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Question: `qquery Logarithms, Logarithmic Functions, Logarithmic Equations

1. For what value of x will the function y = log{base 2}(x) first reach 4?

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Your solution:

y = log{base 2} (x)

x = 2^4

x = 16

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Given Solution:

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log{base 2}(x) = 4 translates to 2^4 = x

The value of x is therefore 2^4 = 16.

NEARLY-CORRECT STUDENT SOLUTION

log{base 2}(x) = 4 translates to 2^x = 4, and 2^2 = 4 so x = 2.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

You have the right idea, but you confused the role of x when you translated log{base 2}(x) = 4.

• As you will see below, the correct translation would be 2^4 = x.

It's very easy to get the variables reversed, so the translation has to be done carefully. It's best if you understand the reasons behind the translation, so the following explanations include the reasoning.

One solution:

The y = log{base b} function is inverse to the y = b^x function.

This means that if you reverse the columns of the y = b^x table, you get the y = log{base b}(x) table.

When you reverse columns, you are reversing the x and y variables.

• For this reason, y = log{base b}(x) means the same thing as b^y = x.

• Whether you completely understand about reversing the columns, etc., be sure you remember this.

You are asked to find the x value for which y = log{base 2}(x).

The value of y = log{base 2}(x) is y. So when the value is 4, this means that

4 = log{base 2}(x).

Now, since y = log{base b}(x) means the same thing as b^y = x , the equation 4 = log{base 2}(x) means the same thing as

2^4 = x.

Since 2^4 = 16, we conclude that x = 16.

Alternative solution:

We can make a table for y = log{base 2}(x)

y = log{base 2}(x) is defined at the inverse of the function of y = 2^x.

We start with a table for y = 2^x:

x y = 2^x

-2 1/4

-1 1/2

0 1

1 2

2 4

3 8

4 16

5 32

We reverse the columns of the table, obtaining a table for y = log{base 2}(x)

x y = log{base 2}(x)

1/4 -2

1/2 -1

1 0

2 1

4 2

8 3

16 4

32 5

You should sketch rough graphs of these two functions.

From the tables, and from the graphs, it should be clear that y = log{base 2}(x) first takes value 4 when x = 16.

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Question: `qfor what value of x will the function y = ln(x) first reach y = 4?

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Your solution:

y = 4 for y = ln(x)

y = e^4 = 54.58

y = 2 = e^2 = 7.39

y = 3 = e^3 = 20.08

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Given Solution:

`ay = ln(x) means that e^y = x. The function y = ln(x) will first reach y = 4 when x = e^4 = 54.6 approx. **

ln(x) = 4 translates to x = e^4, which occurs at x = 55 approx.

ln(x) = 2 translates to x = e^2, which occurs at x = 7.4 approx.

ln(x) = 3 translates to x = e^3, which occurs at x = 20 approx. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

I had to read through “Logarithms, Logarithmic Functions, Logarithmic Equations” several times to understand this. I think I am understanding this.

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Question: `q3. Explain why the y axis is an asymptote for a log{base b}(x) function

explain why the asymptote is the negative y axis if and only if b > 1

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Your solution:

The larger the negative x, the closer it gets to 0 without reaching 0. This gives a horizontal asymptote in the negative x axis. Reverse is small positive values with large y negative numbers which gives a vertical asymptote in the negative y axis.

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Given Solution:

`a** the log{base b} function is the inverse of the y = b^x function. Assuming b > 1, large negative values of x lead to

positive b^x values near zero, resulting in a horizontal asymptotes along the negative x axis.

When the columns are reversed we end up with small positive values of x associated with large negative y, resulting in a

vertical asymptote along the negative y axis.

You can take a negative power of any positive b, greater than 1 or not.

For b > 1, larger negative powers make the result smaller, and the negative x axis is an asymptote for the function y = b^x.

For b < 1, larger positive powers make the result smaller, and the positive x axis becomes the asymptote. **

STUDENT COMMENT

I understand it to read it but can’t remember it after I have read it.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Let's consider some of the statements in the given solution.

First statement: Assuming b > 1, large negative values of x lead to positive b^x values near zero, resulting in a horizontal asymptotes along the negative x axis.

Understanding what that means: Pick a value for b. This statement assumes b > 1, so let's pick something simple like b = 2. b = 3, or b = 10, or whatever, would also work, but we'll just use b = 2.

The statement says 'large negative values of x lead to positive b^x values near zero'. So let's test this for b = 2.

What happens to the value of 2^x for increasing negative values of x? For x = -1, -2, -3, -4 the values of b^x are 2^-1 = 1/2, 2^-2 = 1/4, 2^-3 = 1/8, 2^-4 = 1/16.

Now 1/16 is clearly positive, and clearly pretty close to zero. And we aren't even into very large negative values of x. If we continue to x = -5, -6, -7, ..., our y = 2^x values stay positive, but keep getting closer and closer to 0. By the time x = -10, our y value is 1/1024, positive but less that .001.

There's no limit to how close our values can get to zero. However they always stay positive.

Now if you plot y vs. x for x = -1, -2, -3 and -4, you will see how the asymptote forms. As you move to the left along the negative x axis, the y values keep getting smaller and smaller. The graph continues to approach, but never reaches, the negative x axis.

