course Phy 201
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ph1 query 0Most queries in this course will ask you questions about class notes, readings, text problems and experiments. Since the first two assignments have been lab-related, the first two queries are related to the those exercises. While the remaining queries in this course are in question-answer format, the first two will be in the form of open-ended questions. Interpret these questions and answer them as best you can.
Different first-semester courses address the issues of experimental precision, experimental error, reporting of results and analysis in different ways and at different levels. One purpose of these initial lab exercises is to familiarize your instructor with your work and you with the instructor 's expectations.
Comment on your experience with the three lab exercises you encountered in this assignment or in recent assignments.
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Question: This question, related to the use of the TIMER program in an experimental situation, is posed in terms of a familiar first-semester system.
Suppose you use a computer timer to time a steel ball 1 inch in diameter rolling down a straight wooden incline about 50 cm long. If the computer timer indicates that on five trials the times of an object down an incline are 2.42sec, 2.56 sec, 2.38 sec, 2.47 sec and 2.31 sec, then to what extent do you think the discrepancies could be explained by each of the following:
• The lack of precision of the TIMER program.
To what extent to you think the discrepancies are explained by this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv I don’t think that this will have much of a factor on the discrepancies. As we seen with the timer program, we used concluded that it is accurate to within 0.01 second. With our time periods extending over 1 second, then I would feel that the timer program would be fairly accurate at these times.
• The uncertain precision of human triggering (uncertainty associated with an actual human finger on a computer mouse)
To what extent to you think the discrepancies are explained by this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This would be a major factor on our times. We will never be able to click the mouse the exact instant that the marble crosses a certain point. We will always click on anticipation of when it will cross the line and this will cause the majority of our discrepancies.
• Actual differences in the time required for the object to travel the same distance.
To what extent to you think the discrepancies are explained by this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This should not influence the times, if the ball is released exactly the same way and at the same point then it should travel the same speed.
• Differences in positioning the object prior to release.
To what extent to you think the discrepancies are explained by this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This will have a minor effect on the time. We could possible change the starting point, but generally it will be so close every time that this won’t be much of a factor.
• Human uncertainty in observing exactly when the object reached the end of the incline.
To what extent to you think the discrepancies are explained by this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Along with the click, this has the most influence on our time differences. Like I stated before, we as humans will never stop the clock at the exact point that the marble crosses the line. We will always anticipate it crossing and click then.
Once we're aware of the tendency to anticipate, it becomes possible to overcompensate. Most individuals will still anticipate, but a significant number will overcompensate. These tendencies are to a significant extent hard-wired; combined with psychological factors the entire phenomenon gets complicated. There are some very interesting experiments along these lines, though they're a little too 'soft' to include in a physics course.
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Question: How much uncertainty do you think each of the following would actually contribute to the uncertainty in timing a number of trials for the ball-down-an-incline lab?
• The lack of precision of the TIMER program.
To what extent to you think this factor would contribute to the uncertainty?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv If the ball is traveling for more than one second, then I don’t feel that this will have any effect on the time. If it does it would be so little that it wouldn’t matter.
• The uncertain precision of human triggering (uncertainty associated with an actual human finger on a computer mouse)
To what extent to you think this factor would contribute to the uncertainty?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This would be a major factor on our uncertainty. We will never be able to click the mouse the exact instant that the marble crosses a certain point. We will always click on anticipation of when it will cross the line and this will cause the majority of our discrepancies. This would account for the biggest part of our uncertainty.
• Actual differences in the time required for the object to travel the same distance.
To what extent to you think this factor would contribute to the uncertainty?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This would also have a small part in our uncertainty. The timer program is fairly accurate as long as our times are greater than a second. As our times decrease then this will start to contribute more to the uncertainty.
• Differences in positioning the object prior to release.
To what extent to you think this factor would contribute to the uncertainty?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This will have a minor effect on the uncertainty. We would have a very small amount of uncertainty of where we start the ball.
• Human uncertainty in observing exactly when the object reached the end of the incline.
To what extent to you think this factor would contribute to the uncertainty?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This will also contribute greatly to our uncertainty. We will always have to anticipate the ball reaching the finish line.
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Question: What, if anything, could you do about the uncertainty due to each of the following? Address each specifically.
• The lack of precision of the TIMER program.
What do you think you could do about the uncertainty due to this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv This could be changed to where the timer program uses smaller counting increments to become more precise.
