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025. More Forces

Physics II

07-11-2007

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16:10:52

`q001. Note that this assignment contains 5 questions.

. A pendulum consists of a 150 g mass suspended from a light string. Another light string is attached to the mass, which is then pulled back from its equilibrium position by that string until the first string makes an angle of 15 degrees with vertical. The second string remains horizontal.

Let the x axis be horizontal and the y axis vertical. Assume that the mass is pulled in the positive x direction. If T stands for the tension in the pendulum string, then in terms of the variable T what are the x and y components of the tension?

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All I really know about tension is from Idea 12 synopsis. Tx = x * w/L. Also that the tension component tending to restore the pendulum to equilibrium is proporitonal to the displacemtns from equilibrium. I am not really sure how any of these apply to this problem thought.

confidence assessment: 0

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16:13:48

The pendulum string makes an angle of 15 degrees with vertical. Since we have assumed that the pendulum is pulled in the positive x direction, the direction of the tension in the string will be upward and to the left at an angle of 15 degrees with vertical. The tension force will therefore be directed at 90 degrees + 15 degrees = 105 degrees as measured counterclockwise from the positive x axis.

The tension will therefore have x component T cos(105 degrees) and y component T sin(105 degrees).

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I see how you solve this sort of like a vector problem. You have to find the angle first and then find the x and y components the same way as a vector equation.

self critique assessment: 2

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16:18:20

`q002. Continuing the preceding problem, we see that we have a vertical force of T sin(105 deg) from the tension. What other vertical force(s) act on the mass? What is the magnitude and direction of each of these forces? What therefore must be the magnitude of T sin(105 deg).

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I think that the acceleration of gravity in the vertical direction is another vertical force that acts on the mass. The magnitude and direction I think are straight down on the mass, so I guess at 90 degrees. If the acceleration is the tension the it would be 9.8 m/s/s sin (105). That equals 9.5.

confidence assessment: 2

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16:20:23

The only other vertical force acting on the mass will be the gravitational force, which is .150 kg * 9.8 meters/second ^ 2 = 1.47 Newtons. The direction of this force is vertically downward.

Since the mass is in equilibrium, i.e., not accelerating, the net force in the y direction must be zero. Thus

T sin(105 deg) - 1.47 Newtons = 0 and T sin(105 deg) = 1.47 Newtons.

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I just accounted for gravity in general, but not applied directly to the object, which is why you did .150kg * 9.8 m/s/s = 1.47N.

self critique assessment: 2

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16:21:36

`q003. Continuing the preceding two problems, what therefore must be the tension T, and how much tension is there in the horizontal string which is holding the pendulum back?

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If you solve the equation Tsin(105) = 1.47, then T = .504. I think the units are Newtons becuase tension is a force.

confidence assessment: 3

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16:28:24

If T sin(105 deg) = 1.47 Newtons then T = 1.47 Newtons / (sin(105 deg)) = 1.47 Newtons/.97 = 1.52 Newtons.

Thus the horizontal component of the tension will be T cos(105 deg) = 1.52 Newtons * cos(105 deg) = 1.52 Newtons * (-.26) = -.39 Newtons, approximately.

Since the mass is in equilibrium, the net force in the x direction must be zero. The only forces acting in the x direction are the x component of the tension, to which we just found to be -.39 Newtons, and the tension in the second string, which for the moment will call T2. Thus

T2 + (-.39 N) = 0 and T2 = .39 N.

That is, the tension in the second string is .39 Newtons.

STUDENT COMMENT: I'm really confused now. If we started out with a .15 kg mass that is equal to 1.47 Newtons. How did we create more weight to get 1.52 Newtons? Is the horizontal string not helping support the weight or is it puling on the weight adding more force?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: A horizontal force has no vertical component and cannot help to support an object against a vertical force.

The vertical component of the tension is what supports the weight, so the tension has to be a bit greater than the weight.

The tension in the string is resisting the downward weight vector as well as the horizontal pull, so by the Pythagorean Theorem it must be greater than either.

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I subracted sin(105) from 1.47 instead of dividing it. I am not sure now once we found it to be 1.52 Newtons how that turns into the horizontal component.

It doesn't turn in to a horizontal component. Once we find that T = 1.52 Newtons, knowing that it is directed at 105 degrees we simply find the x component of a vector whose magnitude is 1.52 Newtons and 105 degrees, using x comp = magnitude * cos(theta).

Also, are we not solving for T at all or is that just something to distinguish this as a tension problem. We did solve for T. We found it to be 1.52 N.

self critique assessment: 2

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16:32:03

`q004. If a 2 kg pendulum is held back at an angle of 20 degrees from vertical by a horizontal force, what is the magnitude of that horizontal force?

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The angle of the pendulum would be 110 degrees. The x component is cos (110) and the y component is sin (110) = .939. From this, I got the magnitude to be .7661 by using the pythagorean theorem.

confidence assessment: 3

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16:36:04

At the 20 degree angle the tension in the pendulum string will have a vertical component equal and opposite to the force exerted by gravity. The tension with therefore have a horizontal component. To achieve equilibrium by exerting the horizontal force, this horizontal force must balance the horizontal component of the tension.