A table of values for y = 2^x:

x y = 2^x

-4 1/16

-3 1/8

-2 1/4

-1 1/2

0 1

1 2

We chose b = 2 as a basis for this discussion. You might want to see what happens if b = 3, and if b = 10. You will find that the y values again stay positive but as we move through x values -1, -2, -3, -4, ..., we approach zero much more quickly than for b = 2. We still have an asymptote at the negative x axis, but the graph approaches it much more quickly for larger values of b.

Second statement: When the columns are reversed we end up with small positive values of x associated with large negative y, resulting in a vertical asymptote along the negative y axis.

Understanding what this means:

We are talking about reversing the columns of our y = b^x table.

For our previous b = 2 example, the reversed table is the function y = log{base b}(x), for b = 2:

x y = log{base 2}(x)

1/16 -4

1/8 -3

1/4 -2

1/2 -1

1 0

2 1

Graph this. You will see how the asymptote forms with the negative y axis.

Statement 3: For b < 1, larger positive powers make the result smaller, and the positive x axis becomes the asymptote.

Understanding what this means: Pick a positive value of b which is less than 1. Here we'll pick b = 1/2.

What happens to the function y = (1/2)^x for larger and larger positive values of x?

For x = 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., we find that y = (1/2)^x takes values 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, ... .

These are the same values obtained in the preceding example y = 2^x for x = -1, -2, -3, -4, ... .

If you make a table and a graph you will see that the y = (1/2)^x function approaches an asymptote with the positive x axis.

Additional insights:

The same thing will happen for any value of b which is less than 1. If b is less than 1, every multiplication by b gives a smaller result than before, so the values of y = b^x continue to decrease as x increases.

If you reverse the columns of the y = (1/2)^x table, you get the y = log{base 1/2)(x) table. If you graph this table, you will see how the y = (1/2)^x asymptote with the positive x axis becomes an asymptote of the log function with the positive y axis.

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Question: `q5. What are your estimates for the values of b for the two exponential functions on the given graph?

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Your solution:

(1, 3.5) and (1, 7.5)

B = 3.5 and b = 7.5

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Given Solution:

`a** The exponential function y = A b^x has y intercept (0, A) and basic point (1, A * b).

Both graphs pass thru (0, 1) so A = 1.

The x = 1 points are (1, 3.5) and (1, 7.3) approx.. Thus for the first A * b = 3.5; since A = 1 we have b = 3.5. For the

second we similarly conclude that b = 7.3.

So the functions are y = 3.5^x and y = 7.3^x, approx.. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

Use function y = A b^x. y = 3.5^x and y = 7.5^x

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Question: `qAt what points will each of the logarithmic functions reach the values y = 2, y = 3 and y = 4?

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Your solution:

y = 3.5^x will reach 2 at .53

it will reach 3 at .85

it will reach 4 at 1.11

y = 7.5^x will reach 2 at .33

it will reach 3 at .53

it will reach 4 at .69

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Given Solution:

`a** Using trial and error we find that for y = 3.5^x, the x values .55, .88 and 1.11 give us y = 2, 3 and 4.

We find that for y = 7.3^x, the x values .35, .55 and .70 give us y = 2, 3 and 4. **

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Question: `q7. What is the decibel level of a sound which is 10,000 times as loud as hearing threshold intensity?

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Your solution:

dB = 10 log(I/I0)

dB = 10 log(I/10000)

= 10 log (10000)

= 4

10^4 = 10000

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Given Solution:

`adB = 10 log(I / I0). If the sound is 10,000 times as loud as hearing threshold intensity then I / I0 = 10,000.

log(10,000) = 4, since 10^4 = 10,000.

So dB = 10 log(I / I0) = 10 * 4 = 40.

STUDENT QUESTION

I didnt understand were log(10000) is 4 came from i think i would understand the problem if i new how to come up with that

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

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'log(10,000) = 4, since 10^4 = 10,000'

Recall that log(x) and 10^x are inverse functions.

So 10^4 = 10 000 means the same thing as log(10 000) = 4.

The formal definition is in terms of inverse functions. You can also think of the log of a number as the power to which 10 must be raised to get the number.

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Self-critique (if necessary):

I got to 10^4 = 10000, but I did not know to finish the problem to do 10 *4 = 40. Why do we do that? I’m not sure I understand why?

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You do that because that's what the formula specifies.

Your last two steps read

= 10 log (10000)

= 4

The 10 log(10000) is correct.

log(10 000) = 4, so

10 log(10 000) = 10 * 4 = 40.

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Question: `qWhat are the decibel levels of sounds which are 100, 10,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 times louder than threshold intensity?

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Your solution:

dB = 10 log(I/100)

log(100) = 2

10^2 = 100

dB = log (I/I0) = 10 * 2 = 20

dB = 10 log (I/10000000)

log(10000000) = 7

10^7 = 10000000

dB = log (I/I0) = 10 * 7 = 70

dB = 10 log(I/1000000000)

log(1000000000) = 9

10^9 = 1000000000

dB = log(I/I0) = 10*9 = 90

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Given Solution:

`a10 log(100) = 10 * 2 = 20, so a sound which is 100 times hearing threshold intensity is a 20 dB sound.

