Assignment 30

course Phy 232

July 31, at 5:00A couple of problems in the query were different than the problems in the book and I couldnt solve them with just the info given in the query.

030. `Query 30

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Question: `qQuery introductory problem set 54 #'s 14-18.

Explain whether, and if so how, the force on a charged particle due to the field between two capacitor plates is affected by its velocity.

The force between two capacitors is affected by the potential difference between the conductors and the charge on each conductor. The acceleration of the particles may come into play because work is involved, but I dont think that velocity comes into play.

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Your Solution:

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Given Solution:

** There is a force due to the electric field between the plates, but the effect of an electric field does not depend on velocity.

The plates of a capacitor do not create a magnetic field. **

Explain whether, and if so how, the force on a charged particle due to the magnetic field created by a wire coil is affected by its velocity.

** A wire coil does create a magnetic field perpendicular to the plane of the coil.

If the charged particle moves in a direction perpendicular to the coil then a force F = q v B is exerted by the field perpendicular to both the motion of the particle and the direction of the field. The precise direction is determined by the right-hand rule. **

Explain how the net force changes with velocity as a charged particle passes through the field between two capacitor plates, moving perpendicular to the constant electric field, in the presence of a constant magnetic field oriented perpendicular to both the velocity of the particle and the field of the capacitor.

** At low enough velocities the magnetic force F = q v B is smaller in magnitude than the electrostatic force F = q E. At high enough velocities the magnetic force is greater in magnitude than the electrostatic force. At a certain specific velocity, which turns out to be v = E / B, the magnitudes of the two forces are equal.

If the perpendicular magnetic and electric fields exert forces in opposite directions on the charged particle then when the magnitudes of the forces are equal the net force on the particle is zero and it passes through the region undeflected. **

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Question: `qquery univ 27.60 (28.46 10th edition). cyclotron 3.5 T field.

What is the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 2.7 MeV?

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Your Solution:

Things that we know...

Magnetic Field

Kinetic Energy of Protons

Mass of a proton

Charge of a proton

Things we need to find...

radius of orbit

angular velocity

Using the equation for angular velcoity we can easily find it since we know the charge, mass, and magnetic field:

omega = (1.16*10^-19)*(3.5 T)/(1.67*10^-27 kg) = 3.35 *10^8 rad/s

since radius = velocity/omega, all we need is the velocity to find the radius.

KE = 1/2mv^2, so v = sqrt(2*KE/m) = sqrt(2*2.7 MeV/1.67*10^-27 kg)

We need to convert MeV to J:

2.7*10^6 eV/(6.24*10^18 eV/J) = 4.33*10^-13 J

so v = sqrt(4.33*10^-13 J*2/(1.67*10^-27 kg)) = 2.27*10^7 m/s

radius=v/omega = 2.27*10^7 m/s/(3.35*10^8 rad/s) = 6.8 cm

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Given Solution:

We know that the centripetal force for an object moving in a circle is

F = m v^2 / r.

In a magnetic field perpendicular to the velocity this force is equal to the magnetic force F = q v B.

So we have m v^2 / r = q v B so that

r = m v / (q B).

A proton with ke 2.7 MeV = 2.7 * 10^6 * (1.6 * 10^-19 J) = 3.2 * 10^-13 J has velocity such that

v = sqrt(2 KE / m) = sqrt(2 * 3.2 * 10^-13 J / (1.67 * 10^-27 kg) ) = 2.3 * 10^7 m/s approx..

So we have

r = m v / (q B) = 1.67 * 10^-27 kg * 2.3 * 10^7 m/s / (1.6 * 10^-19 C * 3.5 T) = .067 m approx. **

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Question: `qWhat is the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 5.4 MeV?

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Your Solution: All that changes here is K.E.

omega will stay the same

sqrt(2)*2.27*10^7 m/s = 3.21*10^7 m/s = v

so r = 3.21*10^7 m/s/(3.35*10^8 rad/s) = 9.6 cm

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Given Solution:

** Doubling the KE of the proton increases velocity by factor sqrt(2) and therefore increases the radius of the orbit by the same factor. We end up with a radius of about .096 m. **

STUDENT QUESTION

what numbers were used to find this?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

In Problem 27.60, above, we found the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 2.7 MeV.

Here we are finding the radius for a proton with twice the KE.

We could do this in the same manner as before, and we would get the same result.

However thinking in terms of the proportionality, as is done here, is both more efficient and more instructive.

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Question: `qquery univ 28.73 (was 28.52) rail gun bar mass m with current I across rails, magnetic field B perpendicular to loop formed by bars and rails

What is the expression for the magnitude of the force on the bar, and what is the direction of the force?

I did 28.73 in the 11th edition but it is a completely different problem . . . .

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Question: `qquery 28.66 u quark + 2/3 e and d quark -1/3 e counterclockwise, clockwise in neutron (r = 1.20 * 10^-15 m)

What are the current and the magnetic moment produced by the u quark?

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Your Solution:

This problem is different than the one in the book as well.

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Question: `qquery univ 28.68 (29.56 10th edition) infinite L-shaped conductor toward left and downward. Point a units to right of L along line of current from left. Current I.

