved, and some is lost. This would not increase the PE.

The PE is the work done by the conservative forces.

`dWnet = `dWnoncons + `dPE,

The KE is equal to `dWnet.

The potential energy is the energy you can use. When it is used, it is kinetic energy.

If a rubber band is stretched, the work done by the weight to stretch the band, will be returned when the band is released.

When an object is moving on an incline, friction uses up some of the energy, so the energy is not all conserved.

confidence assessment: 2

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13:48:27

** `dKE is equal to the NET work done ON the system.

The KE of a system changes by an amount equal to the net work done on a system.

If work W1 is done BY the system against a nonconservative force then work -W1 is done ON the system by that force.

`dPE is the work done BY the system AGAINST conservative forces, and so is the negative of the work done ON the system BY nonconservative forces. In this case then `dPE = - W2. PE decreases, thereby tending to increase KE.

If work -W1 is done ON the system by a nonconservative force and W2 is done ON the system by a conservative force, the NET work done ON the system is -W1 + W2.

The KE of the system therefore changes by `dKE = -W1 + W2.

If the nonconservative force is friction and the conservative force is gravity, then since the system must do positive work against friction, W1 must be positive and hence the -W1 contribution to `dKE tends to decrease the KE.

e.g., if the system does 50 J of work against friction, then there is 50 J less KE increase than if there was no friction.

If the work done by the nonconservative force on the system is positive, e.g., gravity acting on an object which is falling downward (force and displacement in the same direction implies positive work), the tendency will be to increase the KE of the system and W2 would be positive.

If W2 is 150 J and W1 is 50 J, this means that gravity tends to increase the KE by 150 J but friction dissipates 50 J of that energy, so the change in KE will be only 100 J.

If the object was rising, displacement and gravitational force would be in opposite directions, and the work done by gravity would be negative. In this case W2 might be, say, -150 J. Then `dKE would be -150 J - 50 J = -200 J. The object would lose 200 J of KE (which would only be possible if it had at least 200 J of KE to lose--think of an object with considerable velocity sliding up a hill). **

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`dKe=work done on the system

KE of a system=net work done on a system

W1=by the system against a nonconservative force then work is done on the system by that force=-W1

`dpe=work done by the system against conservative forces=negative of the work done on the system by nonconservative forces.

`dPE=-W2

PE decreases, thereby increasing KE.

Net work done on the system= -W1 + W2

`dKE=-W1 +W2

IF the nonconservative force is friction and the conservative force is gravity, the system must overcome friction.

W1 must be positive

-W1 makes there be a decrease in KE

If the work done by the nonconservative force on the system is positive, the KE would probably increase and W2 would be positive.

What would be the nonconservative force on gravity acting on an object falling downward? Is gravity conservative?

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13:50:58

If the KE of an object changes by `dKE while the total nonconservative force does work W on the object, by how much does the PE of the object change?

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`dKE=`dPe-`dWnoncons

`dKE-`dWnoncons=`dPE

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13:55:10

** We have `dKE + `dPE + `dWbyNoncons = 0: The total of KE change of the system, PE change of the system and work done by the system against nonconservative forces is zero.

Regarding the object at the system, if W is the work done ON the object by nonconservative forces then work -W is done BY the object against nonconservative forces, and therefore `dWnoncons = -W.

We therefore have `dKE + `dPE - W = 0 so that `dPE = -`dKE + W. **

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`dKE +`dPE + `dWbyNoncons=0

`dWnoncons=-W because W is the work on the object and -W is the work done by the object

`dKE +`dPE -W=0

`dPE=-`dKE + W

self critique assessment: 2

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13:58:02

Give a specific example of such a process.

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Friction on an incline is a nonconservative force

If would cause negative work to be done on the system

`dKE +`dPE +`dWnoncons=0

`dKE+`dPE-W=0

`dPE=-dKE +W

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14:02:40

** For example if I lift an object weighing 50 N and in the process the total nonconservative force (my force and friction) does +300 J of work on the object while its KE changes by +200 J then the 300 J of work done by my force and friction is used to increase the KE by 200 J, leaving 100 J to be accounted for. This 100 J goes into the PE of the object. **

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If you lift an object weighing 50N but the total nonconservative force does 300J of work on the object, its KE changes by 200 J, then the 300 J of work done by the nonconservative forces leaves 100J for PE.

200J +100J=300J

`dKE+`dPE+`dWnoncons=0

self critique assessment: 2

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14:11:09

Class notes #10.

Why does it make sense that the work done by gravity on a set of identical hanging washers should be proportional to the product of the number of washers and the distance through which they fall? Why is this consistent with the idea that the work done on a given cart on an incline is proportional to the vertical distance through which the cart is raised?