10 log(10,000,000) = 10 * 7 = 70, so a sound which is 100 times hearing threshold intensity is a 70 dB sound.

10 log(1,000,000,000) = 10 * 9 = 90, so a sound which is 100 times hearing threshold intensity is a 90 dB sound.

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Self-critique (if necessary):

I now understand why the 10 * 2 and 10*7 need to be added. Thanks!

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Question: `qhow can you easily find these decibel levels without using a calculator?

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Your solution:

You can use the 100 (for example) and instead of putting a log(100) into a calculator, you know that 10^2 is also 100. So you know that log(100) will be 2.

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Given Solution:

`aSince 10^1, 10^2, 10^3, ... are 10, 100, 1000, ..., the power of 10 is the number of zeros in the result. Since the log

of a number is the power to which 10 must be raised to get this number, the log of one of these numbers is equal to the

number of zeros.

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Question: `qWhat are the decibel levels of sounds which are 500, 30,000,000 and 7,000,000,000 times louder than threshold intensity?

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Your solution:

dB = 10 log(500) = 10 * 2.69897 = 26.9897

dB = 10 log(30000000) = 7.477 * 10 = 74.77

dB = 10 log(7000000000) = 10 * 9.85 = 98.5

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Given Solution:

`a10 log(500) = 10 * 2.699 = 26.99 so this is a 26.99 dB sound.

10 log(30,000,000) = 10 * 7.477 = 74.77 so this is a 74.77 dB sound.

10 log(7,000,000,000) = 10 * 9.845 = 98.45 so this is a 98.45 dB sound.

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Question: `q8. If a sound measures 40 decibels, then what is the intensity of the sound, as a multiple of the hearing threshold intensity?

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Your solution:

40 = 10 log(x)

4 = log(x)

Not sure where to go from here.

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Given Solution:

`a** Let x be the ratio I / I0. Then we solve the equation 40= 10*log(x). You solve this by dividing by 10 to get

log(x) = 4 then translating this to exponential form

x = 10^4 = 10,000.

The sound is 10,000 times the hearing threshold intensity, so

I = 10,000 I0. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

This is what I thought, but I wasn’t sure. X would equal 10^4 which is 10,000. Understood.

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Question: `qAnswer the same question for sounds measuring 20, 50, 80 and 100 decibels.

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Your solution:

20 = 10 log(x)

2 = log(x)

x = 10^2 = 100

50 = 10 log(x)

5 = log (x)

x = 10^5 = 100,000

80 = 10 log(x)

8 = log (x)

x = 10^8 = 100,000,000

100 = 10 log(x)

10 = log (x)

x = 10^10 = 10,000,000,000

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Given Solution:

`a** since dB = 10 log(I / I0) we have

log(I/I0) = dB / 10. Translating to exponential form this tells us that

I / I0 = 10^(dB/10) wo that

I = I0 * 10^(dB/10).

For a 20 dB sound this gives us

I = I0 * 10^(20/10) = I0 * 10^2 = 100 I0. The sound is 100 times the intensity of the hearing threshold sound.

For a 50 dB sound this gives us

I = I0 * 10^(50/10) = I0 * 10^5 = 100,000 I0. The sound is 100,000 times the intensity of the hearing threshold sound.

For an 80 dB sound this gives us

}I = I0 * 10^(80/10) = I0 * 10^8 = 100,000,000 I0. The sound is 100,000,000 times the intensity of the hearing

threshold sound.

For a 100 dB sound this gives us

I = I0 * 10^(100/10) = I0 * 10^10 = 10,000,000,000 I0. The sound is 10,000,000,000 times the intensity of the

hearing threshold sound. **

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Question: `qWhat equation you would solve to find the intensity for decibel levels of 35, 83 and 117 dB.

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Your solution:

35 = 10 log(x)

10^3.5 = 3162.28

83 = l0 log(x)

10 ^ 8.3 = 199526231.497

117 = 10 log(x)

10^11.7 = 501187233627

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Given Solution:

`a** the equation to find I is dB = 10 log(I / I0) so the equations would be

35 = 10 log(I / I0)

83 = 10 log(I / I0)

117 = 10 log(I / I0).

The solution for I in the equation dB = 10 log(I / I0) is

I = I0 * 10^(dB/10). For the given values we would get solutions

10^(35/10) I0 = 3162.3 I0

10^(83/10) I0 = 199526231.5 I0

10^(117/10) I0 = 501187233627 I0 **

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Question: `q9. is log(x^y) = x log(y) valid? If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. This should be y log (x)

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Given Solution:

`a** log(a^b) = b log a so log(x^y) should be y log (x), not x log(y). **

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Question: `qis log(x/y) = log(x) - log(y) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

Yes this is valid. Log inverse, exponent law.

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Given Solution:

`aYes , this is valid. It is the inverse of the exponential law a^x / a^y = a^(x-y).

STUDENT COMMENT

I can verify these just fine if I have a copy of the laws in front of me; but I don't see any way to remember them all.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Let's look at a way to understand the laws.

log( x * y ) = log(x) + log(y).

