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course Phy 202
2/17 11 pm
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Phy 202
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Way to long for labs, other classes too.
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The picture below shows a graduated cylinder containing water, with dark coloring (actually a soft drink). Water is flowing out of the cylinder through a short thin tube in the side of the cylinder. The dark stream is not obvious but it can be seen against the brick background.
You will use a similar graduated cylinder, which is included in your lab kit, in this experiment. If you do not yet have the kit, then you may substitute a soft-drink bottle. Click here for instructions for using the soft-drink bottle.
In this experiment we will observe how the depth of water changes with clock time.
In the three pictures below the stream is shown at approximately equal time intervals. The stream is most easily found by looking for a series of droplets, with the sidewalk as background.
Based on your knowledge of physics, answer the following, and do your best to justify your answers with physical reasoning and insight:
As water flows from the cylinder, would you expect the rate of flow to increase, decrease or remain the same as water flows from the cylinder?
Your answer (start in the next line):
decrease
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As water flows out of the cylinder, an imaginary buoy floating on the water surface in the cylinder would descend.
Would you expect the velocity of the water surface and hence of the buoy to increase, decrease or remain the same?
Your answer (start in the next line):
remain the same
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How would the velocity of the water surface, the velocity of the exiting water, the diameter of the cylinder and the diameter of the hole be interrelated? More specifically how could you determine the velocity of the water surface from the values of the other quantities?
Your answer (start in the next line):
A1 * v1 = A2 * v2 equation solved for one velocity
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The water exiting the hole has been accelerated, since its exit velocity is clearly different than the velocity it had in the cylinder.
Explain how we know that a change in velocity implies the action of a force?
Your answer (start in the next line):
because force is mass times velocity therefore so its inversely propertional to velocity
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Nothing is inversely proportional to velocity.
Newton's Second Law says that net force is equal to mass * acceleration.
So for a fixed force, mass would be inversely proportional to acceleration. That's not relevant in this situation because you probably won't model this as a mass and acceleration varying due to a fixed force, but it's still a good observation.
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What do you think is the nature of the force that accelerates the water from inside the cylinder to the outside of the outflow hole?
Your answer (start in the next line):
gravity
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The water plug is accelerated in the horizontal, not the vertical direction. That's not the direction of the gravitational force, so gravity is not the accelerating force.
Gravity is responsible for the accelerating force, but it's not the accelerating force. The accelerating force is the result of water pressure, which in this case is due to (but to repeat, not the same as) the gravitational force.
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From the pictures, answer the following and justify your answers, or explain in detail how you might answer the questions if the pictures were clearer:
Does the depth seem to be changing at a regular rate, at a faster and faster rate, or at a slower and slower rate?
Your answer (start in the next line):
you can't answer that due to you not knowing the time that the pictures are taking
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What do you think a graph of depth vs. time would look like?
Your answer (start in the next line):
x = time and y = depth, linearly
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Does the horizontal distance (the distance to the right, ignoring the up and down distance) traveled by the stream increase or decrease as time goes on?
Your answer (start in the next line):
decrease
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Does this distance change at an increasing, decreasing or steady rate?
Your answer (start in the next line):
steady
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What do you think a graph of this horizontal distance vs. time would look like? Describe in the language of the Describing Graphs exercise.
Your answer (start in the next line):
decreasing curve, as time increases distance decrease
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If the rate is steady, as asserted in your last answer, then this graph would be a straignt line.
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You can easily perform this experiment in a few minutes using the graduated cylinder that came with your kit. If you don't yet have the lab materials, see the end of this document for instructions an alternative setup using a soft-drink bottle instead of the graduated cylinder. If you will be using that alternative, read all the instructions, then at the end you will see instructions for modifying the procedure to use a soft drink bottle.
Setup of the experiment is easy. You will need to set it up near your computer, so you can use a timing program that runs on the computer. The cylinder will be set on the edge of a desk or tabletop, and you will need a container (e.g., a bucket or trash can) to catch the water that flows out of the cylinder. You might also want to use a couple of towels to prevent damage to furniture, because the cylinder will leak a little bit around the holes into which the tubes are inserted.
