Rates

course MTH 174

9:34 p.m. 6/2/10 Be sure to look at question 8. I found a problem with it.

If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions at 

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Your solution, attempt at solution.  If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it.  This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution. 

 

001. Rates

 

Note that there are 10 questions in this assignment. The questions are of increasing difficulty--the first questions are fairly easy but later questions are very tricky. The main purposes of these exercises are to refine your thinking about rates, and to see how you process challenging information. Most students in most courses would not be expected to answer all these questions correctly; all that's required is that you do your best and follows the recommended procedures for answering and self-critiquing your work.

 

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Question:  If you make $50 in 5 hr, then at what rate are you earning money?

 

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Your solution: $50 over 5 hours is represented as 50/5 which reduces to 10/1 or $10 per hour.

  

  Confidence Assessment: 3

 

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Given Solution:

 

 

The rate at which you are earning money is the number of dollars per hour you are earning. You are earning money at the rate of 50 dollars / (5 hours) = 10 dollars / hour. It is very likely that you immediately came up with the $10 / hour because almost everyone is familiar with the concept of the pay rate, the number of dollars per hour. Note carefully that the pay rate is found by dividing the quantity earned by the time required to earn it. Time rates in general are found by dividing an accumulated quantity by the time required to accumulate it.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

 

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Self-critique rating #$&* 3

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Question: `q003.If you make $60,000 per year then how much do you make per month?

 

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Your solution: Here our initial rate is $60,000 over 12 months or 60,000/12 which then reduces to 5000/1 or $5000 per month.

 

 Confidence Assessment: 3

 

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Given Solution:

 

Most people will very quickly see that we need to divide $60,000 by 12 months, giving us 60,000 dollars / (12 months) = 5000 dollars / month. Note that again we have found a time rate, dividing the accumulated quantity by the time required to accumulate it.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

 Self-critique rating #$&* 3

 

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Question: `q004. Suppose that the $60,000 is made in a year by a small business. Would it be more appropriate to say that the business makes $5000 per month, or that the business makes an average of $5000 per month?

 

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Your solution:  It would be more appropriate to say average as revenues will most almost never be the same from one month to the next.

   

  

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Given Solution:

Small businesses do not usually make the same amount of money every month. The amount made depends on the demand for the services or commodities provided by the business, and there are often seasonal fluctuations in addition to other market fluctuations. It is almost certain that a small business making $60,000 per year will make more than $5000 in some months and less than $5000 in others. Therefore it is much more appropriate to say that the business makes and average of $5000 per month.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

 Self-critique rating #$&* 3

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Question: `q005. If you travel 300 miles in 6 hours, at what average rate are you covering distance, and why do we say average rate instead of just plain rate?

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Your solution: 300 miles in 6 hours can be represented as the rate 300/6 which reduces to 50/1 or 50 miles per hour, 50 mi/hr. Again we should say average as the rate in normal circumstances will almost never be constant.

   Confidence Assessment: 3

 

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Given Solution:

The average rate is 50 miles per hour, or 50 miles / hour. This is obtained by dividing the accumulated quantity, the 300 miles, by the time required to accumulate it, obtaining ave rate = 300 miles / ( 6 hours) = 50 miles / hour. Note that the rate at which distance is covered is called speed. The car has an average speed of 50 miles/hour. We say 'average rate' in this case because it is almost certain that slight changes in pressure on the accelerator, traffic conditions and other factors ensure that the speed will sometimes be greater than 50 miles/hour and sometimes less than 50 miles/hour; the 50 miles/hour we obtain from the given information is clearly and overall average of the velocities.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

  

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Question: `q006. If you use 60 gallons of gasoline on a 1200 mile trip, then at what average rate are you using gasoline, with respect to miles traveled?

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Your solution: The rate here is 60 gallons over 1200 miles or 60/1200 this reduces to 1/20 or 1 gallon per 20 miles more accurately though, we would say 0.05 gallons/mile.