For example if x = 1000 and y = 100:

x * y = 1000 * 100 = 10^3 * 10^2 = 10^(3 + 2) = 10^5 so log(x * y) = log(10^5) = 5.

log(x) = log(100) = log(10^2) = 2, so log(x) = 2.

log(y) = log(1000) = log(10^3) = 3, so log(y) = 3.

log(x) + log(y) = 2 * 3 = 5, and log(x * y) = 5.

So for this example we have verified that log(x * y) = log(x) + log(y).

If we think about it we also see why this must be true. When we multiply x * y the exponents of these numbers add. Since the log is the exponent, the logs therefore add.

log(x / y) = log(x) - log(y).

For example if x = 1000 and y = 100:

x / y = 1000 / 100 = 10^3 / 10^2 = 10^(3 - 2) = 10^1, so log(x / y) = log(10^1) = 1.

log(x) - log(y) = 3 - 2 = 1.

This verifies the law, and shows how it is connected to the law of exponents for division.

log(x^a) = a log(x).

For example if x = 1000 and a = 5:

log(x^a) = log(1000 ^ 5) = log( (10^3)^5 ) = log(10^15) = 15.

a log(x) = 5 * log(10^3) = 5 * 3 = 15.

This verifies the law and shows how it is connected to the law of exponents for powers of a number.

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Question: `qis log (x * y) = log(x) * log(y) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. Correct way is log(x) + log(y)

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Given Solution:

`aNo. log(x * y) = log(x) + log(y)

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Question: `qis 2 log(x) = log(2x) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. Should be log(x^2)

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Given Solution:

`a** log(a^b) = b log a so 2 log(x) = log(x^2), not log(2x). **

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Question: `qis log(x + y) = log(x) + log(y) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. log(x) + log(y) = log(xy)

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Given Solution:

`a** log(x) + log(y) = log(xy), not log(x+y). **

STUDENT QUESTION:

I understand that log(x) + log(y) isn't log(x + y), because the rule says that log(x) + log(y) = log(x y).

Still it looks like log(x) + log(x) should be log(x + y), and I'm having trouble keeping this straight.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

Another way to see that it's not so is to use numbers.

log(1000) = 3 and log(100) = 2, so log(1000) + log(100) = 3 + 2 = 5.

However log(1000 + 100) = log(1100). Since 1100 is between 10^3 = 1000 and 10^4 = 10 000, log(1100) is between 3 and 4. (Also since 1100 is a whole lot closer to 1000 than to 10 000, we know that log(1100) is a lot closer to 3 than to 4).

In any case, log(1000 + 100) certainly isn't 5.

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Question: `qis log(x) + log(y) = log(xy) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

Yes it is valid

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Given Solution:

`aThis is value. It is inverse to the law of exponents a^x*a^y = a^(x+y)

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Question: `qis log(x^y) = (log(x)) ^ y valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. log(x^y) = y log(x)

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Given Solution:

`aNo. log(x^y) = y log (x).

This is the invers of the law (x^a)^b = x^(ab)

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Question: `qis log(x - y) = log(x) - log(y) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. log(x) - log(y) = log(x/y)

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Given Solution:

`aNo. log(x)-log(y) = log x/ log y, not log(x-y).

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Question: `qis 3 log(x) = log(x^3) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

Yes this is valid

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Given Solution:

`aYes. log(x^a) = a log(x).

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Question: `qis log(x^y) = y + log(x) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. log(x^y) = y log(x)

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Given Solution:

`aNo. log(x^y) = y log(x).

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Question: `qis log(x/y) = log(x) / log(y) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. log(x/y) = log(x) - log(y)

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Given Solution:

`aNo. log(x/y) = log(x) - log(y).

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Question: `qis log(x^y) = y log(x) valid. If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

Yes this is valid

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Given Solution:

`aThis is valid.

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Question: `q10. what do you get when you simplify log {base 8} (1024)? If it can be evaluated exactly, what is the result and how did you get it?

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Your solution:

Log {base 8} (1024)

Log 1024/base 8

3.333

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Given Solution:

`aCOMMON ERROR: log {base 8} (1024) = Log (1024) / Log (8) = 3.33333

EXPLANATION:

log {base 8} (1024) = Log (1024) / Log (8) is correct, but 3.33333 is not an exact answer.

log {base 8 } (1024) = log {base 8 } (2^10).

Since 8 = 2^3, 2^10 = 2^(3 * 10/3) = (2^3)^(10/3) = 8^(10/3).

Thus log {base 8} 1024 = log{base 8} 8^(10/3) = 10/3.

Note that 10/3 is not exactly equal to 3.33333. You need to give exact answers where possible.

STUDENT QUESTION

I recognized from computer terms that 8 and 1024 were related, but I wasn't sure how they

could be brought to the same level so to speak for the logs to be evaluated into fractions. I think this is the confusing bit

for me: 2^10 = 2^(3 * 10/3). I see that 3*10/3 = 10, but I'm not sure how you arrived at making this relationship.

Could you provide a little more explanation?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

We want to find what power of 8 is equal to 1024. We know that 8 = 2^3 and 1024 = 2^10.