Your kit included pieces of 1/4-inch and 1/8-inch tubing. The 1/8-inch tubing fits inside the 1/4-inch tubing, which in turn fits inside the two holes drilled into the sides of the graduated cylinder.
Fit a short piece of 1/8-inch tubing inside a short piece of 1/4-inch tubing, and insert this combination into the lower of the two holes in the cylinder. If the only pieces of 1/4-inch tubing you have available are sealed, you can cut off a short section of the unsealed part and use it; however don't cut off more than about half of the unsealed part--be sure the sealed piece that remains has enough unsealed length left to insert and securely 'cap off' a piece of 1/4-inch tubing.
Your kit also includes two pieces of 1/8-inch tubing inside pieces of 1/4-inch tubing, with one end of the 1/8-inch tubing sealed. Place one of these pieces inside the upper hole in the side of the cylinder, to seal it.
While holding a finger against the lower tube to prevent water from flowing out, fill the cylinder to the top mark (this will be the 250 milliliter mark).
Remove your thumb from the tube at the same instant you click the mouse to trigger the TIMER program.
The cylinder is marked at small intervals of 2 milliliters, and also at larger intervals of 20 milliliters. Each time the water surface in the cylinder passes one of the 'large-interval' marks, click the TIMER.
When the water surface reaches the level of the outflow hole, water will start dripping rather than flowing continuously through the tube. The first time the water drips, click the TIMER. This will be your final clock time.
We will use 'clock time' to refer to the time since the first click, when you released your thumb from the tube and allowed the water to begin flowing.
The clock time at which you removed your thumb will therefore be t = 0.
Run the experiment, and copy and paste the contents of the TIMER program below:
Your answer (start in the next line):
1 1498.875 1498.875
2 1500.594 1.71875
3 1502.977 2.382813
4 1505.313 2.335938
5 1507.824 2.511719
6 1510.57 2.746094
7 1513.488 2.917969
8 1516.563 3.074219
9 1520.363 3.800781
10 1524.641 4.277344
11 1529.73 5.089844
12 1537.418 7.6875
13 1545.738 8.320313
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Measure the large marks on the side of the cylinder, relative to the height of the outflow tube. Put the vertical distance from the center of the outflow tube to each large mark in the box below, from smallest to largest distance. Put one distance on each line.
Your answer (start in the next line):
12
32
52
72
92
112
132
152
172
192
212
232
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Now make a table of the position of the water surface vs. clock time. The water surface positions will be the positions of the large marks on the cylinder relative to the outflow position (i.e., the distances you measured in the preceding question) and the clock times will as specified above (the clock time at the first position will be 0). Enter 1 line for each event, and put clock time first, position second, with a comma between.
For example, if the first mark is 25.4 cm above the outflow position and the second is 22.1 cm above that position, and water reached the second mark 2.45 seconds after release, then the first two lines of your data table will be
0, 25.4
2.45, 22.1
If it took another 3.05 seconds to reach the third mark at 19.0 cm then the third line of your data table would be
5.50, 19.0
Note that it would NOT be 3.05, 19.0. 3.05 seconds is a time interval, not a clock time. Again, be sure that you understand that clock times represent the times that would show on a running clock.
The second column of your TIMER output gives clock times (though that clock probably doesn't read zero on your first click), the third column gives time intervals. The clock times requested here are those for a clock which starts at 0 at the instant the water begins to flow; this requires an easy and obvious modification of your TIMER's clock times.
For example if your TIMER reported clock times of 223, 225.45, 228.50 these would be converted to 0, 2.45 and 5.50 (just subtract the initial 223 from each), and these would be the times on a clock which reads 0 at the instant of the first event.
Do not make the common error of reporting the time intervals (third column of the TIMER output) as clock times. Time intervals are the intervals between clicks; these are not clock times.
Your answer (start in the next line):
0, 232
1.72, 212
4.10, 192
6.44, 172
8.95, 152
11.7, 132
14.61, 112
17.69, 92
21.49, 72
25.77, 52
30.86, 32
38.54, 12
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You data could be put into the following format:
clock time (in seconds, measured from first reading) Depth of water (in centimeters, measured from the hole)
0
14
10
10
20
7
etc.
etc.