What is the magnetic field at the specified point?

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Your Solution:

One side of the L shaped conductor is parallel to the Point. So the magnetic field due to that side would be 0.

So due to the vertical leg with infinite length, the magnetic field at point P would be:

B = mu0*I/(2*pi*a), with a being the distance from the conductor to the point.

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Given Solution:

STUDENT RESPONSE FOLLOWED BY SOLUTION:

I could not figure out the magnetic field affecting point P. the current is cursing

** I assume you mean 'coursing', though the slip is understandable **

toward P then suddnely turns down at a right angle. If I assume that the magnetic field of a thin wire is radial in all directions perpendicular to the wire, then it is possible that at least one field line would be a straight line from the wire to point P. It seems to me that from that field line,down the to the lower length of the wire, would affect at P.

SOLUTION:

The r vector from any segment along the horizontal section of the wire would be parallel to the current segment, so sin(theta) would be 0 and the contribution `dB = k ' I `dL / r^2 sin(theta) would be zero. So the horizontal section contributes no current at the point.

Let the y axis be directed upward with its origin at the 'bend'. Then a segment of length `dy at position y will lie at distance r = sqrt(y^2 + a^2) from the point and the sine of the angle from the r vector to the point is a / sqrt(y^2 + a^2). The field resulting from this segment is therefore

`dB = k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt(a^2 + y^2).

Crossing the I `dy vector with the r vector tells us the `dB is coming at us out of the paper (fingers extended along neg y axis, ready to 'turn' toward r results in thumb pointing up toward us away from the paper). This is the direction for all `dB contributions so B will have the same direction.

Summing all contributions we have sum(k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt(a^2 + y^2), y from 0 to -infinity).

Taking the limit as `dy -> 0 we get the integral of k ' I a / (a^2 + y^2)^(3/2) with respect to y, with y from 0 to -infinity.

This integral is -k ' I / a. So the field is

B = - k ' I / a, directed upward out of the page. **

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QUESTION: Lets say the conductor was a straight line (an I shape)..Conductor has a length a, and the point is a distance x from the conductor and a/2 from the top of the conductor (so it is in the middle). Will the magnetic field pull the point at a zero degree angle with the x-axis (straight across with no angle)? If the point wasnt perpendicular to the middle of the conductor, is this what causes the magnetic field to pull it at an angle? (I wish I could draw you a picture, sorry if this is confusing).

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Assignment 30

course Phy 232

July 31, at 5:00A couple of problems in the query were different than the problems in the book and I couldnt solve them with just the info given in the query.

030. `Query 30

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Question: `qQuery introductory problem set 54 #'s 14-18.

Explain whether, and if so how, the force on a charged particle due to the field between two capacitor plates is affected by its velocity.

The force between two capacitors is affected by the potential difference between the conductors and the charge on each conductor. The acceleration of the particles may come into play because work is involved, but I dont think that velocity comes into play.

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Your Solution:

confidence rating:

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Given Solution:

** There is a force due to the electric field between the plates, but the effect of an electric field does not depend on velocity.

The plates of a capacitor do not create a magnetic field. **

Explain whether, and if so how, the force on a charged particle due to the magnetic field created by a wire coil is affected by its velocity.

** A wire coil does create a magnetic field perpendicular to the plane of the coil.

If the charged particle moves in a direction perpendicular to the coil then a force F = q v B is exerted by the field perpendicular to both the motion of the particle and the direction of the field. The precise direction is determined by the right-hand rule. **

Explain how the net force changes with velocity as a charged particle passes through the field between two capacitor plates, moving perpendicular to the constant electric field, in the presence of a constant magnetic field oriented perpendicular to both the velocity of the particle and the field of the capacitor.

** At low enough velocities the magnetic force F = q v B is smaller in magnitude than the electrostatic force F = q E. At high enough velocities the magnetic force is greater in magnitude than the electrostatic force. At a certain specific velocity, which turns out to be v = E / B, the magnitudes of the two forces are equal.

If the perpendicular magnetic and electric fields exert forces in opposite directions on the charged particle then when the magnitudes of the forces are equal the net force on the particle is zero and it passes through the region undeflected. **

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Question: `qquery univ 27.60 (28.46 10th edition). cyclotron 3.5 T field.

What is the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 2.7 MeV?

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Your Solution:

Things that we know...

Magnetic Field

Kinetic Energy of Protons

Mass of a proton

Charge of a proton

Things we need to find...

radius of orbit

angular velocity

Using the equation for angular velcoity we can easily find it since we know the charge, mass, and magnetic field:

omega = (1.16*10^-19)*(3.5 T)/(1.67*10^-27 kg) = 3.35 *10^8 rad/s

since radius = velocity/omega, all we need is the velocity to find the radius.

KE = 1/2mv^2, so v = sqrt(2*KE/m) = sqrt(2*2.7 MeV/1.67*10^-27 kg)

We need to convert MeV to J:

2.7*10^6 eV/(6.24*10^18 eV/J) = 4.33*10^-13 J

so v = sqrt(4.33*10^-13 J*2/(1.67*10^-27 kg)) = 2.27*10^7 m/s

radius=v/omega = 2.27*10^7 m/s/(3.35*10^8 rad/s) = 6.8 cm

confidence rating:

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Given Solution:

We know that the centripetal force for an object moving in a circle is

F = m v^2 / r.

