course Mth 271

06-29-2008dؔõi

assignment #005

005.

06-29-2008

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13:22:46

`qNote that there are 9 questions in this assignment.

`q001. We see that the water depth vs. clock time system likely behaves in a much more predictable detailed manner than the stock market. So we will focus for a while on this system. An accurate graph of the water depth vs. clock time will be a smooth curve. Does this curve suggest a constantly changing rate of depth change or a constant rate of depth change? What is in about the curve at a point that tells you the rate of depth change?

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I think it reflects a constant rate of depth change.

I do not understand what the second question is asking?

confidence assessment: 1

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13:23:07

The steepness of the curve is continually changing. Since it is the slope of the curve then indicates the rate of depth change, the depth vs. clock time curve represents a constantly changing rate of depth change.

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self critique assessment: 3

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13:31:10

`q002. As you will see, or perhaps have already seen, it is possible to represent the behavior of the system by a quadratic function of the form y = a t^2 + b t + c, where y is used to represent depth and t represents clock time. If we know the precise depths at three different clock times there is a unique quadratic function that fits those three points, in the sense that the graph of this function passes precisely through the three points. Furthermore if the cylinder and the hole in the bottom are both uniform the quadratic model will predict the depth at all in-between clock times with great accuracy.

Suppose that another system of the same type has quadratic model y = y(t) = .01 t^2 - 2 t + 90, where y is the depth in cm and t the clock time in seconds. What are the depths for this system at t = 10, t = 40 and t = 90?

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y(10)=.01 x 10^2 - 2(10) + 90

= .01 x 100 - 20 + 90

=1 - 20 + 90

=71

y(40)= 26

y(90)= -9

confidence assessment: 2

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13:31:50

At t=10 the depth is y(10) = .01(10^2) + 2(10) + 90 = 1 - 20 + 90 = 71, representing a depth of 71 cm.

At t=20 the depth is y(20) = .01(20^2) - 2(20) + 90 = 4 - 40 + 90 = 54, representing a depth of 54 cm.

At t=90 the depth is y(90) = .01(90^2) - 2(90) + 90 = 81 - 180 + 90 = -9, representing a depth of -9 cm.

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self critique assessment: 3

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13:35:41

`q003. For the preceding situation, what are the average rates which the depth changes over each of the two-time intervals?

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from y(10) to y(20) there were 17 centimeters difference in the 10 seconds, from y(20) to y(90) there were 60 cm change over 70 seconds.

so 17 + 63=80 and 80/2 = 40 cm

confidence assessment: 1

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13:37:10

From 71 cm to 54 cm is a change of 54 cm - 71 cm = -17 cm; this change takes place between t = 10 sec and t = 20 sec, so the change in clock time is 20 sec - 10 sec = 10 sec. The average rate of change between these to clock times is therefore

ave rate = change in depth / change in clock time = -17 cm / 10 sec = -1.7 cm/s.

From 54 cm to -9 cm is a change of -9 cm - 54 cm = -63 cm; this change takes place between t = 40 sec and t = 90 sec, so the change in clock time is a9 0 sec - 40 sec = 50 sec. The average rate of change between these to clock times is therefore

ave rate = change in depth / change in clock time = -63 cm / 50 sec = -1.26 cm/s.

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self critique assessment: 3

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13:52:19

`q004. What is the average rate at which the depth changes between t = 10 and t = 11, and what is the average rate at which the depth changes between t = 10 and t = 10.1?

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t(11)=69.21

t(10.1)= 70.8201

avg rate of t(10) and t(11) = 1.79 cm/s

avg rate of t(10) and t(10.1) = .1799 cm/.1 sec

confidence assessment: 2

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13:53:00

At t=10 the depth is y(10) = .01(10^2) - 2(10) + 90 = 1 - 20 + 90 = 71, representing a depth of 71 cm.

At t=11 the depth is y(11) = .01(11^2) - 2(11) + 90 = 1.21 - 22 + 90 = 69.21, representing a depth of 69.21 cm.

The average rate of depth change between t=10 and t = 11 is therefore

change in depth / change in clock time = ( 69.21 - 71) cm / [ (11 - 10) sec ] = -1.79 cm/s.