Your numbers will of course differ from those on the table.
The following questions were posed above. Do your data support or contradict the answers you gave above?
Is the depth changing at a regular rate, at a faster and faster rate, or at a slower and slower rate?
Your answer (start in the next line):
data supports my predictions and the depth changes at a slower and slower rate
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Sketch a graph of depth vs. clock time (remember that the convention is y vs. x; the quantity in front of the 'vs.' goes on the vertical axis, the quantity after the 'vs.' on the horizontal axis). You may if you wish print out and use the grid below.
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Describe your graph in the language of the Describing Graphs exercise.
Your answer (start in the next line):
a decreasing linear graph
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If depth decreases at a decreasing rate (which is clearly the case) then the graph isn't a straight line. A straight-line graph would be equivalent to a depth which changes at a constant rate.
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caution: Be sure you didn't make the common mistake of putting time intervals into the first column; you should put in clock times. If you made that error you still have time to correct it. If you aren't sure you are welcome to submit your work to this point in order to verify that you really have clock times and not time intervals
Now analyze the motion of the water surface:
For each time interval, find the average velocity of the water surface.
Explain how you obtained your average velocities, and list them:
Your answer (start in the next line):
average the velocity through the that point of time
1.72, 212
2.91, 192
4.09, 172
5.30, 152
6.58, 132
7.92, 112
9.32, 92
10.84, 72
12.5, 52
14.33, 32
16.53, 12
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This table appears to show the depth markings vs. clock time, or perhaps the depth vs. time interval.
This table doesn't show average velocity vs. midpoint clock time.
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0
123.26
46.8
26.7
17.0
11.3
7.67
5.2
3.35
2.01
1.04
0.311
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Your data were reported as follows:
0, 232
1.72, 212
4.10, 192
6.44, 172
8.95, 152
11.7, 132
14.61, 112
17.69, 92
21.49, 72
25.77, 52
30.86, 32
38.54, 12
The results you report here appear to be depths divided by clock times. For example 12 / 38.54 is about 0.31.
That is not an average velocity. 12 cm is not a change in deptn. 38.54 cm is a change in clock time, but not over one of the time intervals observed here. Had you divided (12 - 232) cm / (38.54 - 0) sec you would have obtained a single average velocity for the entire process, and that would not be an irrelevant calculation, but the quantity we need is an avearge velocity for each of the observed intervals.
Average velocity is defined as average rate of change of position with respect to clock time.
To get an average velocity you don't divide position by clock time, you divide change in position by change in clock time.
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Assume that this average velocity occurs at the midpoint of the corresponding time interval.
What are the clock times at the midpoints of your time intervals, and how did you obtain them? (Give one midpoint for each time interval; note that it is midpoint clock time that is being requested, not just half of the time interval. The midpoint clock time is what the clock would read halfway through the interval. Again be sure you haven't confused clock times with time intervals. Do not make the common mistake of reporting half of the time interval, i.e., half the number in the third column of the TIMER's output):
Your answer (start in the next line):
0.859
1.191
1.168
1.256
1.373
1.459
1.537
1.9
2.139
2.545
3.844
4.16
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Your clock times run from 0 to about 40 seconds. The clock continues to run. At the midpoints of the various intervals, the clock would read on into the 30's of seconds.
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Make a table of average velocity vs. clock time. The clock time on your table should be the midpoint clock time calculated above.
Give your table below, giving one average velocity and one clock time in each line. You will have a line for each time interval, with clock time first, followed by a comma, then the average velocity.
Your answer (start in the next line):
0.859, 0
1.191, 1.72
1.168, 2.91
1.256, 4.06
1.373, 5.3
1.459, 6.58
1.537, 7.92
1.9, 9.32
2.139, 10.84
2.545, 12.5
3.844, 14.33
4.16, 16.53
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The average velocity of the water surface does not increase in magnitude. It's not clear how your second-column quantities have been calculated, but they don't correspond with the water-surface velocities.
The first column, as noted previously, does not correspond to midpoint clock times.
