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course Phy 232
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Phy 232
Your 'measuring atmospheric pressure part 2' report has been received. Scroll down through the document to see any comments I might have inserted, and my final comment at the end.
** Measuring Atmospheric Pressure Part 2_labelMessages **
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Overview of the analysis:
The relative lengths of the air column in the pressure tube before and after 'squeezing' give you direct information about the pressure in atmospheres.
The height of the water column in the vertical tube give you the increase in pressure, in units of N / m^2, that reult from your 'squeeze'.
In this analysis you will
• use the meniscus positions in the pressure tube to determine pressure ratios corresponding to the various marks on the vertical tube,
• use the density of water and the heights of the water columns in the vertical tube to determine the corresponding pressure differences,
• obtain two expressions for the various pressure ratios, which can in each case be set equal to one another and solved for the atmospheric pressure
• graph pressure difference vs. pressure ratio and determine the meaning of the slope associated with that graph.
Preliminary analysis:
• Using your data from the preceding experiment Measure Atmospheric Pressure (Part 1), what is the greatest height to which you raised water in the vertical tube?
• How much pressure, in N / m^2 or Pa, is necessary to support the water column?
• How long was the air column in the 'pressure tube' at the beginning when the system was at atmospheric pressure, and how long was it when the water was raised to its maximum height?
• By what percent did the air pressure therefore exceed atmospheric pressure when the water was at its maximum height?
Answer these two questions below:
.35m is the greatest height I raised the water in the vertical tube.
P= 1000kg/m^3 x 0.35m x 9.8 m/s^2 = 3430Pa
27.25cm was the air column at atmospheric pressure and reached 23.5cm at its maximum height.
(27.25-24.75)/27.25=.092 or 9.2%
----->>>>> max ht from before, pressure to support in N/m^2, air column lgths, % atm pressure exceeded
• The original pressure of the system was 1 atmosphere. Additional pressure was required to support the water column. You have just calculated this excess pressure in N / m^2, or Pa, and you have also calculated it as a percent of the original atmospheric pressure. What percent of atmospheric pressure corresponds to how many N / m^2? Explain.
• What therefore must be atmospheric pressure?
----->>>>> % of atm pressure to how many N/m^2; concluded atm pressure
Your answer (start in the next line):
The percent is 9.2% which was calculated earlier.
3430Pa(.092)=315Pa
3430Pa-315Pa=3115Pa is the atm pressure
.092/3430=.0027% of atm pressure corresponds to N/m^2
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Your preliminary analysis gave you a result based on the data for one of your trials. The analysis you do here will take into account all the points. Ultimately you will make a graph of pressure in N / m^2, or Pa, vs. pressure in atmospheres, and you will use this graph to determine atmospheric pressure.
Throughout this analysis we will assume that the pressure tube is of uniform cross-sectional area. This isn't really the case; the end cap creates a small segment where the cross-sectional area is a greater than that of the rest of the tube, but we're going to assume here that the effect on our overall results is not significant.
Making this assumption:
• If the air column was 30 cm long in one part of the experiment, and its length decreased by 10%, what would be its new length in cm?
• If the air column was 30 cm long in one part of the experiment, and the volume of the air column decreased by 10%, what would be its new length in cm?
Give your two answers, separated by a comma, below:
----->>>>> new lgth if lgth decr by 10%, new vol if vol decr 10%
Your answer (start in the next line):
27, 27
Both of these numbers are in centimeters. The first number is the new length of the air column with a 10% decrease in length. The second number is the new length of the air column after the volume was decreased by 10%. Since you are only changing one variable in the second question, I believe that the answer would be the same as the first and done in a similar fashion.
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Your answers should have been the same. Since the cross-sectional area is the same in both cases, and since the volume is the product of the cross-sectional area and the length, the ratio of the two volumes will be the same as the ratio of the two lengths.
Explain why, provided cross-sectional area remains the same, the volume ratio must be identical to the length ratio.
