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course 231

2/11; 8:45pm

Question: Explain how velocity is defined in terms of rates of change.

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Your solution:

Average velocity is the change in displacement wrt change in clock time.

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Given Solution: Average velocity is defined as the average rate of change of position with respect to clock time.

The average rate of change of A with respect to B is (change in A) / (change in B).

Thus the average rate of change of position with respect to clock time is

• ave rate = (change in position) / (change in clock time).

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Question: Why can it not be said that average velocity = position / clock time?

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Your solution:

Position is just one point, not displacement. Clock time is a point in time, not the time interval.

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Given Solution: The definition of average rate involves the change in one quantity, and the change in another.

Both position and clock time are measured with respect to some reference value. For example, position might be measured relative to the starting line for a race, or it might be measured relative to the entrance to the stadium. Clock time might be measure relative to the sound of the starting gun, or it might be measured relative to noon.

So position / clock time might, at some point of a short race, be 500 meters / 4 hours (e.g., 500 meters from the entrance to the stadium and 4 hours past noon). The quantity (position / clock time) tells you nothing about the race.

There is a big difference between (position) / (clock time) and (change in position) / (change in clock time).

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Question: Give your solution to the following, which should be in your notes: Find the approximate uncertainty in the area of a circle given that its radius is 2.8 * 10^4 cm.

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Your solution:

pi(2.85 * 10^4)^2 – pi(2.75 * 10^4)^2

2.55 * 10^9 – 2.38 * 10^9

1.7 * 10^8 / (2.8 * 10^4)^2 = .069 or 6.9%

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Given Solution:

** Radius 2.8 * 10^4 cm means that the radius is between 2.75 * 10^4 cm and 2.85 * 10^4 cm.

We regard 2.75 *10^4 cm as the lower bound and 2.85 *10^4 cm as the upper bound on the radius. 2.75 is .05 less than 2.8, and 2.85 is .05 greater than 2.8, so we say that the actual number is 2.8 +- .05.

• Thus we express the actual radius as (2.8 +- .05) * 10^4 cm, and we call .05 * 10^4 cm the uncertainty in the measurement.

The area of a circle is pi r^2, with which you should be familiar (if for no reason other than that you used it and wrote it down in the orientation exercises)..

With this uncertainty estimate, we find that the area is between a lower area estimate of pi * (2.75 * 10^4 cm)^2 = 2.376 * 10^9 cm^2 and and upper area estimate of pi * (2.85 * 10^4 cm)^2 = 2.552 * 10^9 cm^2.

• The difference between the lower and upper estimate is .176 * 10^9 cm^2 = 1.76 * 10^8 cm^2.

• The area we would get from the given radius is about halfway between these estimates, so the uncertainty in the area is about half of the difference.

• We therefore say that the uncertainty in area is about 1/2 * 1.76 * 10^8 cm^2, or about .88 * 10^8 cm^2.

Note that the .05 * 10^4 cm uncertainty in radius is about 2% of the radius, while the .88 * 10^8 cm uncertainty in area is about 4% of the area.

• The area of a circle is proportional to the squared radius.

• A small percent uncertainty in the radius gives very nearly double the percent uncertainty in the squared radius. **

STUDENT COMMENT:

I don't recall seeing any problems like this in any of our readings or assignments to this point

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The idea of percent uncertainty is presented in Chapter 1 of your text.

The formula for the area of a circle should be familiar.

Of course it isn't a trivial matter to put these ideas together.

STUDENT COMMENT:

I don't understand the solution. How does .176 * 10^9 become 1.76 * 10^8? I understand that there is a margin of error because of the significant figure difference, but don't see how this was calculated.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

.176 = 1.76 * .1, or 1.76 * 10^-1.

So .176 * 10^9 = 1.76 * 10^-1 * 10^9. Since 10^-1 * 10^9 = 10^(9 - 1) =10^8, we have

• .176 * 10^9 = 1.76 * 10^8.

The key thing to understand is the first statement of the given solution:

• Radius 2.8 * 10^4 cm means that the radius is between 2.75 * 10^4 cm and 2.85 * 10^4 cm.

This is because any number between 2.75 and 2.85 rounds to 2.8. A number which rounds to 2.8 can therefore lie anywhere between 2.75 and 2.85.

The rest of the solution simply calculates the areas corresponding to these lower and upper bounds on the number 2.8, then calculates the percent difference of the results.

STUDENT COMMENT: I understand how squaring the problem increases uncertainty and I understand the concept of

a range of uncertainty but I am having trouble figuring out how the range of 2.75 * 10^4 and 2.85*10^4 were established

for the initial uncertainties in radius.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The key is the first sentence of the given solution:

'Radius 2.8 * 10^4 cm means that the radius is between 2.75 * 10^4 cm and 2.85 * 10^4 cm.'

You know this because you know that any number which is at least 2.75, and less than 2.85, rounds to 2.8.

Ignoring the 10^4 for the moment, and concentrating only on the 2.8:

Since the given number is 2.8, with only two significant figures, all you know is that when rounded to two significant figures the quantity is 2.8. So all you know is that it's between 2.75 and 2.85.