In a magnetic field perpendicular to the velocity this force is equal to the magnetic force F = q v B.

So we have m v^2 / r = q v B so that

r = m v / (q B).

A proton with ke 2.7 MeV = 2.7 * 10^6 * (1.6 * 10^-19 J) = 3.2 * 10^-13 J has velocity such that

v = sqrt(2 KE / m) = sqrt(2 * 3.2 * 10^-13 J / (1.67 * 10^-27 kg) ) = 2.3 * 10^7 m/s approx..

So we have

r = m v / (q B) = 1.67 * 10^-27 kg * 2.3 * 10^7 m/s / (1.6 * 10^-19 C * 3.5 T) = .067 m approx. **

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Question: `qWhat is the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 5.4 MeV?

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Your Solution: All that changes here is K.E.

omega will stay the same

sqrt(2)*2.27*10^7 m/s = 3.21*10^7 m/s = v

so r = 3.21*10^7 m/s/(3.35*10^8 rad/s) = 9.6 cm

confidence rating:

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Given Solution:

** Doubling the KE of the proton increases velocity by factor sqrt(2) and therefore increases the radius of the orbit by the same factor. We end up with a radius of about .096 m. **

STUDENT QUESTION

what numbers were used to find this?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

In Problem 27.60, above, we found the radius of orbit for a proton with kinetic energy 2.7 MeV.

Here we are finding the radius for a proton with twice the KE.

We could do this in the same manner as before, and we would get the same result.

However thinking in terms of the proportionality, as is done here, is both more efficient and more instructive.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Self-critique Rating: OK

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Question: `qquery univ 28.73 (was 28.52) rail gun bar mass m with current I across rails, magnetic field B perpendicular to loop formed by bars and rails

What is the expression for the magnitude of the force on the bar, and what is the direction of the force?

I did 28.73 in the 11th edition but it is a completely different problem . . . .

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Self-critique Rating:

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Question: `qquery 28.66 u quark + 2/3 e and d quark -1/3 e counterclockwise, clockwise in neutron (r = 1.20 * 10^-15 m)

What are the current and the magnetic moment produced by the u quark?

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Your Solution:

This problem is different than the one in the book as well.

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Question: `qquery univ 28.68 (29.56 10th edition) infinite L-shaped conductor toward left and downward. Point a units to right of L along line of current from left. Current I.

What is the magnetic field at the specified point?

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Your Solution:

One side of the L shaped conductor is parallel to the Point. So the magnetic field due to that side would be 0.

So due to the vertical leg with infinite length, the magnetic field at point P would be:

B = mu0*I/(2*pi*a), with a being the distance from the conductor to the point.

confidence rating:

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Given Solution:

STUDENT RESPONSE FOLLOWED BY SOLUTION:

I could not figure out the magnetic field affecting point P. the current is cursing

** I assume you mean 'coursing', though the slip is understandable **

toward P then suddnely turns down at a right angle. If I assume that the magnetic field of a thin wire is radial in all directions perpendicular to the wire, then it is possible that at least one field line would be a straight line from the wire to point P. It seems to me that from that field line,down the to the lower length of the wire, would affect at P.

SOLUTION:

The r vector from any segment along the horizontal section of the wire would be parallel to the current segment, so sin(theta) would be 0 and the contribution `dB = k ' I `dL / r^2 sin(theta) would be zero. So the horizontal section contributes no current at the point.

Let the y axis be directed upward with its origin at the 'bend'. Then a segment of length `dy at position y will lie at distance r = sqrt(y^2 + a^2) from the point and the sine of the angle from the r vector to the point is a / sqrt(y^2 + a^2). The field resulting from this segment is therefore

`dB = k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt(a^2 + y^2).

Crossing the I `dy vector with the r vector tells us the `dB is coming at us out of the paper (fingers extended along neg y axis, ready to 'turn' toward r results in thumb pointing up toward us away from the paper). This is the direction for all `dB contributions so B will have the same direction.

Summing all contributions we have sum(k ' I `dy / (a^2 + y^2) * a / sqrt(a^2 + y^2), y from 0 to -infinity).

Taking the limit as `dy -> 0 we get the integral of k ' I a / (a^2 + y^2)^(3/2) with respect to y, with y from 0 to -infinity.

This integral is -k ' I / a. So the field is

B = - k ' I / a, directed upward out of the page. **

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QUESTION: Lets say the conductor was a straight line (an I shape)..Conductor has a length a, and the point is a distance x from the conductor and a/2 from the top of the conductor (so it is in the middle). Will the magnetic field pull the point at a zero degree angle with the x-axis (straight across with no angle)? If the point wasnt perpendicular to the middle of the conductor, is this what causes the magnetic field to pull it at an angle? (I wish I could draw you a picture, sorry if this is confusing).

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Self-critique Rating:"

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