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0, 0
0.86, 123.86
2.05, 46.8
3.22, 26.7
4.475, 17
5.85, 11.3
7.305, 7.67
8.845, 5.2
10.745, 3.35
12.885, 2.01
15.43, 1.04
19.27, 0.311
Took longer than expected because I needed to correct the clock midpoint and the average velocity, I see what the notes was saying now, it took me a while to figure out where I went astray.
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Sketch a graph of average velocity vs. clock time. Describe your graph, using the language of the Describing Graphs exercise.
Your answer (start in the next line):
increasing curve
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For each time interval of your average velocity vs. clock time table determine the average acceleration of the water surface. Explain how you obtained your acceleration values.
Your answer (start in the next line):
average the velocity through that point of time
0
0.86
1.54
2.17
2.8
3.43
4.07
4.73
5.41
6.12
6.86
7.67
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Make a table of average acceleration vs. clock time, using the clock time at the midpoint of each time interval with the corresponding acceleration.
Give your table in the box below, giving on each line a midpoint clock time followed by a comma followed by acceleration.
Your answer (start in the next line):
0.859, 0
1.191, 0.86
1.168, 1.54
1.256, 2.17
1.373, 2.8
1.459, 3.43
1.537, 4.07
1.9, 4.73
2.139, 5.41
2.545, 6.12
3.844, 6.86
4.16, 7.67
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Answer two questions below:
Do your data indicate that the acceleration of the water surface is constant, increasing or decreasing, or are your results inconclusive on this question?
Do you think the acceleration of the water surface is actually constant, increasing or decreasing?
Your answer (start in the next line):
increasing, I think it is actally constant
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Go back to your graph of average velocity vs. midpoint clock time. Fit the best straight line you can to your data.
What is the slope of your straight line, and what does this slope represent? Give the slope in the first line, your interpretation of the slope in the second.
How well do you think your straight line represents the actual behavior of the system? Answer this question and explain your answer.
Is your average velocity vs. midpoint clock time graph more consistent with constant, increasing or decreasing acceleration? Answer this question and explain your answer.
Your answer (start in the next line):
the slope is 5.18
it represents a increasing line
it represents the system to a good degree but it is off because of the uncertainities of the test and its variables
more consistent with increasing because the if you get the slope further down the line its larger
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Your instructor is trying to gauge the typical time spent by students on these experiments. Please answer the following question as accurately as you can, understanding that your answer will be used only for the stated purpose and has no bearing on your grades:
Approximately how long did it take you to complete this experiment?
Your answer (start in the next line):
a few hours
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You may add any further comments, questions, etc. below:
Your answer (start in the next line):
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You have good data, but starting with your reported velocity vs. midpoint clock time table it appears that you've gone astray.
Check my notes and see if, within 15 or 20 minutes, you can either clarify and revise that table or ask additional questions.
&#Please see my notes and, unless my notes indicate that revision is optional, submit a copy of this document with revisions and/or questions, and mark your insertions with &&&& (please mark each insertion at the beginning and at the end).
Be sure to include the entire document, including my notes.
If my notes indicate that revision is optional, use your own judgement as to whether a revision will benefit you.
Spend a reasonable amount of time on your revision, but don't let yourself get too bogged down. After a reasonable amount of time, if you don't have at least a reasonable attempt at a solution, insert the best questions you can showing me what you do and do not understand, and I'll attempt to clarify further.
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I'm going to have to ask you to correct your calculations of the average velocities, and your table for ave velocity vs. midpoint clock time. Check my note.
It's important to understand the definition of an average rate of change and apply it correctly, as this sort of calculation will crop up more than once in other contexts.
I'm not going to ask you to recalculate the accelerations, but be sure you know that those calculations do depend on correct average velocities.
The corrections will take you a few minutes but shouldn't require a major input of time. Three-significant-figure rounding is more than precise enough given the uncertainties of your observations.
On this revision use $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to mark your insertions rather than &&&&&&&&&&.
One more note: You didn't include your access code with this insertion. Fortunately I noticed and inserted it for you, but being focused on your work I generally don't notice when a code is missing. So to avoid having to resubmit an assignment, be sure you always include the code.
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I see that you did resubmit and include the code. Very good. I already responded to the initial submission, so unless there's a difference in the two documents my posted response should suffice.