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006.  goin' the other way 

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********************************************* Question:  `q001.  If the water and a certain cylinder is changing depth at a rate of -4 cm/sec at the t = 20 second instant, at which instant the depth is 80 cm, then approximately what do you expect the depth will be at the t = 21 second instant?     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:    -4cm/s *1s = -4cm 80-4 = 76     confidence rating #$&*: 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aAt a rate of -4 cm/s, for the 1-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 21 s the change in depth would be -4 cm/s * 1 sec = -4 cm.  If the depth was 80 cm at t = 20 sec, the depth at t = 21 sec would be 80 cm - 4 cm/ = 76 cm.     &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):   Won't the rate change over this 1 sec interval giving us less than -4 as the change in depth????

@& It certainly will.

The question asks for an approximation. This approximation either overestimates or underestimates the new depth; you should find it easy to figure out which. *@

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********************************************* Question:  `q002.  Using the same information, what the you expect the depth will be depth at the t = 30 sec instant?  Do you think this estimate is more or less accurate than the estimate you made for the t = 21 second instant?     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:     30 sec - 20 sec = 10 s -4cm/s * 10 s = -40 80 - 40 = 40 Much less accurate because the rate is not constant.     confidence rating #$&*: 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aAt - 4 cm/s, during the 10-second interval between t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec we would expect a depth change of -4 cm/sec * 10 sec = -40 cm, which would result in a t = 30 sec depth of 80 cm - 40 cm = 40 cm.     &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):      OK     ------------------------------------------------ Self-critique Rating: OK

********************************************* Question:  `q003.  If you know that the depth in the preceding example is changing at the rate of -3 cm/s at the t = 30 sec instant, how will this change your estimate for the depth at t = 30 seconds--i.e., will your estimate be the same as before, will you estimate a greater change in depth or a lesser change in depth?     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:  There will be less depth change.     confidence rating #$&*: 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aSince the rate of depth change has changed from -4 cm / s at t = 20 s to -3 cm / s at t = 30 s, we conclude that the depth probably wouldn't change as much has before.     &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):    OK     ------------------------------------------------ Self-critique Rating: OK

********************************************* Question:  `q004.  What is your specific estimate of the depth at t = 30 seconds?     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:    (-4-3)/2 = -3.5 10*-3.5 = -35 80 - 35 = 45     confidence rating #$&*: 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aKnowing that at t = 20 sec the rate is -4 cm/s, and at t = 30 sec the rate is -3 cm/s, we could reasonably conjecture that the approximate average rate of change between these to clock times must be about -3.5 cm/s.  Over the 10-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 30 s, this would result in a depth change of -3.5 cm/s * 10 sec = -35 cm, and a t = 30 s depth of 80 cm - 35 cm = 45 cm.     &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):   OK     ------------------------------------------------ Self-critique Rating:

OK ********************************************* Question:  `q005.  If we have a uniform cylinder with a uniformly sized hole from which water is leaking, so that the quadratic model is very nearly a precise model of what actually happens, then the prediction that the depth will change and average rate of -3.5 cm/sec is accurate.  This is because the rate at which the water depth changes will in this case be a linear function of clock time, and the average value of a linear function between two clock times must be equal to the average of its values at those to clock times.    If y is the function that tells us the depth of the water as a function of clock time, then we let  y ' stand for the function that tells us the rate at which depth changes as a function of clock time.    If the rate at which depth changes is accurately modeled by the linear function y ' = .1 t - 6, with t in sec and y in cm/s, verify that the rates at t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec are indeed -4 cm/s and -3 cm/s.     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:      y'(20) = .1(20) -6 = -4 y'(30) = .1(30) - 6 = -3     confidence rating #$&*: 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aAt t = 20 sec, we evaluate y ' to obtain y ' = .1 ( 20 sec) - 6 = 2 - 6 = -4, representing -4 cm/s.   At t = 30 sec, we evaluate y' to obtain y' = .1 ( 30 sec) - 6 = 3 - 6 = -3, representing -3 cm/s.     &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):      OK     ------------------------------------------------ Self-critique Rating: OK