----->>>>> why vol ratio identical to lgth ratio
Your answer (start in the next line):
Since the volume equals pi(r)^2h and the cross section is the same, then the only other variable is the height or length. Therefore, the ratio of the volume has to be equal to the length ratio for the formula to work out as it should.
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In what follows, atmospheric pressure is to be regarded as an unknown. When and if you refer to atmospheric pressure, use P_atm to represent this quantity. Do not use any numerical value, just the symbol P_atm.
• When the system was pressurized, water rose in the vertical tube to an observed height above the water surface in the container.
• Let point A be on the meniscus of the water column in the vertical tube, and let B be a point on the surface of the water in the container.
• It is possible to trace a path from point A to point B, such that at every point the path is completely surrounded by water. Thus, the water is continuous along this path from A to B, and Bernoulli's Equation therefore holds.
• Bernoulli's equation relates the density, velocity, pressure and altitude at different points in a continuous fluid.
• The density of water is constant in this situation (it is very difficult to significantly compress liquid water, requiring very high pressures).
Of the three remaining variables (velocity, pressure and altitude, subsequently referred to as v, P and y):
• Which variable(s), if any, do not change between point A and point B?
• Which variable(s), if any, increase as you move from A to B?
• Which variable(s), if any, decrease as you move from A to B?
• Which variable(s), if any, are zero at both points?
Answer below. Be sure you indicate clearly which increase, which decrease, etc..
----->>>>> A top vert tube B water surf unchanging vbls, vbls incr A to B, decr A to B, same at both
Your answer (start in the next line):
The velocity does not change between the points and is also zero at those points. Also, the pressure and the alititude decrease between point a and point b.
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Using the following symbols:
• rho for density,
• v_A and v_B for velocities at A and B,
• P_A and P_B for pressures at A and B, and
• y_A and y_B for altitudes at A and B,
and leaving out any terms of the equation that happen to be 0, write down Bernoulli's equation for this situation and report your equation below.
If you left out a term because it was 0, explain which term is was and why that term is 0.
----->>>>> Bernoulli's eqn, expl of term(s) omitted because 0
Your answer (start in the next line):
P_A + ‘rho*g*y_A = P_B + ‘rho*g*y_B
The term that was left out was v_A and v_B because the velocities are equal to 0.
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For the trial where the water in the vertical tube was at the first mark, give the following, one number or symbolic expression to each line. Give the numerical value if it is known, in units of m/s for velocity or m for altitude. If, and only if, a quantity is not known for this system and has not been assigned a specific symbol, report using just the appropriate symbol P_A, P_B, y_A, y_B, v_A or v_b.
• The pressure at point A:
• The altitude at point A:
• The velocity at point A:
• The pressure at point B:
• The altitude at point B:
• The velocity at point B:
----->>>>> at 1st mark P, y, v at A, P, y, v at B numbers or symbolic as appropriate
Your answer (start in the next line):
1atm
.15m
0m/s^2
P_B
0 m
0m/s^2
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Your velocities at both A and B are zero; neither water surface should have been moving with any significant velocity during any observation of the position of the meniscus in the pressure tube.
• The point A is in contact with air in the tube, which is open to the atmosphere and is therefore at atmospheric pressure, so the pressure at that point is P_atm; recall that we are treating this pressure as an unknown here and are therefore expressing it symbolically.
• You can measure the vertical positions at A and B from any point you wish, as long as both are measured relative to the same point altitude; as long as your value of y_A is greater than y_B by the distance from the water surface to the mark, your values are correct.
• You might have chosen to regard the water surface as point A, in which case y_A would be zero and y_B would be the distance from the water surface to the mark. Since both velocities are zero neither of the .5 rho v^2 terms should be included in the equation.
Check the equation you gave against these notes, and if you need to correct your equation, do it here; don't go back and correct your previous answer.
----->>>>> correct eqn if necessary
Your answer (start in the next line):
I believe my equation to be correct.
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Solve Bernoulli's equation as you wrote it for P_B, by algebraically rearranging it so that P_B is on the left-hand side.
• On the first line below give the right-hand side of the rearranged equation.