At t=10.1 the depth is y(10.1) = .01(10.1^2) - 2(10.1) + 90 = 1.0201 - 20.2 + 90 = 70.8201, representing a depth of 70.8201 cm.

The average rate of depth change between t=10 and t = 10.1 is therefore

change in depth / change in clock time = ( 70.8201 - 71) cm / [ (10.1 - 10) sec ] = -1.799 cm/s.

We see that for the interval from t = 10 sec to t = 20 sec, then t = 10 s to t = 11 s, then from t = 10 s to t = 10.1 s the progression of average rates is -1.7 cm/s, -1.79 cm/s, -1.799 cm/s. It is important to note that rounding off could have hidden this progression. For example if the 70.8201 cm had been rounded off to 70.82 cm, the last result would have been -1.8 cm and the interpretation of the progression would change. When dealing with small differences it is important not around off too soon.

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self critique assessment: 3

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13:54:21

`q005. What do you think is the precise rate at which depth is changing at the instant t = 10?

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Around 1.72

confidence assessment: 1

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13:54:46

The progression -1.7 cm/s, -1.79 cm/s, -1.799 cm/s corresponds to time intervals of `dt = 10, 1, and .1 sec, with all intervals starting at the instant t = 10 sec. That is, we have shorter and shorter intervals starting at t = 10 sec. We therefore expect that the progression might well continue with -1.7999 cm/s, -1.79999 cm/s, etc.. We see that these numbers approach more and more closely to -1.8, and that there is no limit to how closely they approach. It therefore makes sense that at the instant t = 10, the rate is exactly -1.8.

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:00:58

`q006. In symbols, what are the depths at clock time t = t1 and at clock time t = t1 + `dt, where `dt is the time interval between the two clock times?

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y(t1)= .01 x t1^2 - 2(t1) + 90

y(t1 + 'dt) = .01 x (t1 + 'dt)^2 - 2( t1+'dt) + 90

confidence assessment: 0

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14:01:12

At clock time t = t1 the depth is y(t1) = .01 t1^2 - 2 t1 + 90 and at clock time t = t1 + `dt the depth is y(t1 + `dt) = .01 (t1 + `dt)^2 - 2 (t1 + `dt) + 90.

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:03:03

`q007. What is the change in depth between these clock times?

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What clock times?

confidence assessment: 0

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14:04:28

The change in depth is .01 (t1 + `dt)^2 - 2 (t1 + `dt) + 90 - (.01 t1^2 - 2 t1 + 90)

= .01 (t1^2 + 2 t1 `dt + `dt^2) - 2 t1 - 2 `dt + 90 - (.01 t1^2 - 2 t1 + 90)

= .01 t1^2 + .02 t1 `dt + .01`dt^2 - 2 t1 - 2 `dt + 90 - .01 t1^2 + 2 t1 - 90)

= .02 t1 `dt + - 2 `dt + .01 `dt^2.

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:07:02

`q008. What is the average rate at which depth changes between these clock time?

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confidence assessment: 1

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14:08:06

The average rate is

ave rate = change in depth / change in clock time = ( .02 t1 `dt + - 2 `dt + .01 `dt^2 ) / `dt = .02 t1 - 2 + .01 `dt.

Note that as `dt shrinks to 0 this expression approaches .02 t1 - 2.

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I'm not really understanding this!

self critique assessment: 1

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14:10:21

`q009. What is the value of .02 t1 - 2 at t1 = 10 and how is this consistent with preceding results?

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.02 x 10 - 2

=.2-2=-1.8

this is consistent with the results before

confidence assessment: 3

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14:10:30

At t1 = 10 we get .02 * 10 - 2 = .2 - 2 = -1.8. This is the rate we conjectured for t = 10.

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self critique assessment: 3

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course Mth 271

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assignment #006

006. goin' the other way

06-29-2008

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14:43:36

`qNote that there are 7 questions in this assignment.

`q001. If the water and a certain cylinder is changing depth at a rate of -4 cm/sec at the t = 20 second instant, at which instant the depth is 80 cm, then approximately what do you expect the depth will be at the t = 21 second instant?