********************************************* Question:  `q006.  For the rate function y ' = .1 t - 6, at what clock time does the rate of depth change first equal zero?     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:     .1t - 6 = 0 t = 60     confidence rating #$&*: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aThe rate of depth change is first equal to zero when y ' = .1 t - 6 = 0.  This equation is easily solved to see that t = 60 sec.   STUDENT COMMENT    This was pretty straight forward, I could look at it and figure out the time to find zero, but if the times were not spaced out by ten second intervals the finding of zero would be hard to do.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE   If you write down the equation and solve it, it works out easily enough.
For example if the equation was .07 t - 12 = 0, you would add 12 to both sides then divide by .07 to get t = 12 / .07, which is approximately 170.
Of course if the equation is more difficult (e.g an equation like .02 t^2 + 4.2 t^2 - t + 9 = 0) it gets harder to solve for t, and it doesn't take much to come up the an equation that's impossible to solve. But the linear equation of this problem wouldn't be difficult.   You will in any case be expected to be able to solve linear and quadratic equations. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):    OK     ------------------------------------------------ Self-critique Rating:

OK ********************************************* Question:  `q007.  How much depth change is there between t = 20 sec and the time at which depth stops changing?     YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Your solution:     y'(20) = -4 y'(60) = .1(60) - 6 = 0 average = -4/2 = -2 -2 * 40 = -80 cm     confidence rating #$&*: 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:  `aThe rate of depth change at t = 20 sec is - 4 cm/s; at t = 60 sec the rate is 0 cm/s.  The average rate at which depth changes during this 40-second interval is therefore the average of -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, or -2 cm/s.    At an average rate of -2 cm/s for 40 s, the depth change will be -80 cm.  Starting at 80 cm when t = 20 sec, we see that the depth at t = 60 is therefore 80 cm - 80 cm = 0.   STUDENT QUESTION   I dont totally understand where the 2 cm/s comes from.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE   The two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, calculated from the given rate function, are applicable to the interval between t = 20 sec and t = 60 sec.
The first is the rate at the beginning of the interval, and the second is the rate at the end of the interval.
Without additional information, our first conjecture would be that the average rate is the average of the initial and final rates. For different situations this conjecture might be more or less valid; in this case since the rate function is linear, it turns out that it is completely valid.
The average of the two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s is -2 cm/s, and this is the rate we apply to our analysis of this interval.   &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Self-critique (if necessary):    OK     ------------------------------------------------ Self-critique Rating: OK"

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course mth 173

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006.  goin' the other way 

 

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Question:  `qNote that there are 7 questions in this assignment. 

 

 

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Question:  `q001.  If the water and a certain cylinder is changing depth at a rate of -4 cm/sec at the t = 20 second instant, at which instant the depth is 80 cm, then approximately what do you expect the depth will be at the t = 21 second instant?

 

 

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Your solution: 

 

-4cm/s *1s = -4cm

80-4 = 76

 

 

confidence rating #$&*: 3

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Given Solution: 

`aAt a rate of -4 cm/s, for the 1-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 21 s the change in depth would be -4 cm/s * 1 sec = -4 cm.  If the depth was 80 cm at t = 20 sec, the depth at t = 21 sec would be 80 cm - 4 cm/ = 76 cm.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):

 

Won't the rate change over this 1 sec interval giving us less than -4 as the change in depth????

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It certainly will.

The question asks for an approximation. This approximation either overestimates or underestimates the new depth; you should find it easy to figure out which.

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Self-critique Rating: OK

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Question:  `q002.  Using the same information, what the you expect the depth will be depth at the t = 30 sec instant?  Do you think this estimate is more or less accurate than the estimate you made for the t = 21 second instant?

 

 

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Your solution: 

 

 30 sec - 20 sec = 10 s

-4cm/s * 10 s = -40

80 - 40 = 40

Much less accurate because the rate is not constant.

 

 

confidence rating #$&*: 3

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Given Solution: 

`aAt - 4 cm/s, during the 10-second interval between t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec we would expect a depth change of -4 cm/sec * 10 sec = -40 cm, which would result in a t = 30 sec depth of 80 cm - 40 cm = 40 cm.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):

 

 

 OK

 

 

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Question:  `q003.  If you know that the depth in the preceding example is changing at the rate of -3 cm/s at the t = 30 sec instant, how will this change your estimate for the depth at t = 30 seconds--i.e., will your estimate be the same as before, will you estimate a greater change in depth or a lesser change in depth?

 

 

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Your solution: 

There will be less depth change.

 

 

confidence rating #$&*: 3

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Given Solution: 

`aSince the rate of depth change has changed from -4 cm / s at t = 20 s to -3 cm / s at t = 30 s, we conclude that the depth probably wouldn't change as much has before.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):

 

 OK

 

 

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Question:  `q004.  What is your specific estimate of the depth at t = 30 seconds?