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Given Solution:

The rate of change of one quantity with respect to another is the change in the first quantity, divided by the change in the second. As in previous examples, we found the rate at which money was made with respect to time by dividing the amount of money made by the time required to make it.

 

By analogy, the rate at which we use fuel with respect to miles traveled is the change in the amount of fuel divided by the number of miles traveled. In this case we use 60 gallons of fuel in 1200 miles, so the average rate it 60 gal / (1200 miles) = .05 gallons / mile.

 

Note that this question didn't ask for miles per gallon. Miles per gallon is an appropriate and common calculation, but it measures the rate at which miles are covered with respect to the amount of fuel used. Be sure you see the difference.

 

Note that in this problem we again have here an example of a rate, but unlike previous instances this rate is not calculated with respect to time. This rate is calculated with respect to the amount of fuel used. We divide the accumulated quantity, in this case miles, by the amount of fuel required to cover t miles. Note that again we call the result of this problem an average rate because there are always at least subtle differences in driving conditions that result in more or fewer miles covered with a certain amount of fuel.

 

It's very important to understand the phrase 'with respect to'. Whether the calculation makes sense or not, it is defined by the order of the terms.

 

In this case gallons / mile tells you how many gallons you are burning, on the average, per mile. This concept is not as familiar as miles / gallon, but except for familiarity it's technically no more difficult.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

STUDENT COMMENT

 

Very Tricky! I thought I had a rhythm going. I understand where I messed up. I am comfortable with the calculations.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

 

There's nothing wrong with your rhythm.

As I'm sure you understand, there is no intent here to trick, though I know most people will (and do) tend to give the answer you did.

 

My intent is to make clear the important point that the definition of the terms is unambiguous and must be read carefully, in the right order.
 

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

 Self-critique rating #$&* 3

 

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Question: `q007. The word 'average' generally connotes something like adding two quantities and dividing by 2, or adding several quantities and dividing by the number of quantities we added. Why is it that we are calculating average rates but we aren't adding anything?

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Your solution: Because we have so far been presented with totals rather than instantaneous values, or you could say the addition has already been done and we are dealing with the average value obtained by that operation.

 Confidence Assessment: 3

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Given Solution:

The word 'average' in the context of the dollars / month, miles / gallon types of questions we have been answering was used because we expect that in different months different amounts were earned, or that over different parts of the trip the gas mileage might have varied, but that if we knew all the individual quantities (e.g., the dollars earned each month, the number of gallons used with each mile) and averaged them in the usual manner, we would get the .05 gallons / mile, or the $5000 / month. In a sense we have already added up all the dollars earned in each month, or the miles traveled on each gallon, and we have obtained the total $60,000 or 1200 miles. Thus when we divide by the number of months or the number of gallons, we are in fact calculating an average rate.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

  Self-critique rating #$&* 3

 

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Question: `q008. In a study of how lifting strength is influenced by various ways of training, a study group was divided into 2 subgroups of equally matched individuals. The first group did 10 pushups per day for a year and the second group did 50 pushups per day for year. At the end of the year to lifting strength of the first group averaged 147 pounds, while that of the second group averaged 162 pounds. At what average rate did lifting strength increase per daily pushup?

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Your solution: This is worded ambiguously because we can't find the average rate of increase in lifting strength per pushup since we don't know the initial lifting strengths. All we can compare is how much more strength per extra pushup did group 2 gain over group 1. So group 2 did 40 extra pushups per day and they gained an extra 15 lbs. of lifting strength over the year because of it. So we need to know how much their strength increased on average per day which is 15 lbs./ 365 days or 0.0411 lbs/day. Now we know they did 40 extra pushups per day but we need to use the opposite of this that is 1 day/ 40 pushups then with some dimensional analysis we multiply 1 d/40 pushups by 0.0411 lbs/ day to get lbs increased per pushup which is 1.028x10^-3 lbs/pushup.