So the question becomes:

• what power of 2^3 is 2^10?

We can reason out the answer as indicated, but I would agree if you said that isn't something that will naturally occur to most students. Alternatively we can let p be the power we're looking for and write

• (2^3)^p = 2^10.

We easily enough solve this by applying the laws of exponents. Since (2^3)^p = 2^(3 p) we get

• 2^(3 p) = 2^10 so that

• 3 p = 10 and

• p = 10/3.

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After reading your response from the student response, I now understand. I originally didn’t understand how to get the relationship of 2^3 and 2^10. Putting into the terms of 2^(3p) = 2^10. That makes more sense to me than the original answer given.

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Question: `qwhat do you get when you simplify log {base 2} (4 * 32)? If it can be evaluated exactly, what is the result and how did you get it?

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Your solution:

Log{base 2}(4 * 32)

2^1 = 2^7

2^1p = 2^7

1p = 2^7

P = 7

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Given Solution:

`a** log{base 2}(4*32) = log{bse 2}(2^2 * 2^5) = log{base 2}(2^7) = 7. **

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Question: `qwhat do you get when you simplify log (1000)? If it can be evaluated exactly, what is the result and how did you get it?

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Your solution:

Log(1000) = 10^3 = 3

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Given Solution:

`aSince 10^3 = 1000, we have log (1000) = 3

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Question: `qwhat do you get when you simplify ln(3xy)? If it can be evaluated exactly, what is the result and how did you get it?

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Your solution:

Ln (3xy)

Ln(3) + ln(x) + ln(y)

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Given Solution:

`a ln(3xy) = ln (3) + ln(x) + ln(y) = 1.0986 + ln(x) + ln(y)

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I needed to figure ln(3) and did not. Noted. 1.0986

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Question: `qwhat do you get when you simplify log(3) + log(7) + log(41)? If it can be evaluated exactly, what is the result and how did you get it?

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Your solution:

Log(3) + log(7) + log(41)

Log(3*7*41) = log(861) = 2.935. Does not go into 10, so not an exact result.

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Given Solution:

`a log(3) + log(7) + log(41) = log (3*7*41). 3 * 7 * 41 is not a rational-number power of 10 so this can't be evaluated

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Question: `q11. Show how you used the given values to find the logarithm of 12. Explain why the given values don't help much if you want the log of 17.

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Your solution:

Log(2)=.301

Log(3)=.477

Log(5) = .699

Log(7)= .845

Log(12) = 2*2*3 = .301+.301+477 = 1.079

Log(4) = 2*2 = .301+.301=.602

Log(6) = 2*3 = .301+.477 = .778

Log(8) = 2*2*2= .301+.301+.301 = .903

Log(9) = 3*3=.477+.477=.954

Log(17) = cannot due to not being able to multiply any number into it except for 1

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`a** The problem was as follows: Given that log(2) = .301, log(3) = .477, log(5) = .699, log(7) = .845, find log(4),

log(6), log(8), and log(9). Use the given values to find the logarithm of every possible integer between 11 and 20.

To get log(12), given the logs of 2, 3, 5 and 7, you have to break 12 down into a product of these numbers.

Since 12 = 2 * 2 * 3 we have

log(12) = log(2) + log(2) + log(3) = .301 + .301 + .477 = 1.079.

Your calculator will confirm this result. **

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Question: `q12. What do you get when you solve 3 ^ (2x) = 7 ^ (x-4), and how did you solve the equation?

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Your solution:

Log(3^2x) = log(7^x-4)

2x log(3) = x-4 log(7)

2x log(3) = x log(7) - 4 log(7)

2x log(3) - x log(7) = -4 log(7)

x log(3) - x log(7) = -4 log (7)

x log (-4) = -4 log (7)

x = -4 log(7) / log (-4)

x = error ?????

not sure what I did wrong here?

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Given Solution:

`a ** log[3^(2x)]= log [7^(x-4)]. Using the laws of logarithms we get

2xlog(3)= (x-4) log(7). The distributive law gives us

2xlog(3)= xlog(7)- 4log(7). Rearranging to get all x terms on one side we get

2xlog(3)- xlog(7)= -4log(7). Factor x out of the left-hand side to get

x ( 2 log(3) - log(7) ) = -4 log(7) so that

x = -4 log(7) / [ 2 log(3) - log(7) ].

Evaluating this we get x = -31, approx. **

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When I factored x out of the left-hand side, I did the distribution wrong (I didn’t distribute haha) I subtracted when I needed to distribute the x as x (2 log(3) - log(7) which wouldn’t give me a log (-4) as I had. This is understood and notes fixed.

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Question: `qWhat do you get when you solve 2^(3x) + 2^(4x) = 9, and how did you solve the equation?

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Your solution:

Log(2^3x) + log(2^4x) = log 9

3x log (2) + 4x log (2) = log 9

7x log (2) = log 9

x = log9 / 7 log (2)

x = .4509

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Given Solution:

`aCOMMON ERROR: 3xlog(2) + 4xlog(2) = 9

Explanation:

Your equation would require that log( 2^(3x) + 2^(4x) ) = log(2^(3x) ) + log(2^(4x)).