 

 

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Your solution: 

 

(-4-3)/2 = -3.5

10*-3.5 = -35

80 - 35 = 45

 

 

confidence rating #$&*: 3

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Given Solution: 

`aKnowing that at t = 20 sec the rate is -4 cm/s, and at t = 30 sec the rate is -3 cm/s, we could reasonably conjecture that the approximate average rate of change between these to clock times must be about -3.5 cm/s.  Over the 10-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 30 s, this would result in a depth change of -3.5 cm/s * 10 sec = -35 cm, and a t = 30 s depth of 80 cm - 35 cm = 45 cm.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):

 

OK

 

 

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Self-critique Rating:

OK

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Question:  `q005.  If we have a uniform cylinder with a uniformly sized hole from which water is leaking, so that the quadratic model is very nearly a precise model of what actually happens, then the prediction that the depth will change and average rate of -3.5 cm/sec is accurate.  This is because the rate at which the water depth changes will in this case be a linear function of clock time, and the average value of a linear function between two clock times must be equal to the average of its values at those to clock times. 

 

If y is the function that tells us the depth of the water as a function of clock time, then we let  y ' stand for the function that tells us the rate at which depth changes as a function of clock time. 

 

If the rate at which depth changes is accurately modeled by the linear function y ' = .1 t - 6, with t in sec and y in cm/s, verify that the rates at t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec are indeed -4 cm/s and -3 cm/s.

 

 

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Your solution: 

 

 

y'(20) = .1(20) -6 = -4

y'(30) = .1(30) - 6 = -3

 

 

confidence rating #$&*: 3

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Given Solution: 

`aAt t = 20 sec, we evaluate y ' to obtain y ' = .1 ( 20 sec) - 6 = 2 - 6 = -4, representing -4 cm/s.

 

At t = 30 sec, we evaluate y' to obtain y' = .1 ( 30 sec) - 6 = 3 - 6 = -3, representing -3 cm/s.

 

 

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Self-critique (if necessary):

 

 

 OK

 

 

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Question:  `q006.  For the rate function y ' = .1 t - 6, at what clock time does the rate of depth change first equal zero?

 

 

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Your solution: 

 

 .1t - 6 = 0

t = 60

 

 

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Given Solution: 

`aThe rate of depth change is first equal to zero when y ' = .1 t - 6 = 0.  This equation is easily solved to see that t = 60 sec.

 

STUDENT COMMENT

 

 This was pretty straight forward, I could look at it and figure out the time to find zero, but if the times were not spaced out by ten second intervals the finding of zero would be hard to do.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

 

If you write down the equation and solve it, it works out easily enough.
For example if the equation was .07 t - 12 = 0, you would add 12 to both sides then divide by .07 to get t = 12 / .07, which is approximately 170.
Of course if the equation is more difficult (e.g an equation like .02 t^2 + 4.2 t^2 - t + 9 = 0) it gets harder to solve for t, and it doesn't take much to come up the an equation that's impossible to solve. But the linear equation of this problem wouldn't be difficult.

 

You will in any case be expected to be able to solve linear and quadratic equations.

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Self-critique (if necessary):

 

 OK

 

 

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OK

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Question:  `q007.  How much depth change is there between t = 20 sec and the time at which depth stops changing?

 

 

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Your solution: 

 

 y'(20) = -4

y'(60) = .1(60) - 6 = 0

average = -4/2 = -2

-2 * 40 = -80 cm

 

 

confidence rating #$&*: 3

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Given Solution: 

`aThe rate of depth change at t = 20 sec is - 4 cm/s; at t = 60 sec the rate is 0 cm/s.  The average rate at which depth changes during this 40-second interval is therefore the average of -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, or -2 cm/s. 

 

At an average rate of -2 cm/s for 40 s, the depth change will be -80 cm.  Starting at 80 cm when t = 20 sec, we see that the depth at t = 60 is therefore 80 cm - 80 cm = 0.

 

STUDENT QUESTION

 

I dont totally understand where the 2 cm/s comes from.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

 

The two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, calculated from the given rate function, are applicable to the interval between t = 20 sec and t = 60 sec.
The first is the rate at the beginning of the interval, and the second is the rate at the end of the interval.
Without additional information, our first conjecture would be that the average rate is the average of the initial and final rates. For different situations this conjecture might be more or less valid; in this case since the rate function is linear, it turns out that it is completely valid.
The average of the two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s is -2 cm/s, and this is the rate we apply to our analysis of this interval.

 

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