ball down ramp

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A ball is timed as it rolls from rest to the end of a ramp.  The slope of the ramp is varied.  Preliminary conclusions are drawn about the motion and the effect of ramp slope.  A subsequent lab exercise uses the data from this lab to reach additional conclusions.

Most students report completion times between 45 minutes and 75 minutes hour, with a few reporting times as short as 25 minutes or as long as 2 hours. Median time of completion is around 1 hour.

Timing Ball down Ramp

The picture below shows a ball near the end of a grooved steel track (this steel track is a piece of 'shelf standard'); the shelf standard is supported by a stack of two dominoes.  Your lab materials package contains two pieces of shelf standard; the shelf standard shown in the figure is white, but the one in your kit might be colored black, gold, silver or any of a variety of other colors.

If a ball rolls from an initial state of rest down three ramps with different slopes, the same distance along the ramp each time, do you think the time required to roll the length of the ramp will be greatest or least for the steepest ramp, or will the interval on the steepest ramp be neither the greatest nor the least?  Explain why you think you have correctly predicted the behavior of the system.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 For the steepest ramp I would expect the time to be the least. Because it would have a steeper rate coming down the ramp which would give it more acceleration.

 

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If we write down the slopes from least to greatest, next to the time intervals observed for those slopes, would you expect the time intervals to be increasing or decreasing, or do you think there would be no clear pattern?  Explain why you think you have correctly described the behavior of the numbers in the table.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 The intervals would be decreasing because based on my reasoning from the previous question the ramp with the greatest slope should have the quickest time. So as the slope decreases the time would increase.

 

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Set up the shelf standard ramp on a reasonably level table, using a piece of 30-cm shelf standard and a single domino under the high end of the ramp.  Position the dominoes so that the last .5 cm of the ramp extends beyond the point where the ramp contacts the domino,.and do the same in all subsequent setups.

Set the bracket on the table, touching the lower end of the ramp so that a ball rolling down the ramp will strike the bracket.. 

Mark a point about 3 cm below the top end of the ramp.  Place a domino on the ramp to its high end is at this point, and place the ball just above the domino, so the domino is holding it back.  Quickly pull the domino away from the ball so the ball begins to roll freely down the ramp.  Allow the ball to roll until it strikes the bracket.

The bracket will probably move a little bit.  Reset it at the end of the ramp.

Determine how far the ball rolled from release until it struck the bracket.

Now repeat, but this time use the TIMER.  The first click will occur at the instant you release the ball, the second at the instant the ball strikes the bracket.  Practice until you are as sure as you can be that you are clicking and pulling back the domino at the same instant, and that your second click is simultaneous with the ball striking the bracket.

When you are ready, do 5 trials 'for real' and record your time intervals.

Then reverse the system--without otherwise changing the position of the ramp, place the domino under the left end and position the bracket at the right end.

Time 5 trials with the ramp in this position.

In the space below, give the time interval for each trial, rounded to the nearest .001 second.  Give 1 trial on each line, so that you will have a total of 10 lines, the first 5 lines for the first system, then 5 lines for the second system. 

Beginning in 11th line give a short narrative description of what your data means and how it was collected.

Also describe what you were thinking, relevant to physics and the experiment, during the process of setting up the system and performing the trials.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 2.514

2.508

2.496

2.542

2.463

2.363

2.236

2.264

2.284

2.220

These are the time intervals that the ball took to roll down the ramp obtained by clocking the ball as it started rolling and then clocking it when it hit the bracket. I thinking about the slope of the ramp and the acceleration.

 

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Now place two dominoes under the right end and repeat the process, obtaining the time interval for each of 5 trials.

Then place the two dominoes under the left end and repeat once more.

Enter your 10 time intervals using the same format as before.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 1.445

1.319

1.426

1.319

1.426

1.329

1.348

1.414

1.384

1.422

 

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Repeat the preceding using 3 dominoes instead of 2.  Enter your 10 time intervals using the same format as before.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 .983

1.08

1.104

1.006

1.095

1.052

.988

1.124

1.03

1.027

 

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Repeat the preceding again, still using the 3 domino setup, but this time place a CD or a DVD disk (or something of roughly similar thickness) on the 'low' end of the ramp. You need time only 5 intervals, but if you prefer you may use 10.  Enter your 5 (or 10) time intervals using the same format as before.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 .987

1.044

1.012

1.077

1.08

 

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Repeat the preceding one last time, still using the 3 domino setup, but remove the disk and replace it with a piece of paper.  You need time only 5 intervals, but if you prefer you may use 10.  Enter your 5 (or 10) time intervals using the same format as before.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 1.061

1.014

1.118

1.054

1.052

 

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Do your results support or fail to support the hypotheses you stated in the first two questions, regarding the relationship between time intervals and slopes?  Explain.

 

Your answer (start in the next line):

 Yes, because the time intervals got shorter as the slope of the ramp got greater.

 

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How do you think the average velocity of the ball is related to the slope of the ramp? Explain in as much detail as possible.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 The greater the slope, rise/run, the higher the vAve.

 

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Speculate on what it is that causes the average velocity on these ramps to change with slope.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 The acceleration of the ball down the ramp which should get faster as the slope increases.

 

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How might you verify whether your speculations are indeed valid explanations?

Your answer (start in the next line):

 Calculate the aAve of the different trials

 

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Do your data conclusively show that the disk made a difference?

Your answer (start in the next line):

 No I didn’t see much difference in the time intervals

 

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Do your data conclusively show that the piece of paper made a difference?

Your answer (start in the next line):

 No

 

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Imagine that someone is placing different objects below the 'low' end of the ramp, and you are timing the ball.  Assume that somehow the object placed below the 'low' end is hidden from you in a way that does not interfere with the timing process. Compared to the thickness of the DVD, how thin would the object have to be before you would be unable, using the TIMER, to observe a difference in times down the ramp? 

Answer this question in the first line below.  Express your answer in multiples or fractions of the thickness of a disk.

Starting in the second line, explain how you came to your conclusion, based on the results you obtained in this experiment.  Also discuss how you could modify or refine the experiment, still using the TIMER, to distinguish the effect of the thinnest possible object placed under the 'low end.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 I didn’t see any difference when I had the end of the ramp propped up by about .1cm. So I guess you’d probably need more than .1cm to see a difference in interval times.

 

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Had you placed the disk below the 'low' end of the ramp in a 1-domino setup, do you think the difference in times would have been greater or less?  Do you think you would be better able distinguish the presence of a thinner object using the 1-domino setup, or the 3-domino setup?  Explain your reasoning below:

Your answer (start in the next line):

 No I don’t think you could distinguish between the 2 different setups, not with our timer program anyway.

 

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@& Do you think you would be more likely to distinguish the presence of a thinner object using the 1-domino setup, or the 3-domino setup? 

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Does the ball's velocity change more or less quickly with the 3-domino setup or the 1-domino setup?  Explain as best you can how you could use your results to support your answer.

Your answer (start in the next line):

 Changes more quickly with the 3 domino setup. My data shown that the greater the slope the quicker the timer intervals.

 

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@& You need to explain how you could use your results.

I agree that the conclusion seems obvious, but you need to show, or explain how to show, the connection between your data and your claim here.

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