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Force=ma

The net force acting on the set of washers is determined by the number of washers hanging there and their acceleration

Work=the work done on the cart is the product of the net force on the system and the distance through which the system moves

The height to which the cart is raised is directly proportional to the net force on the cart multiplied by the distance it moves.

The steeper the vertical distance the cart is raised, the faster it will go. It will take less work to get the cart to go down the incline.

confidence assessment: 1

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14:14:27

** The force exerted by gravity is the same on each clip, so the total gravitational force on the hanging clips is proportional to the number of clips. The work done is the product of the force and the displacement in the direction of the force, so the work done is proportional to product of the number of washers and the vertical displacement.

To pull the cart up a slope at constant velocity the number of washers required is proportional to the slope (for small slopes), and the vertical distance through which the cart is raised by a given distance of descent is proportional to the slope, to the work done is proportional to the vertical distance thru which the cart is raised. **

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The work done= force*displacement

Work is proportional to the number of washers and the displacement

To pull the cart up the incline, the washers must be proportional to the slope. The distance the cart goes up the incline is proportional to the slope

The work done is proportional to the distance the cart is raised.

self critique assessment: 1

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14:17:38

How does the work done against friction of the cart-incline-pulley-washer system compare with the work done by gravity on the washers and the work done to raise the cart? Which is greatest? What is the relationship among the three?

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Friction is working to stop the cart going up the incline. Gravity is forcing the washers downward which propels the car up the slope. The work done to raise the cart is affected by gravity pushing against the car, slowing its progress up the incline, and by gravity pushing against the washers that propel the car upward.

Gravity is the greatest force.

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14:20:23

** The force exerted by gravity on the hanging weights tends to move the system up the incline. The force exerted by gravity on the cart has a component perpendicular to the incline and a component down the incline, and the force exerted by friction is opposed to the motion of the system.

In order for the cart to move with constant velocity up the incline the net force must be zero (constant velocity implies zero accel implies zero net force) so the force exerted by gravity in the positive direction must be equal and opposite to the sum of the other two forces. So the force exerted by gravity on the hanging weights is greater than either of the opposing forces.

So the force exerted by friction is less than that exerted by gravity on the washers, and since these forces act through the same distance the work done against friction is less than the work done by gravity on the washers.

The work done against gravity to raise the cart is also less than the work done by gravity on the washers. The work friction + work against gravity to raise cart = work by gravity on the hanging weights. **

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The force exerted by gravity on the hanging weights must be greater than the other forces, in order for the cart to move.

The work friction +work against gravity to raise cart=work by gravity on the hanging weights

self critique assessment: 2

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14:22:32

What is our evidence that the acceleration of the cart is proportional to the net force on the cart?

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Force=mass*acceleration

An object with a large mass with the same acceleration, will create a larger force. The acceleration of the cart depends on the cart's mass and the force.

confidence assessment: 1

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14:23:02

** the graph of acceleration vs. number of washers should be linear **

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The graph of acceleration vs. number of washers should make a straight line.

self critique assessment: 2

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14:28:55

prin phy and gen phy prob 34: Car rolls off edge of cliff; how long to reach 85 km/hr?

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v0=0

vf=85km/hr=23.61m/s

v=v0+at

23.61m/s=0 +9.8m/s^2(t)

(23.61m/s)/9.8m/s^2=t

t=2.41s

confidence assessment: 2

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14:29:21

We know that the acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2, and this is the rate at which the velocity of the car changes. The units of 85 km/hr are not compatible with the units m/s^2, so we convert this velocity to m/s, obtaining

85 km/hr ( 1000 m/km) ( 1 hr / 3600 sec) = 23.6 m/s.

Common sense tells us that with velocity changing at 9.8 m/s every second, it will take between 2 and 3 seconds to reach 23.6 m/s.

More precisely, the car's initial vertical velocity is zero, so using the downward direction as positive, its change in velocity is `dv = 23.6 m/s. Its acceleration is a = `dv / `dt, so `dt = `dv / a = 23.6 m/s / (9.8 m/s^2) = 2.4 sec, approx..

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:32:45

**** prin phy and gen phy problem 2.52 car 0-50 m/s in 50 s by graph

How far did the car travel while in 4 th gear and how did you get the result?

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4th to 5th gear=

26 to 40s

44 to 50m/s

vave=`ds/`dt

vave=(vf+v0)/2

vave=47m/s

47m/s*14s=658m=`ds

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14:36:59

** In 4th gear the car's velocity goes from about 36.5 m/s to 45 m/s, between clock times 16 s and 27.5 s.

Its average velocity on that interval will therefore be

vAve = (36.5 m/s + 45 m/s) / 2 = 40.75 m/s and the time interval is

'dt = (27.5s - 16s) = 11.5 s.

We therefore have

'ds = vAve * `dt = 40.75 m/s * 11.5 s = 468.63 m.

The area under the curve is the distance traveled, since vAve is represented by the average height of the graph and `dt by its width. It follows that the area is vAve*'dt, which is the displacement `ds.