• On the second line substitute into this expression the accepted value rho = 1000 kg / m^3 for rho and simplify. Leave P_atm in symbolic form.
----->>>>> solve eqn for P_B give rt side; substitute for rho and simplify
Your answer (start in the next line):
P_B = rho*g*y_A + P_atm
P_B=(1000kg/m^3)(9.8m/s^2)(.15m)+P_atm
P_B=1470+P_atm
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The pressure of the gas changes very little from one part of the bottle to the other. Since point B is on the water surface and hence in contact with both water and gas, the gas pressure in the bottle is equal to the pressure at point B.
Write the ratio of pressure in the bottle to atmospheric pressure. The ratio would be
• ratio = (pressure inside) / P_atm,
where (pressure inside) is the expression you obtained for P_B.
----->>>>> expression P inside / P_atm (at 1st mark)
Your answer (start in the next line):
(1470Pa+P_atm)/P_atm
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Following the same sequence of steps, find the symbolic expression for the ratio of gas pressure inside the bottle to atmospheric pressure for the second mark on the vertical tube.
Then do the same for the highest mark.
If you did set of trials for a fourth mark, find that expression also.
Report all four of your ratios below, in order from the lowest to the highest mark. If you did not make the fourth observation, you may leave the fourth line blank.
----->>>>> pressure ratio expressions for water at all 3 or 4 marks
Your answer (start in the next line):
(1470Pa+P_atm)/P_atm
(2450Pa+P_atm)/P_atm
(3430Pa+P_atm)/P_atm
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At this point you should have a symbolic expression for the pressure ratio in each sequence of trials.
Now you will obtain numerical results for these ratios, based on your observations. Once you have these results, you can set each of your symbolic expressions equal to the corresponding number and solve each for P_atm.
Open the data analysis program.
• Copy into the data window the 5 rows of your data corresponding to the beginning and ending positions of the meniscus (i.e., the meniscus positions corresponding to atmospheric pressure, and to the pressure when the water was at the first mark).
• Also copy the same five lines into the space given below:
----->>>>> for 1st vert pos copy of 5 rows copied into data analysis program
Your answer (start in the next line):
23.5,24.75
24.25,25.25
23.25,24.5
23.75,25.0
23.0,24.25
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Find the mean and standard deviation of your unpressurized and pressurized meniscus positions:
• Click on the Mean and Standard Deviation button and the program will report the mean and standard deviation of the numbers in the first column. These results will represent the mean and standard deviation of the 'unpressurized' positions of the meniscus.
• If the Select Column button is on the form, click it to select column 2. Column 2 will appear in the data window. Otherwise you will need to manually remove the first column, including the comma, so that the data window shows only the numbers from the second column.
• Find the mean and standard deviation of that column. These results will represent the mean and standard deviation of the 'unpressurized' positions of the meniscus.
Make a sketch representing these results:
• Sketch on a number line (in your lab notebook) the interval corresponding to mean +- standard deviation for the no-pressure position, and for the pressurized position of the meniscus (i.e., sketch for each the interval from mean - standard deviation to mean + standard deviation).
• Make note of the left- and right-hand endpoints of each interval.
Report your results as follows:
• In the first line, the height from the water surface to the mark.
• In the second line, the mean and standard deviation of the 'unpressurized' positions of the meniscus (the first column), reported in that order in comma-delimited format.
• In the third line, the mean and standard deviation of the 'pressurized' ('squeezed') positions of the meniscus (originally in the second column), in the same format used for the second line.
• In the fourth line, the difference of the two means.
• Starting in the fifth line, an explanation of what the difference of the two means represents, and a discussion of the uncertainty in your measurement of this quantity.
• In the sixth line, a short discussion of the uncertainty in your measurement of this quantity.
• Starting in the seventh line briefly describe how you calculated your results and what they mean.
----->>>>> vert pos of water column, mean sdev unpressurized meniscus, same pressurized, difference of means, meaning and uncertainty, discuss uncertainty, how results calculated
Your answer (start in the next line):
15
23.55,0.4809
24.75, 0.3953
1.2
The difference of the two means is the average distance the water traveled in centimeters.