We therefore begin by letting T stand for the tension in the pendulum string. We also assumed that the pendulum is displaced in the positive x, so that the direction of the string as measured counterclockwise from the positive x axis will be 90 degrees + 20 degrees = 110 degrees. Thus the x component of the tension will be T cos(110 deg) and the y component of the tension will be T sin(110 deg).

The weight of the 2 kg pendulum is 2 kg * 9.8 meters/second ^ 2 = 19.6 Newtons, directed in the negative vertical direction. Since the pendulum are in equilibrium, the net vertical force is zero:

T sin(110 deg) + (-19.6 N) = 0

This equation is easily solved for the tension: T = 19.6 N / (sin(110 deg) ) = 19.6 N / (.94) = 20.8 Newtons, approximately.

The horizontal component of the tension is therefore T cos(110 deg) = 20.8 N * cos(110 deg) = 20.8 N * (-.34) = -7 N, approx.. To achieve equilibrium, the additional horizontal force needed will be + 7 Newtons.

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I see now that you don't actually solve for the components, you just use the equation to solve for T. From there you multiply that by the y component to get 7 Newtons.

you multiply the magnitude by the cosine of the angle to get the x component, by the sine of the angle to get the y component. You don't mutliply T by one of its components, you multiply T by the sine or cosine of the angle.

self critique assessment: 2

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16:37:41

`q005. The 2 kg pendulum in the previous exercise is again pulled back to an angle of 20 degrees with vertical. This time it is held in that position by a chain of negligible mass which makes an angle of 40 degrees above horizontal.

Describe your sketch of the forces acting on the mass of the pendulum.

What must be the tension in the chain?

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I am actually not even sure how to draw this. All I have is two lines pointing out into the top left quadrant.

confidence assessment: 0

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16:42:32

The weight of the pendulum is partially supported by the tension in the chain. Thus the tension in the pendulum string is not the same as before. The horizontal component of the tension in the chain will be equal and opposite to the horizontal component of the tension in the pendulum string.

Your picture should show the weight vector acting straight downward, the tension in the pendulum string acting upward and to the left at an angle of 20 degrees to vertical and the tension in the chain should act upward into the right at an angle of 40 degrees above horizontal. The lengths of the vectors should be adjusted so that the horizontal components of the two tensions are equal and opposite, and so that the sum of the vertical components of the two tensions is equal of opposite to the weight vector.

Since both tensions are unknown we will let T1 stand for the tension in the pendulum and T2 for the tension in the chain. Then T1, as in the preceding problem, acts at an angle of 110 degrees as measured counterclockwise from the positive x axis, and T2 acts at an angle of 40 degrees.

At this point whether or not we know where we are going, we should realize that we need to break everything into x and y components. It is advisable to put this information into a table something like the following:

x comp y comp

T1 T1 * cos(110 deg) T1 * sin(110 deg) in

T2 T2 * cos(40 deg) T2 * sin(40 deg)

Weight 0 -19.6 N

The pendulum is held in equilibrium, so the sum of all the x components must be 0, as must the sum of all y components. We thus obtain the two equations

T1 * cos(110 deg) + T2 * cos(40 deg) = 0 and

T1 * sin(110 deg) + T2 * sin(40 deg) - 19.6 N = 0.

The values of the sines and cosines can be substituted into the equations obtain the equations

-.33 T1 + .77 T2 = 0

.95 T1 + .64 T2 - 19.6 N = 0.

We solve these two simultaneous equations for T1 and T2 using one of the usual methods. Here we will solve using the method of substitution.

If we solve the first equation for T1 in terms of T2 we obtain T1 = .77 T2 / .33 = 2.3 T2. Substituting 2.3 T2 for T1 in the second equation we obtain

.95 * 2.3 T2 + .64 T2 - 19.6 N = 0, which we easily rearrange to obtain

2.18 T2 + .64 T2 = 19.6 Newtons, or

2.82 T2 = 19.6 N, which has solution

T2 = 19.6 Newtons/2.82 = 6.9 N, approximately.

Since T1 = 2.3 T2, we have T1 = 2.3 * 6.9 N = 15.9 N, approximately.

Thus the pendulum string has tension approximately 15.9 Newtons and the chain the tension of approximately 6.9 Newtons.

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This problem is really complex. I am still not even sure how the picture is drawn. Is T2 in the top right quandrant and T1 in the top left?

Quoting from the given solution:

'Your picture should show the weight vector acting straight downward, the tension in the pendulum string acting upward and to the left at an angle of 20 degrees to vertical and the tension in the chain should act upward into the right at an angle of 40 degrees above horizontal. '

To clarify:

The string tension is in the second quadrant; 20 degrees from vertical puts it at 110 deg.

The chain tension is in the first quadrant, at angle 40 deg.

The weight vector is straight down, at 270 deg.

And why does the x component not have any force acted on it like the -19.6 for the y component.

19.6 N is the weight of the pendulum. Since the y axis is vertical and the weight is downward, it is the vector at 270 deg (which respresents the weight) that has magnitude 19.6 N.

Gravity does not act in the x direction. The only forces acting in the x direction are the components of string tension and chain tension.

Once I have all the components, I understand that the tensions have to equal eachother to be in equilibrium and then you used substitution to solve for T1 and T2.

self critique assessment: 2

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