This isn't the case. log(a + b) is not equal to log(a) + log(b). log(a) + log(b) = log(a * b), not log(a + b).

If this step was valid you would have a good solution.

However it turns out that this equation cannot be solved exactly for x. The best we can do is certain sophisticated forms

of trial and error. **

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I thought I was doing this wrong but wasn’t 100% sure how to go about it. I see that log a + log b does not equal log(a+b) and I knew this……that’s why I was questioning myself.

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Question: `qWhat do you get when you solve 3^(2x-1) * 3^(3x+2) = 12, and how did you solve the equation?

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Your solution:

2x - 1 log (3) + 3x + 2 log (3) = log 12

5x +1 log(3) =log 12

5x + 1 = log12 / log(3)

5x = log 12/log3 - 1

x = (log 12/ log3 - 1)/5

x = .25241

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Given Solution:

`a** 3^(2x-1) * 3^(3x+2) = 12. Take log of both sides:

log{3} [3^(2x-1) * 3^(3x+2)] = log{3} 12. Use log(a*b) = log(a) + log(b):

log{3}(3^(2x-1)) + log{3}(3^(3x+2) = log{3} 12. Use laws of logs:

(2x-1) + (3x+2) = log{3} 12. Rearrange the left-hand side:

5x + 1 = log{3}12. Subtract 1 from both sides then divide both sides by 5:

x = (log {3}(12) -1)/ 5. Use the fact that log{b}(x) = log x / (log b) to get

x = (log(12) / log(3) - 1) / 5. Evaluate using calculator:

x = .2524 **

Alternate solution:

log[3^(2x-1) * 3^(3x+2)] = log (12)

Starting with

3^(2x-1) * 3^(3x+2) = 12, take the log of both sides to get

log(3^(2x-1) * 3^(3x + 2) ) = log(12). Using log(xy) = log x + log y we get

log(3^(2x-1)) + log( 3^(3x + 2) ) = log 12. Using log(x^a) = a log x we get

(2x-1) log 3 + (3x+2) log 3 = log 12. Factor log 3 on the left to get

(2x - 1 + 3x + 2) log 3 = log 12 so that

5x + 1 = log(12) / log(3). Solve for x, obtaining

x = ( log(12) / log(3) - 1) / 5, as before. Evaluate to get

x = .2524, approx..

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Question: `qquery fitting exponential functions to data

1. what is the exponential function of form A (2^(k t) ) such that the graph passes thru points (-4,3) and (7,2), and what

equations did you solve to obtain your result?

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Your solution:

I’m not sure between a, k, and t where my basic points will go for which variable. I know to solve you would do so by using both equations and divide one from the other, then use the log form to solve for the unknown variables.

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`a** Recall when we substituted the coordinates of three points into the form y = a x^2 + b x + c of a quadratic, then solved the resulting system of three linear equations to get the values of a, b and c. We do something similar here, but this time the form is y = A * 2^(kx). Our two unknowns will be A and k, and we will only require two equations to solve for our two unknowns. We therefore need only two points.

Substituting data points into the form y = A * 2^(kx) we get

3 = A * 2^(-4k) (from the data point (-4,3)) and

2 = A * 2^( 7k) (from the data point (7,2)).

When we solved the three equations for the quadratic model, we added multiples of equations in order to eliminate variables. However adding multiples of equations doesn't work here. What does work is dividing one equation by another, which eliminates the variable A.

Dividing the first equation by the second we get

3/2 = A * 2^(-4k) / (A * 2^(7k) ), which simplifies to

1.5 = 2^(-4k)/ 2^(7k).

Now by the laws of exponents 2^(-4k)/ 2^(7k) = 2^(-4-7k)= 2^(-11 k), so that

log(2^(-11 k)) = log(1.5) and

-11 k * log(2) = log 1.5. We solve this for k, obtaining

k = log(1.5) / (-11 log(2)).

Evaluating with a calculator we find that k = -.053, approx..

Just as we did when solving for the quadratic model, once we have evaluated an unknown we substitute that value into our original equations.

Our first equation was 3 = A * 2^(-4k), which is easily solve for A to give us

A = 3 / (2 ^(-4k) ).

Substituting k = -.053 we get

A= 3/ 1.158 = 2.591.

Now we know the values of both A and k, which we substitute into our form y = A * 2^(kx) to obtain our model

y = 2.591(2^-.053t). **

STUDENT COMMENT:

I'm trying, but I just don't understand the given solution.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

You've understood just about everything up to this point.

Here's an expanded solution, with some questions you should consider. You are welcome to submit a copy of this part and insert your responses, indicated by #$&* before and after each insertion:

Recall when we substituted the coordinates of three points into the form y = a x^2 + b x + c of a quadratic, then solved the resulting system of three linear equations to get the values of a, b and c. We do something similar here, but this time the form is y = A * 2^(kx). Our two unknowns will be A and k, and we will only require two equations to solve for our two unknowns. We therefore need only two points. Substituting data points into the form y = A * 2^(kx) we get 3 = A * 2^(-4k) (from the data point (-4,3)) and 2 = A * 2^( 7k) (from the data point (7,2)).