There is some uncertainty resulting from human error in measuring and also from the tube not being perfectly linear while measuring.
I calculated these results by using the Data program as instructed. All of these numbers are self-explanatory except for standard deviation. Standard deviation is how much a trial will differ quantitatively from the data as a whole.
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Repeat for the second set of 5 trials, where water was raised to the second mark
• Copy your 5 lines of data here:
----->>>>> 5 lines water at 2d mark
Your answer (start in the next line):
24.0,26.25
23.5,26.0
23.75,26.5
23.0,26.25
23.25,25.75
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Calculate and report your results for that data, using the same format as before:
• In the first line report the height from the water surface to the mark.
• In the second line, the mean and standard deviation of the 'unpressurized' positions of the meniscus (the first column), reported in that order in comma-delimited format.
• In the third line, the mean and standard deviation of the 'pressurized' ('squeezed') positions of the meniscus (originally in the second column), in the same format used for the second line.
• In the fourth line, the difference of the two means.
• Starting in the fifth line, an explanation of what the difference of the two means represents.
• In the sixth line, a short discussion of the uncertainty in your measurement of this quantity.
• Starting in the seventh line briefly describe how you calculated your results and what they mean.
----->>>>> vert pos of water column, mean sdev unpressurized meniscus, same pressurized, difference of means, meaning and uncertainty, discuss uncertainty, how results calculated
Your answer (start in the next line):
25
23.5, 0.3953
26.15,0.2850
2.65
The difference of the two means is the average distance the water traveled in centimeters.
There is some uncertainty resulting from human error in measuring and also from the tube not being perfectly linear while measuring.
I calculated these results by using the Data program as instructed. All of these numbers are self-explanatory except for standard deviation. Standard deviation is how much a trial will differ quantitatively from the data as a whole.
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Repeat for the third set of 5 trials, where water was raised to the highest mark you could easily manage:
• Copy your 5 lines of data here:
----->>>>> 5 lines 3d mark
Your answer (start in the next line):
24.25,27.75
23.5,27.25
23.25,27.5
24.5,28.25
23.75,27.75
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Calculate and report your results for that data, using the same six-line format as before:
----->>>>> vert pos of water column, mean sdev unpressurized meniscus, same pressurized, difference of means, meaning and uncertainty, discuss uncertainty, how results calculated
Your answer (start in the next line):
35
23.85,0.5184
27.7,0.3708
3.85
The difference of the two means is the average distance the water traveled in centimeters.
There is some uncertainty resulting from human error in measuring and also from the tube not being perfectly linear while measuring.
I calculated these results by using the Data program as instructed. All of these numbers are self-explanatory except for standard deviation. Standard deviation is how much a trial will differ quantitatively from the data as a whole.
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Repeat for the fourth set of 5 trials, where water was raised to an intermediate mark (if you did not have data for the fourth set of trials this answer and the next may be left blank):
• Copy your 5 lines of data here:
----->>>>> 5 lines 4th mark
Your answer (start in the next line):
N/A
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Calculate and report your results for that data, using the same six-line format as before:
----->>>>> vert pos of water column, mean sdev unpressurized meniscus, same pressurized, difference of means, meaning and uncertainty, discuss uncertainty, how results calculated
Your answer (start in the next line):
N/A
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Summarize below the heights of the vertical water columns and the difference between the mean unpressurized position and the mean pressurized position of the meniscus in the pressure tube. Report these quantities in order of the water column heights from least to greatest.
• Each line should consist of the water column height and the difference in mean meniscus positions, both in units of centimeters, using comma-delimited format.
• Your data should consist of four lines; if you did not to the fourth set of trials, enter 0, 0 in that line.
----->>>>> vert ht diff in mean meniscus pos in 4 lines
Your answer (start in the next line):
15cm,1.2cm
25cm,2.65cm
35cm,3.85cm
0cm,0cm
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For the first set of trials, where the water column was at the first mark, write down the difference you just reported in the meniscus positions, and then write down the original length of the air column in the pressure tube. Using these numbers, answer the following:
• By what percent of the original length of the air column did the that length appear to change when the system was pressurized?