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d=76

confidence assessment: 3

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14:43:43

At a rate of -4 cm/s, for the 1-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 21 s the change in depth would be -4 cm/s * 1 sec = -4 cm. If the depth was 80 cm at t = 20 sec, the depth at t = 21 sec would be 80 cm - 4 cm/ = 76 cm.

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:45:35

`q002. Using the same information, what the you expect the depth will be depth at the t = 30 sec instant? Do you think this estimate is more or less accurate than the estimate you made for the t = 21 second instant?

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By the information from the previous question you would think that the depth should be 40 cm but I would estimate it being less acurate than the estimate made for t=21

confidence assessment: 3

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14:45:44

At - 4 cm/s, during the 10-second interval between t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec we would expect a depth change of -4 cm/sec * 10 sec = -40 cm, which would result in a t = 30 sec depth of 80 cm - 40 cm = 40 cm.

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:48:14

`q003. If you know that the depth in the preceding example is changing at the rate of -3 cm/s at the t = 30 sec instant, how will this change your estimate for the depth at t = 30 seconds--i.e., will your estimate be the same as before, will you estimate a greater change in depth or a lesser change in depth?

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If we assumed that the rate was -3 cm/s at t=30 then the depth would be 50 cm, and since it is a smaller amount changing we would estimate a lesser amount of change

confidence assessment: 3

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14:48:22

Since the rate of depth change has changed from -4 cm / s at t = 20 s to -3 cm / s at t = 30 s, we conclude that the depth probably wouldn't change as much has before.

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self critique assessment: 3

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14:48:34

`q004. What is your specific estimate of the depth at t = 30 seconds?

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d=50 cm

confidence assessment: 3

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14:52:07

Knowing that at t = 20 sec the rate is -4 cm/s, and at t = 30 sec the rate is -3 cm/s, we could reasonably conjecture that the approximate average rate of change between these to clock times must be about -3.5 cm/s. Over the 10-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 30 s, this would result in a depth change of -3.5 cm/s * 10 sec = -35 cm, and a t = 30 s depth of 80 cm - 35 cm = 45 cm.

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self critique assessment: 3

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15:00:37

`q005. If we have a uniform cylinder with a uniformly sized hole from which water is leaking, so that the quadratic model is very nearly a precise model of what actually happens, then the prediction that the depth will change and average rate of -3.5 cm/sec is accurate. This is because the rate at which the water depth changes will in this case be a linear function of clock time, and the average value of a linear function between two clock times must be equal to the average of its values at those to clock times.

If y is the function that tells us the depth of the water as a function of clock time, then we let y ' stand for the function that tells us the rate at which depth changes as a function of clock time.

If the rate at which depth changes is accurately modeled by the linear function y ' = .1 t - 6, with t in sec and y in cm/s, verify that the rates at t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec are indeed -4 cm/s and -3 cm/s.

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confidence assessment: 0

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15:00:48

At t = 20 sec, we evaluate y ' to obtain y ' = .1 ( 20 sec) - 6 = 2 - 6 = -4, representing -4 cm/s.

At t = 30 sec, we evaluate y' to obtain y' = .1 ( 30 sec) - 6 = 3 - 6 = -3, representing -3 cm/s.

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self critique assessment: 3

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15:02:11

`q006. For the rate function y ' = .1 t - 6, at what clock time does the rate of depth change first equal zero?

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0=.1t-6

6/.1=t

60=t

confidence assessment: 3

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15:02:17

The rate of depth change is first equal to zero when y ' = .1 t - 6 = 0. This equation is easily solved to see that t = 60 sec.

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self critique assessment: 3

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15:04:44

`q007. How much depth change is there between t = 20 sec and the time at which depth stops changing?

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80

confidence assessment: 2

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15:04:49

The rate of depth change at t = 20 sec is - 4 cm/s; at t = 60 sec the rate is 0 cm/s. The average rate at which depth changes during this 40-second interval is therefore the average of -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, or -2 cm/s.

At an average rate of -2 cm/s for 40 s, the depth change will be -80 cm. Starting at 80 cm when t = 20 sec, we see that the depth at t = 60 is therefore 80 cm - 80 cm = 0.

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self critique assessment: 3

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