Do you understand how the given points and the form y = A * 2^(k x) leads to these equations?

When we solved the three equations for the quadratic model, we added multiples of equations in order to eliminate variables. However adding multiples of equations doesn't work here. What does work is dividing one equation by another, which eliminates the variable A. Dividing the first equation by the second we get 3/2 = A * 2^(-4k) / (A * 2^(7k) ), which simplifies to 1.5 = 2^(-4k)/ 2^(7k).

Do you understand how dividing the equation 3 = A * 2^(-4k) by the equation 2 = A * 2^( 7k) leads to the equation 1.5 = 2^(-4k)/ 2^(7k)?

Now by the laws of exponents 2^(-4k)/ 2^(7k) = 2^(-4-7k)= 2^(-11 k), so that log(2^(-11 k)) = log(1.5) and -11 k * log(2) = log 1.5. We solve this for k, obtaining k = log(1.5) / (-11 log(2)).

Do you understand how the right-hand side simplifies to 2^(-11 k), using the laws of exponents?

Evaluating with a calculator we find that k = -.053, approx.. Just as we did when solving for the quadratic model, once we have evaluated an unknown we substitute that value into our original equations. Our first equation was 3= A * 2^(-4k), which we easily solve for A to get A = 3 / (2 ^(-4k) ). Substituting k = -.053 we get A= 3/ 1.158 = 2.591.

Do you understand how substituting k = -.053 into the first equation leads to A = 2.591?

Now we know the values of both A and k, which we substitute into our form y = A * 2^(kx) to obtain our model y = 2.591(2^-.053t).

Do you understand that this is our original form y = A ( 2 * (k t) ), where A and k have been replaced by the values we obtained by solving the simultaneous equations?

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After reading through all of this, and working the problem out myself, it is still challenging, but I am understanding it. It’s very time consuming to do one of these problems. Trying to remember all the laws is hard.

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Question: `qwhat is the exponential function of form A e^(k2 t) such that the graph passes thru points thru points (-4,3) and (7,2) and how did you solve the equations to find this function?

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Your solution:

A e^kt

3 = A e^-4k

2 = A e^7k

3/2 = e^-4k / e^7k

1.5 = e^-11k

Not sure where to go with the e??? looking below. Not sure whether to use ln or log.

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Given Solution:

`a** Substituting data points into the form y = A * e^(kx) we get

3= A * e^(-4k) and

2= A * e^(7k)

Dividing the first equation by the second we get

1.5= e^(-4k)/ e^(7k)= e^(-4-7k)= 2^(-11k)

so that

ln(e^(-11k)) = ln(1.5) and

-11 k = 1.5 so that

k= ln(1.5) / (-11). Evaluating with a calculator:

k= -.037 approx.

From the first equation

A = 3 / (e ^(-4k) ). Substituting k = -.037 we get

A= 3/ 1.158 = 2.591.

So our form y = A * e^(kx) gives us

y= 2.591(e^-.039 t). **

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I am going over this step by step in my notes to completely understand. What I don’t understand, in the A = 3/e^-4*-.037. the next step you did was A = 3 / 1.158. How did you get 1.158???

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The expression should be

3/e^(-4*-.037), not 3/e^-4*-.037.

Without the sign of grouping you are not calculating e^(kx).

-4 * -.037 = .148.

So e^(-4 * -.037) = e^(.148) = 1.158.

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Question: `qwhat is the exponential function of form A b^t such that the graph passes thru points thru points (-4,3) and (7,2).

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Your solution:

3 = A b^-4

2 = A b^7

3/2 = b^-11

b = .96

3 = A .96^-4

3 = a 1.177

A = 2.55

y = 2.55 (.96^t)

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Given Solution:

`a** Our equations are

3= Ab^-4

2= Ab^7

3/2= Ab^-4/(Ab^7)

1.5= b^-11

b= .96

3= A * .96 ^ -4

3= A * 1.177

2.549= A

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Question: `q2. Find the exponential function corresponding to the points (5,3) and (10,2).

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Your solution:

3 = A (b^5)

2 = A (b^10)

3/2 = b^-5

B = .922

3 = A (.922^5)

3 = A .67

A = 4.48

y = 4.48 (.922^t)

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`a** Using y = A b^t we get equations

3= Ab^5

2= Ab^10

Dividing first by second:

3/2= Ab^5/(Ab^10).

1.5= b^-5

b= .922

Now A = 3 / b^5 = 3 / .922^5 = 4.5.

Our model is

y = 4.5 * .922^t. **

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Question: `qWhat are k1 and k2 such that b = e^k2 = 2^k1?

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Your solution:

.922 = e^k2

K2 = ln .922

K2 = -.081

.922 = 2^k1

Log.922 = log 2^k1

Log.922 / log2 = k1

K1 = -.116

A * 2^k1t = 4.5 * 2^-.116t

A * e^k2t = 4.5 e^-.081t

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Given Solution:

`a** .922 = e^k2 is directly solved by taking the natural log of both sides to get

k2 = ln(.922) = -.081.

.922= 2^k1 is solved as follows:

log(.922) = log(2) k1

k1 = log(.922) / log(2) = -.117 approx..