• What therefore was the ratio of volumes of the air columns (the ratio would be (volume after compression / volume before compression)?
Report your results below, giving in each line the percent change in the length of the air column and the volume ratio, separated by commas. Report in order from the lowest mark to the highest mark you observed. If you did not complete the fourth set of trials, enter 0, 1 as your fourth line.
----->>>>> 4 lines % change in air column length , ratio of volumes
Your answer (start in the next line):
.051,19.6
.11,15.43
.16,12.75
0,1
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We know that for a confined ideal gas, PV = n R T. The air column in the pressure tube consists of confined air, and air acts very nearly as an ideal gas.
The temperature T can be regarded as constant, for the reasons indicated in the following paragraph:
• When you squeezed the container and thereby increased the air pressure inside, that increased pressure was transmitted to the water column in the pressure tube, and in turn to the air column in the pressure tube. The result was that the air column was compressed to a lesser volume. In the process positive work was done on the gas in this column, increasing its internal energy, and as a result its temperature also increased. However the gas being in contact with the walls of the tube, this excess thermal energy was quickly absorbed into the walls of the tube and eventually dissipated into the surrounding air. So any change in T was small and short-lived. So T can be regarded as being very nearly the same before and after your reading of the position of the meniscus.
So n and T, and of course R, remain constant. The right-hand side n R T therefore remains constant, and it follows that the product PV must also remain constant.
If PV remains constant then P1 V1 = P2 V2, where P1 and V1 are the pressure and volume before compression and P2 and V2 after. This is the same as saying that
• P2 / P1 = V1 / V2, or
• P2 / P1 = 1 / (V2 / V1).
That is, the pressure ratio is the reciprocal of the volume ratio.
In your own words explain below why the pressure ratio must be equal to the reciprocal of the volume ratio.
----->>>>> why pressure ratio reciprocal of vol ratio
Your answer (start in the next line):
Since we know the formula P1V1=P2V2, then it makes a lot of sense that the pressure ratio is equal to the reciprocal of the volume ratio. After switching around the formula you see that the ratio of pressure is on one side of the equation and on the other is 1 divided by the ratio of the volumes. Therefore, the pressure ratio is the reciprocal of the volume ratio.
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Figure out the pressure ratio corresponding to each of the volume ratios you reported above. Each pressure ratio will the the reciprocal of the corresponding volume ratio.
In the same order as before, from the lowest mark to the highest, report the pressure ratios in the air column, giving the ratio of the pressure after squeezing to the pressure before squeezing.
In the next available line give a sample calculation.
1/.95=1.05
----->>>>> pressure ratios
Your answer (start in the next line):
1.05
1.12
1.19
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You reported earlier the symbolic expressions for the pressure ratios, in terms of the symbol P_atm.
Set the symbolic expression for the first mark equal to the number you just reported for the first mark. This gives you an equation. Report the equation below:
----->>>>> equation for 1st mark symbolic expr equal to just-reported pressure ratio
Your answer (start in the next line):
(1470Pa+P_atm)/P_atm =1.05
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Solve this equation for P_atm and give your solution in the first line below. Starting on the second line, show how you solved the equation, step by step.
----->>>>> solve for P_atm, steps of soln
Your answer (start in the next line):
29400
(1470Pa+P_atm)=1.05P_atm
1470=.05P_atm
P_atm=29400Pa
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Do the same for the remaining marks.
• Report in the first line your equation for the second mark, then your solution to that equation, separated by commas.
• In the second line report your equation and solution for the next-highest mark (this will be the highest mark if you did only three 5-trial sets).
• If you did a fourth trial, then report in the third line your equation and solution for the highest mark.
----->>>>> each mark eqn then soln
Your answer (start in the next line):
(2450Pa+P_atm)/P_atm =1.12,20417Pa
(3430Pa+P_atm)/P_atm =1.19,18053Pa
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You will now use rho g h to find the pressure added to the system by each water column:
• Using h = y_A - y_B for each mark, find the additional pressure rho g h indicated by the water column.