STUDENT QUESTION

I honestly didn't consider the fact of uncertainty at all. I misread the problem and thought I

was simply solving for area. I'm still not really sure how to determine the degree of uncertainty.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Response to Physics 121 student:

This topic isn't something critical to your success in the course, but the topic will come up. You're doing excellent work so far, and it might be worth a little time for you to try to reconcile this idea.

Consider the given solution, the first part of which is repeated below, with some questions (actually the same question repeated too many times). I'm sure you have limited time so don't try to answer the question for every statement in the given solution, but try to answer at least a few. Then submit a copy of this part of the document.

Note that a Physics 201 or 231 student should understand this solution very well, and should seriously consider submitting the following if unsure. This is an example of how to take a solution phrase by phrase and self-critique in the prescribed manner.

** Radius 2.8 * 10^4 cm means that the radius is between 2.75 * 10^4 cm and 2.85 * 10^4 cm.

Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

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We regard 2.75 *10^4 cm as the lower bound and 2.85 *10^4 cm as the upper bound on the radius. 2.75 is .05 less than 2.8,

and 2.85 is .05 greater than 2.8, so we say that the actual number is 2.8 +- .05.

Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

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Thus we express the actual radius as (2.8 +- .05) * 10^4 cm, and we call .05 * 10^4 cm the uncertainty in the measurement.

Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

The area of a circle is pi r^2, with which you should be familiar (if for no reason other than that you used it and wrote it

down in the orientation exercises).

With this uncertainty estimate, we find that the area is between a lower area estimate of pi * (2.75 * 10^4 cm)^2 = 2.376 *

10^9 cm^2 and and upper area estimate of pi * (2.85 * 10^4 cm)^2 = 2.552 * 10^9 cm^2.

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Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

The difference between the lower and upper estimate is .176 * 10^9 cm^2 = 1.76 * 10^8 cm^2.

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Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

The area we would get from the given radius is about halfway between these estimates, so the uncertainty in the area is about

half of the difference.

We therefore say that the uncertainty in area is about 1/2 * 1.76 * 10^8 cm^2, or about .88 * 10^8 cm^2.

Note that the .05 * 10^4 cm uncertainty in radius is about 2% of the radius, while the .88 * 10^8 cm uncertainty in area is

about 4% of the area.

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Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

The area of a circle is proportional to the squared radius.

A small percent uncertainty in the radius gives very nearly double the percent uncertainty in the squared radius.

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Do you understand what this is saying, and why it is so? If not, tell me what you think you understand, what you are pretty sure you don't understand, and what you think you might understand but aren't sure.

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Question: What is your own height in meters and what is your own mass in kg (if you feel this question is too personal then estimate these quantities for someone you know)?

Explain how you determined these.

What are your uncertainty estimates for these quantities, and on what did you base these estimates?

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Your solution:

1.76 meters, 90.9 kg.

I divided my height in feet by 3.3 to get my height in meters, then I divided my weight by 2.2 to get my weight in kg.

About .7% on height, about .25% on weight.

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Given Solution:

Presumably you know your height in feet and inches, and have an idea of your ideal weight in pounds. Presumably also, you can convert your height in feet and inches to inches.

To get your height in meters, you would first convert your height in inches to cm, using the fact that 1 inch = 2.54 cm. Dividing both sides of 1 in = 2.54 cm by either 1 in or 2.54 cm tells us that 1 = 1 in / 2.54 cm or that 1 = 2.54 cm / 1 in, so any quantity can be multiplied by 1 in / (2.54 cm) or by 2.54 cm / (1 in) without changing its value.

Thus if you multiply your height in inches by 2.54 cm / (1 in), you will get your height in cm. For example if your height is 69 in, your height in cm will be 69 in * 2.54 cm / (1 in) = 175 in * cm / in.

in * cm / in = (in / in) * cm = 1 * cm = cm, so our calculation comes out 175 cm.

STUDENT SOLUTION

5 feet times 12 inches in a feet plus six inches = 66 inches. 66inches * 2.54 cm/inch = 168.64 cm. 168.64 cm *

.01m/cm = 1.6764 meters.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT:

Good, but note that 66 inches indicates any height between 65.5 and 66.5 inches, with a resulting uncertainty of about .7%.

168.64 implies an uncertainty of about .007%.

It's not possible to increase precision by converting units.

STUDENT SOLUTION AND QUESTIONS

My height in meters is – 5’5” = 65inches* 2.54cm/1in = 165cm*1m/100cm = 1.7m. My weight is 140lbs*

1kg/2.2lbs = 63.6kg. Since 5’5” could be anything between 5’4.5 and 5’5.5, the uncertainty in height is ???? The

uncertainty in weight, since 140 can be between 139.5 and 140.5, is ??????

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Your height would be 5' 5"" +- .5""; this is the same as 65"" +- .5"".

.5"" / 65"" = .008, approximately, or .8%. So the uncertainty in your height is +-0.5"", which is +-0.8%.

Similarly you report a weight of 140 lb +- .5 lb.

.5 lb is .5 lb / (140 lb) = .004, or 0.4%. So the uncertainty is +-0.5 lb, or +- 0.4%.

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