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Question: `qprin phy and gen phy problem 4.02 net force 265 N on bike and rider accelerates at 2.30 m/s^2, mass of bike and rider

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`aA force Fnet acting on mass m results in acceleration a, where a = Fnet / m. We are given Fnet and a, so we can solve the equation to find m.

Multiplying both sides by m we get

a * m = Fnet / m * m so

a * m = Fnet. Dividing both sides of this equation by a we have

m = Fnet / a = 265 N / (2.30 m/s^2) = 115 (kg m/s^2) / (m/s^2) = 115 kg.

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Question: `qprin phy and gen phy problem 4.07 force to accelerate 7 g pellet to 125 m/s in .7 m barrel

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`a** The initial velocity of the bullet is zero and the final velocity is 125 m/s. If we assume uniform acceleration (not necessarily the case but not a bad first approximation) the average velocity is (0 + 125 m/s) / 2 = 62.5 m/s and the time required for the trip down the barrel is .7 m / (62.5 m/s) = .011 sec, approx..

Acceleration is therefore rate of velocity change = `dv / `dt = (125 m/s - 0 m/s) / (.011 sec) = 11000 m/s^2, approx..

The force on the bullet is therefore F = m a = .007 kg * 11000 m/s^2 = 77 N approx. **

STUDENT COMMENT:

I did my answer a different way and came up with a number just off of this. I calculated 78 and this solution shows an answer of 77, but I am positive that I did my work right.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The results of my numerical calculations are always to be regarded as 'fuzzy'. The calculations are done mentally and there is often no intent to be exact. This at the very least encourages students to do the arithmetic and think about significant figures for themselves.

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Question: `qgen phy 4.08. A fish is being pulled upward. The breaking strength of the line holding the fish is 22 N. An acceleration of 2.5 m/s^2 breaks the line. What can we say about the mass of the fish?

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Given Solution:

`aThe fish is being pulled upward by the tension, downward by gravity. The net force on the fish is therefore equal to the tension in the line, minus the force exerted by gravity. In symbols, Fnet = T - M g, where M is the mass of the fish. (We use capital M for the mass of the fish to distinguish the symbol for mass from the symbol m for meter).

To accelerate a fish of mass M upward at 2.5 m/s^2 the net force must be Fnet = M a = M * 2.5 m/s^2. Combined with the preceding we have the condition

M * 2.5 m/s^2 = T - M g so that to provide this force we require

T = M * 2.5 m/s^2 + M g = M * 2.5 m/s^2 + M * 9.8 m/s^2 = M * 12.3 m/s^2.

We know that the line breaks, so the tension must exceed the 22 N breaking strength of the line. So T > 22 N. Thus

M * 12.3 m/s^2 > 22 N. Solving this inequality for m we get

M > 22 N / (12.3 m/s^2) = 22 kg m/s^2 / (12.3 m/s^2) = 1.8 kg.

The fish has a mass exceeding 1.8 kg.

STUDENT QUESTION

I had trouble understanding this question to begin with. I am a little confused on why the net force equals an acceleration of 12.3.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

F_net = M a = M * 2.5 m/s^2, as expressed in the equation F_net = T - m g so that

• M * 2.5 m/s^2 = T - M g.

It is the tension, not the net force, that ends up with a factor of 12.3 m/s^2:

• T = F_net + M g = M * 2.5 m/s^2 + M * 9.8 m/s^2, which is where the 12.3 m/s^2 comes from.

Nothing actually accelerates at 12.3 m/s^2, just as nothing in this system accelerates at 9.8 m/s^2.

• 9.8 m/s^2 is the acceleration of gravity so M * 9.8 m/s^2 is the force exerted by gravity on the fish.

• M * 2.5 m/s^2 is the net force on the fish.

• To not only pull the fish upward against gravity, but to also accelerate it at 2.5 m/s^2, requires a tension force of M * 2.5 m/s^2 in addition to the force required to overcome gravity.

Thus the tension force is M * 2.5 m/s^2 + M * 9.8 m/s^2 = M * 12.3 m/s^2.

STUDENT QUESTION

So the T does not really factor out of the equation it is just known that it is greater thatn or less than the Fnet?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

• Fnet is M * 2.5 m/s^2.

• We know that T = M * 12.3 m/s^2.

• We know that since the string breaks T is at least 22 N.

So M * 12.3 m/s^2 is at least 22 N, and M must be at least 22 N / 12.3 m/s^2 = 1.8 kg.

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Question: `quniv phy 4.42 (11th edition 4.38) parachutist 55 kg with parachute, upward 620 N force. What are the weight and acceleration of parachutist?

620N/55kg= 11.3m/s^2

55kg * 9.8m/s^2= 539N

620N - 539N= 81N

11.3m/s^2 - 9.8m/s^2= 1.5m/s^2

81N/1.5m/s^2= 54kg

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Question: `qDescribe the free body diagram you drew.