Using these values for k1 and k2 we get

}g(x) = A * 2^(k1 t) = 4.5 * 2^(-.117 t) and

h(x) = A e^(k2 t) = 4.5 e^(-.081 t). ****

STUDENT QUESTION

I understand the process but I'm a little lost as to what b = e^k2 = 2^k1 is supposed to tell

us. What are k1 and k2 and how are they related?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The form A e^(kx) is pretty standard for exponential functions. The main reason is that it's very easy to do calculus when the base is e; that's the most natural base to use for calculating rate-of-change functions; and that's why its inverse function is called the 'natural log').

The form A * 2^(kx) is useful because in this form we can easily calculate doubling time and/or halflife (using this form it's not hard to see why doubling time is the value of x such that k x = 1, halflife is the value of x such that kx = -1).

To get the relationship between k_2 and k_1:

Starting with e^k_2 = 2^k_1 , take the natural log of both sides to get

k_2 = ln(2^(k_1)) = k_1 ln(2).

Thus k_2 = k_1 ln(2), and that's the relationship between k_1 and k_2.

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Question: `q3. earthquakes measure R1 = 7.4 and R2 = 8.2.

What is the ratio I2 / I1 of intensity and how did you find it?

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Your solution:

R1 = log (I1/I0)

R2 = log (I2/I0)

I1/I0 = 10^R1 = 10^RI * I0

I2/I0 = 10^R2 = 10^R2 * I0

I2/I1

10^R2 * I0/ 10^R1 * I0

10^R2/10^R1

10^8.2 / 10^7.4

10^.8

6.3096

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Given Solution:

`a** R1 = log(I1 / I0) and R2 = log(I2 / I0) so

I1/I0 = 10^R1 and I1 = 10^R1 * I0 and

I2/I0 = 10^R2 and I2 = 10^R2 * I0 so

I2 / I1 = (I0 * 10^R2) / (I0 * 10^R1) = 10^R2 / 10^R1 = 10^(R2-R1).

So if R2 = 8.2 and R1 = 7.4 we have

I2 / I1 = 10^(R2 - R1) = 10^(8.2 - 7.4) = 10^.8 = 6.3 approx.

An earthquake with R = 8.2 is about 6.3 times as intense as an earthquake with R = 7.4. **

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Question: `q4. I2 / I1 ratios

If one earthquake as an R value 1.6 higher than another, what is the ratio I2 / I1?

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Your solution:

10^1.6 = 39.81

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Given Solution:

`a** As before I2 / I1 = 10^(R2-R1). If R2 is 1.6 greater than R1 we have R2 - R1 = 1.6 and

I2 / I1 = 10^1.6 = 40 approx.

An earthquake with R value 1.6 higher than another is 40 times as intense. **

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Question: `qIf one earthquake as an R value `dR higher than another, what is the ratio I2 / I1?

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Your solution:

10^dR

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Given Solution:

`a** As before I2 / I1 = 10^(R2-R1). If R2 is `dR greater than R1 we have R2 - R1 = `dR and

I2 / I1 = 10^`dR. **

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If you understand the assignment and were able to solve the previously given problems from your worksheets, you should be able to complete most of the following problems quickly and easily. If you experience difficulty with some of these problems, you will be given notes and we will work to resolve difficulties.

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Question: For what value of x will the value of the function y = log{base 3}(x) first reach 4?

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Your solution:

y = log {base3} (x)

x = 3^4

x = 81

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Question: Explain why the negative y axis is an asymptote for the function y = log{base 2}(x).

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Your solution:

This function is in the negative y axis because it is will have small positive values with large y negative values which gives a vertical asymptote in the negative y axis.

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Question: How can you determine, without the use of a calculator, the decibel level of a sound whose intensity is 10 000 times that of the hearing threshold?

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Your solution:

dB = 10 log (I/I0)

I/I0 = 10,000

Log(10,000) = 4

10^4 = 10,000

dB = 10 log (I/I0) = 10 * 4 = 40

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Question: Is log(x^y) = x ^ log(y) valid? If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

No. Correct way would be, y log(x)

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Question: Is log(x*y) = log(x) + log(y) valid? If so why, and if not why not?

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Your solution:

Yes this is valid

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Question: What do you get when you simplify log {base 8} (256)? If it can be evaluated exactly, what is the result and how did you get it?

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Your solution:

log {base 8} = 2^3

log(1024) = 2^10

2^3p = 2^10

3p = 10

p = 10/3

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Question: Solve the equation 7^(2x) = 3^(x+2).

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Your solution:

2x log (7) = x+2 log(3)

2x log (7) = x log(3) + 2 log(3)

2x log(7) - x log(3) = 2 log (3)

X (2 log(7) - log (3) = 2 log (3)

x = 2 log (3) / 2log (7) - log (3)

x = .954 / 1.69 -.477

x = .786

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Question: What is the exponential function of the form y = A b^x which passes through the points (4, 5) and (6, 125)?

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Your solution:

5 = A b^4

125 = A b^6

.04 = b^-2

B = 5

5 = A %^4

5 = A 625

A = .008

Y = .008 (5^x)

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