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Given Solution:

 

The second group had 15 pounds more lifting strength as a result of doing 40 more daily pushups than the first. The desired rate is therefore 15 pounds / 40 pushups = .375 pounds / pushup.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

STUDENT COMMENT:

 

I have a question with respect as to how the question is interpreted. I used the interpretation given in the solution 
to question 008 to rephrase the question in 009, but I do not see how this is the correct interpretation of the question as 
stated.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

 

This exercise is designed to both see what you understand about rates, and to challenge your understanding a bit with concepts that aren't always familiar to students, despite their having completed the necessary prerequisite courses.

 

The meaning of the rate of change of one quantity with respect to another is of central importance in the application of mathematics. This might well be your first encounter with this particular phrasing, so it might well be unfamiliar to you, but it is important, unambiguous and universal. 

You've taken the first step, which is to correctly apply the wording of the preceding example to the present question. 

You'll have ample opportunity in your course to get used to this terminology, and plenty of reinforcement.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): The given solution cannot be right because they did 40 extra pushups per day over the whole year not just 40 extra pushups over the whole year. This becomes clearer if we look at total extra pushups for the year which is 40 pushups/day over 365 days which is 14600 extra pushups. If they gained .375 lbs/pushup as the solution says they would gain a total of 14600 pushups * .375 lbs/pushup to get 5475 extra lbs. This is obviously not right. My solution however works out just right because when you multiply the 1.028x10^-3 lbs/pushup by the total pushups, 14600, you get 15 lbs which is the total gain that group 2 had over group 1. ########## I thought about this some more and it is a problem with units. The question says they did 40 extra pushups per day and that the strength gain was 15 lbs per year. The solution incorrectly tries to divide 15 lbs/year by 40 pushups/day. The units are wrong either the lbs/year needs to be converted to lbs/day or the pushups/day needs to be converted to pushups/year. I said this in my critique above but this is a simpler way of describing the problem.  

The units of the given solution would be lbs / daily pushup, rather than lbs / pushup. That adjective 'daily' is critical to the meaning.

In any case I very much like the detail in your thinking, and the fact that you're still thinking about the problem.

Whatever the resolution on this problem, the thinking you're doing about this idea will be beneficial to you.

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Self-critique rating #$&* 3

 

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Question: `q009. In another part of the study, participants all did 30 pushups per day, but one group did pushups with a 10-pound weight on their shoulders while the other used a 30-pound weight. At the end of the study, the first group had an average lifting strength of 171 pounds, while the second had an average lifting strength of 188 pounds. At what average rate did lifting strength increase with respect to the added shoulder weight?

 

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Your solution: Thankfully this problem does not have the same trouble as the last one. Group 2 had 20 extra lbs and gain an extra 17 lifting pounds because of it. The rate we want is lifting strength increase per extra shoulder weight so numerically we have 17/20 which reduces to 0.85 lifting strength lbs per extra shoulder lb. 

 Confidence Assessment: 3

 

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Given Solution:

The difference in lifting strength was 17 pounds, as a result of a 20 pound difference in added weight. The average rate at which strength increases with respect added weight would therefore be 17 lifting pounds / (20 added pounds) = .85 lifting pounds / added pound. The strength advantage was .85 lifting pounds per pound of added weight, on the average.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):OK

 Self-critique rating #$&* 3

 

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Question: `q010. During a race, a runner passes the 100-meter mark 12 seconds after the start and the 200-meter mark 22 seconds after the start. At what average rate was the runner covering distance between those two positions?

 

 

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Your solution: The distance covered in the interval was 100 meters and the time to travel that distance was 10 seconds. Division gives us our rate: 100 m/ 10 s and this reduces to give us an average rate of 10 m/s.  

 Confidence Assessment: 3

 

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Given Solution:

 The runner traveled 100 meters between the two positions, and required 10 seconds to do so. The average rate at which the runner was covering distance was therefore 100 meters / (10 seconds) = 10 meters / second. Again this is an average rate; at different positions in his stride the runner would clearly be traveling at slightly different speeds.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

STUDENT QUESTION

 

Is there a formula for this is it d= r*t or distance equal rate times time??????????????????