• For the first mark, report in the first line below your values of the pressure ratio and rho g h, in comma-delimited format.
• In the same format report in the second line your values for the second mark.
• In the third line report your values for the highest mark.
• In the fourth line report your values for fourth mark you observed, if you observed one. Otherwise just put 1, 0 into the fourth line.
• In the fifth line indicate the units of rho g h, and explain why it has these units.
• Starting in the sixth line give a brief explanation of how you obtained your results and what they mean, Include a sample calculation.
----->>>>> rho g h each vert pos, units of rho g h, explanation
Your answer (start in the next line):
1.05,1470
1.12,2450
1.19,3430
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Sketch and analyze a graph of rho g h vs. pressure ratio:
• Using the table you have just constructed, sketch a graph of rho g h vs. pressure ratio.
• Sketch the straight line you think comes as close as possible, on the average, to your points. Unless your points lie perfectly on a straight line, none of the points should actually lie on the line.
Give below the coordinates of the leftmost and rightmost points on your straight line (these should be points on the line, and should not coincide with data points).
• Put the horizontal and vertical coordinates of the first point in the first line, in comma-delimited format, and the coordinates of the second point in the second line.
----->>>>> coord of two points on graph rho g h vs pressure ratio
Your answer (start in the next line):
1.0,700
1.5,8000
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Report the slope of your straight line:
• Give in the first line the slope of your straight line, as calculated from the two points you have just reported.
• In the second line give the units of this slope (units of rise divided by units of run).
• In the third line explain how you calculated the slope from the coordinates you reported in the previous box.
----->>>>> slope, units of slope, explanation
Your answer (start in the next line):
14600
I calculated the slope by doing rise divided by the run. The rise was 7700 and the run was .5.
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Interpret the slope of your straight line:
• Explain in terms of the system you observed what the meaning of the slope might be:
----->>>>> meaning of slope
Your answer (start in the next line):
The slope of this line is positive and outlines the pressure needed and in our case gives us an idea of the forces needed to change the water levels.
Your instructor is trying to gauge the typical time spent by students on these experiments. Please answer the following question as accurately as you can, understanding that your answer will be used only for the stated purpose and has no bearing on your grades:
• Approximately how long did it take you to complete this experiment?
2.5 hours
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Your analysis is very good overall, but some questions remain.
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There appear to be some relatively minor discrepancies in your reported results.
You reported the following water heights vs. changes in meniscus position for an air column very roughly 30 cm long:
15cm,1.2cm
25cm,2.65cm
35cm,3.85cm
Then you reported changes of .05, .11, .16 percent in air column length. I believe you meant 5, 11, 16, and that fits, so no problem there.
Then you report
1.05,1470
1.12,2450
1.19,3430
According to your previous reports, the first column would be 1.05, 1.11, 1.16
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I see where you are talking about and am not sure how I made such a careless mistake. However, I can ensure you that it will not happen again.
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If your clerical skills are like mine, it probably will.
However, no problem. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some deeper reason for the discrepancy.
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The slope of your graph will have units. What will be the units of that slope, and what should be the meaning of the slope?
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The slope shows the relationship between the pressure difference and the pressure ratio. The graph perfectly displays how these factors are directly proportional. Also, I believe the units to be in Pa.
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Please see my notes and submit a copy of this document with revisions, comments and/or questions, and mark your insertions with &&&& (please mark each insertion at the beginning and at the end).
Be sure to include the entire document, including my notes.
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Also, I sent you an email regarding 3 previous query assignments that you have given back. They all say error when I try to click on them. I was wondering if I need to resubmit them or something?
Thanks for the help and comments on the work.
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Self-critique (if necessary):
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Self-critique rating:
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Good. Check my note.
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Do note that the result you obtained is very far from the expected result. This could be explained a small leak somewhere in the 'air column'.
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The rise of the graph is the change in pressure in Pascals, and the run is the change in pressure in atmospheres. What therefore does the slope mean?
Just submit your best answer to this question using the Submit Work form with a title of your choice.
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