The slope of the graph is the acceleration of the car. This is because slope is rise/run, in this case that is 'dv/'dt, which is the ave rate of change of velocity or acceleration.

We already know `dt, and we have `dv = 45 m/s - 36.5 m/s = 8.5 m/s.

The acceleration is therefore

a = `dv / `dt = (8.5 m/s) / (11.5 s) = .77 m/s^2, approx. **

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Read the graph wrong at first.

in 4th gear=

37m/s to 45m/s

15s to 26s

vave=41m/s

`dt=11s

vave=`ds/`dt

41m/s*`dt=`ds

41m/s*11s=451m

`ds=451m

aave=`dv/`dt

aave=8m/s/11s=.73m/s^2

self critique assessment: 2

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14:38:04

**** Gen phy what is the meaning of the slope of the graph and why should it have this meaning?

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The slope of the graph is the acceleration. The average acceleration is the change in velocity divided by the time period, which is the rise over run of the graph.

confidence assessment: 2

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14:38:13

** The graph is of velocity vs. clock time, so the rise will be change in velocity and the run will be change in clock time. So the slope = rise/run represents change in vel / change in clock time, which is acceleration. **

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:39:02

Gen phy what is the meaning of the area under the curve, and why should it have this meaning?

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The area under the curve is the displacement. This is how far the object moved at a certain speed for a given amount of time.

confidence assessment: 2

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14:40:01

** The area under the curve is the distance traveled. This is so because 'ds = vAve*'dt.

'dt is equal to the width of the section under the curve and vAve is equal to the average height of the curve. The area of a trapezoid is width times average height. Although this is not a trapezoid we can annalyze it as one for estimation puposes. **

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`ds=vAve*`dt

`dt=width of the area under the curve

vave=average height of the curve

area of the trapezoid=width times height

self critique assessment: 2

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14:41:27

Gen phy what is the area of a rectangle on the graph and what does it represent?

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A rectangle on the graph is the distance traveled in x seconds at a certain speed

It is the displacement for the time interval of 10s at a certain velocity

confidence assessment: 2

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14:41:34

** The area of a rectange on the graph represents a distance. **

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14:41:48

univ phy problem 2.90 from 10th edition (University Physics students should solve this problem now). Superman stands on the top of a skyscraper 180 m high. A student with a stopwatch, determined to test the acceleration of gravity for himself, steps off the top of the building but Superman can't start after him for 5 seconds. If Superman then propels himself downward with some init vel v0 and after that falls freely, what is the minimum value of v0 so that he catches the student before that person strikes the ground?

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14:41:53

univ phy what is Superman's initial velocity, and what does the graph look like (be specific)?

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14:41:57

``a** In time interval `dt after leaving the building the falling student has fallen through displacement `ds = v0 `dt + .5 a `dt^2, where v0 = 0 and, choosing the downward direction to be positive, we have a = -9.8 m/s^2. If `ds = -180 m then we have `ds = .5 a `dt^2 and `dt = sqrt(2 * `ds / a) = sqrt(2 * -180 m / (-9.8 m/s^2)) = 6 sec, approx..

Superman starts 5 seconds later, and has 1 second to reach the person. Superman must therefore accelerate at -9.8 m/s^2 thru `ds = -180 m in 1 second, starting at velocity v0.

Given `ds, `dt and a we find v0 by solving `ds = v0 `dt + .5 a `dt^2 for v0, obtaining v0 = (`ds - .5 a `dt^2) / `dt = (-180 m - .5 * -9.8 m/s^2 * (1 sec)^2 ) / (1 sec) = -175 m/s, approx.

Note that Superman's velocity has only about 1 second to change, so changes by only about -9.8 m/s^2, or about -10 m/s^2. **

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14:42:00

``qsketch a graph of Superman's position vs. clock time, and on the same graph show the student's position vs. clock time, with clock time starting when the person begins falling

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14:42:04

** If we start our clock at t = 0 at the instant the student leaves the top of the building then at clock time t the student's `dt will be just equal to t and his position will be x = x0 + v0 t + .5 a t^2 = .5 a t^2, with x0 = 180 m and a = -9.8 m/s^2. A graph of x vs. t will be a parabola with vertex at (0,180), intercepting the t axis at about t = 6 sec.

For Superman the time of fall will be `dt = t - 5 sec and his position will be x = x0 + v0 (t-5sec) + .5 a (t-5sec)^2, another parabola with an unspecified vertex.

A graph of altitude vs. t shows the student's position as a parabola with vertex (0, 180), concave downward to intercept the t axis at (6,0). Superman's graph starts at (5,180) and forms a nearly straight line, intercepting the t axis also at (6,0). Superman's graph is in fact slightly concave downward, starting with slope -175 and ending with slope -185, approx. **

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