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

 

That formula would apply in this specific situation. 

The goal is to learn to use the general concept of rate of change. The situation of this problem, and the formula you quote, are just one instance of a general concept that applies far beyond the context of distance and time.

It's fine if the formula helps you understand the general concept of rate. Just be sure you work to understand the broader concept.

 

Note also that we try to avoid using d for the name of a variable.  The letter d will come to have a specific meaning in the context of rates, and to use d as the name of a variable invite confusion.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

   

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Question: `q011. During a race, a runner passes the 100-meter mark moving at 10 meters / second, and the 200-meter mark moving at 9 meters / second. What is your best estimate of how long it takes the runner to cover the 100 meter distance?

 

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Your solution: First find the average speed over the distance interval and that is (10+9)/2 = 9.5 m/s. Then we divide 100 m by 9.5 m/s to get the time needed to cover the 100 m. This gives 100/9.5= 10.5 seconds.

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Given Solution:

 At 10 meters/sec, the runner would require 10 seconds to travel 100 meters. However the runner seems to be slowing, and will therefore require more than 10 seconds to travel the 100 meters. We don't know what the runner's average speed is, we only know that it goes from 10 m/s to 9 m/s. The simplest estimate we could make would be that the average speed is the average of 10 m/s and 9 m/s, or (10 m/s + 9 m/s ) / 2 = 9.5 m/s. Taking this approximation as the average rate, the time required to travel 100 meters will be (100 meters) / (9.5 m/s) = 10.5 sec, approx.. Note that simply averaging the 10 m/s and the 9 m/s might not be the best way to approximate the average rate--for example we if we knew enough about the situation we might expect that this runner would maintain the 10 m/s for most of the remaining 100 meters, and simply tire during the last few seconds. However we were not given this information, and we don't add extraneous assumptions without good cause. So the approximation we used here is pretty close to the best we can do with the given information.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): I could have noted about the whole thing being an approximation as the given solution does.

  

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Question: `q012. We just averaged two quantities, adding them and dividing by 2, to find an average rate. We didn't do that before. Why we do it now?

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Your solution: Here we are given two 'instantaneous' values that is values at a specific point in time but we want to know what the value is over a period of time and to do this we find the average value over the interval. Before we were given the average values to begin with.

  

 Confidence Assessment: 3

 

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Given Solution:

In previous examples the quantities weren't rates. We were given the amount of change of some accumulating quantity, and the change in time or in some other quantity on which the first was dependent (e.g., dollars and months, miles and gallons). Here we are given 2 rates, 10 m/s and 9 m/s, in a situation where we need an average rate in order to answer a question. Within this context, averaging the 2 rates was an appropriate tactic.

 

You need to make note of anything in the given solution that you didn't understand when you solved the problem. If new ideas have been introduced in the solution, you need to note them. If you notice an error in your own thinking then you need to note that. In your own words, explain anything you didn't already understand and save your response as Notes.

 

STUDENT QUESTION:

 

I thought the change of an accumulating quantity was the rate?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: 

 

Quick response:  The rate is not just the change in the accumulating quantity; if we're talking about a 'time rate' it's the change in the accumulating quantity divided by the time interval (or in calculus the limiting value of this ratio as the time interval approaches zero).

 

More detailed response:  If quantity A changes with respect to quantity B, then the average rate of change of A with respect to B (i.e., change in A / change in B) is 'the rate'. If the B quantity is clock time, then 'the rate' tells you 'how fast' the A quantity accumulates. However the rate is not just the change in the quantity A (i.e., the change in the accumulating quantity), but change in A / change in B. 

For students having had at least a semester of calculus at some level:  Of course the above generalizes into the definition of the derivative. y ' (x) is the instantaneous rate at which the y quantity changes with respect to x. y ' (x) is the rate at which y accumulates with respect to x.

 

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Self-critique (if necessary): I should have noted about the rate aspect of values we have been given. 

 

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