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I chose the -y axis to be the direction the parachutist is falling, with the parachutist and parachute weighing 55kg. They have a downward force, draw a line pointing down for this force. There is a upward force of 620N opposing the parachutist, so it is opposite the parachutist. Draw a line pointing up for this force.

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`aThe weight of the parachutist is 55 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 540 N, approx.. So the parachutist experiences a downward force of 540 N and an upward force of 620 N. Choosing upward as the positive direction the forces are -540 N and + 620 N, so the net force is

-540 + 620 N = 80 N.

Your free body diagram should clearly show these two forces, one acting upward and the other downward. The acceleration of the parachutist is a = Fnet / m = +80 N / (55 kg) = 1.4 m/s^2, approx..

STUDENT COMMENT

I am having a hard time still yet understanding conversions, Ex) kg*m/s^2 = N, these hard for me to compute. they are not as hard since zi’ve been working with them but I am still having some trouble. 
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

force = mass * acceleration, so the unit of force is the unit of mass * the unit of acceleration, i.e., kg * (m/s^2).

We call this a Newton, but if you go back to the basic law you see why the basic unit is kg * m/s^2.

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I did a little bit more than was necessary, but I get the idea.

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Question: `quniv phy (4.34 10th edition) A fish hangs from a spring balance, which is in turn hung from the roof of an elevator. The balance reads 50 N when the elevator is accelerating at 2.45 m/s^2 in the upward direction.

What is the net force on the fish when the balance reads 50 N?

What is the true weight of the fish, under what circumstances will the balance read 30 N, and what will the balance read after the cable holding the fish breaks?

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50N/(9.8m/s^2 + 2.45m/s^2)= 4.1kg

4.1kg * 2.45m/s^2= 40.2N

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Given Solution:

`a** Weight is force exerted by gravity.

Net force is Fnet = m * a. The forces acting on the fish are the 50 N upward force exerted by the cable and the downward force m g exerted by gravity.

So m a = 50 N - m g, which we solve for m to get

m = 50 N / (a + g) = 50 N / (2.45 m/s^2 + 9.8 m/s^2) = 50 N / 12.25 m/s^2 = 4 kg.

If the balance reads 30 N then

F_net = m a = 30 N - m g = 30 N - 4 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = -9.2 N so

a = -9.2 N / (4 kg) = -2.3 m/s^2; i.e., the elevator is accelerating downward at 2.3 m/s^2.

If the cable breaks then the fish and everything else in the elevator will accelerate downward at 9.8 m/s^2. Net force will be -m g; net force is also Fbalance - m g. So

-m g = Fbalance - m g and we conclude that the balance exerts no force. So it reads 0. **

STUDENT COMMENT

I totally messed this problem up. I still have a hard time knowing how to setup my problems, but I understand solution

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

There are usually numerous ways to set up a given problem.
In the case of this problem you want to start with Newton's Second Law, which you did.
Having calculated the net force you could have set it equal to 50 N - m g, which would have given you

• 12.5 N = 50 N - m g

with solution

• m = (50 N - 12.5 N) / g = (50 N - 12.5 N) / (9.8 m/s^2) = 4 kg, very approximately

The symbolic equation would be

• m a = T - m g

with solution

• m = T / (a + g)

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I’m not getting all of this at the moment, it is confusing setting the thing up right. I can follow you answer, but I can’t get there by myself.

@& The general procedure:

The bottom line is Newton's Second Law, F_net = m a.

Find an expression for the net force in terms of the forces involved.

Set this equal to mass * acceleration.

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`qSTUDENT QUESTION:

I had trouble with the problems involving tension in lines. For example the Fish prob.

Prob#9 A person yanks a fish out of water at 4.5 m/s^2 acceleration. His line is rated at 22 Newtons Max, His line breaks, What is the mass of the fish.

Here's what I did.

Sum of F = Fup + F down

-22 N = 4.5 m/s^2 * m(fish) - 9.8 m/s^2 * m(fish)

-22N = -5.3 m/s^2 m(fish)

m(fish) = 4.2 kg

I know its wrong, I just don't know what to do.I had the same problem with the elevator tension on problem 17.

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Your solution:

22N/4.5m/s^2= 4.9kg

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Given Solution:

`a** Think in terms of net force.

The net force on the fish must be Fnet = m a = m * 4.5 m/s^2.

Net force is tension + weight = T - m g, assuming the upward direction is positive. So

T - m g = m a and

T = m a + m g. Factoring out m we have

T = m ( a + g ) so that

m = T / (a + g) = 22 N / (4.5 m/s^2 + 9.8 m/s^2) = 22 N / (14.3 m/s^2) = 1.8 kg, approx..

The same principles apply with the elevator. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

Still haven’t got much of a clue about how to begin solving these type of problems. Your explanation looks simple, and is, but I just need to think more about it.

@& See my preceding note for a general framework.*@

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