• The uncertain precision of human triggering (uncertainty associated with an actual human finger on a computer mouse)
What do you think you could do about the uncertainty due to this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv To get better precision we must remove the human component. Maybe we could use a gate at the start line and the finish line so that the marble will start the exact way each time and end at the same spot. These gates could trigger the timer program to get exact measurement of start time and stop times.
Good idea.
In the execution, interfacing with the TIMER program would be a problem, but one thing I'm going to introduce is a simple, free sound-editing program. It could easily pick up the sound of the first gate opening, and the second gate being struck. The program detects sounds accurately at the .0001 second level, and even a little better. So accurately that you'd have to either compensate for the different in times it takes sound to reach your speaker from the different gates, or be sure you had the speaker at equal distances from them.
You might want to download the program now. I haven't yet revised instructions for labs. You can easily find it if you google 'audacity sound editor'.
For most purposes the TIMER program is more efficient, but for real precision the sound editor is very hard to beat. Any events that trigger sounds without messing up the thing we're trying to measure can be timed with great precision.
• Actual differences in the time required for the object to travel the same distance.
What do you think you could do about the uncertainty due to this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv If our environment is exactly the same, then we shouldn’t have any uncertainty.
• Differences in positioning the object prior to release.
What do you think you could do about the uncertainty due to this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv We could again use the gate technique that will cause the marble to start at the same point and be released in the same manner every time.
• Human uncertainty in observing exactly when the object reached the end of the incline.
What do you think you could do about the uncertainty due to this factor?
your answer: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv We could again use the gate technique that will cause the marble to start at the same point and be released in the same manner every time.
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Question: If, as in the object-down-an-incline experiment, you know the distance an object rolls down an incline and the time required, explain how you will use this information to find the object 's average speed on the incline.
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Your solution: From earlier lessons we know that we arrive at this answer y dividing the quantity(how far the object travels) by the time(time required) and this gives us the average speed.
confidence rating #$&*: 3
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Question: If an object travels 40 centimeters down an incline in 5 seconds then what is its average velocity on the incline? Explain how your answer is connected to your experience.
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Your solution:
From the previous question we know that average speed = distance traveled/time required. So we have 40cm/5sec = 8cm/sec.
Throughout our labs, we continually used this calculation. Whether it was in the introductory assignment to find the average speed of a car or to find our cycles per second.
confidence rating #$&* 3
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Question: If the same object requires 3 second to reach the halfway point, what is its average velocity on the first half of the incline and what is its average velocity on the second half?
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Your solution: We have our data as 40cm total length. So if we only travel halfway, we are going 20cm in 3 seconds. Knowing our function 20cm/3sec we get 6.67cm/sec for the first half. The second half we would have 20cm/2sec = 10cm/sec. So our marble is speeding up.
confidence rating #$&*: 3
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Question: `qAccording to the results of your introductory pendulum experiment, do you think doubling the length of the pendulum will result in half the frequency (frequency can be thought of as the number of cycles per minute), more than half or less than half?
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Your solution: According to my data, if we double the length of the pendulum then the frequency is going to be reduced to less than half the original. My length of 12 had a frequency of 82 and when I doubled my length, my frequency only was reduced by 20 or approximately 25%.
confidence rating #$&*: 3
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Question: `qNote that for a graph of y vs. x, a point on the x axis has y coordinate zero and a point on the y axis has x coordinate zero. In your own words explain why this is so.
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Your solution:
This is so because the x axis crosses the y axis at the zero point. Therefore if a point has a value of y = 0 then that point will lie on the x axis. We also know that the y axis crosses the x axis at zero. So any coordinate with x of zero will reside on the y axis.
confidence rating #$&* 2, Unsure if I explained it clearly enough. Seems so simple, but yet hard to explain.
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Question: `qOn a graph of frequency vs. pendulum length (where frequency is on the vertical axis and length on the horizontal), what would it mean for the graph to intersect the vertical axis (i.e., what would it mean, in terms of the pendulum and its behavior, if the line or curve representing frequency vs. length goes through the vertical axis)? What would this tell you about the length and frequency of the pendulum?
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Your solution:
This I don’t think is possible because in order to cross the vertical axis or touch the vertical axis our length would have to be either 0 or negative and this cannot happen if we have a pendulum.
confidence rating #$&* 2 Unsure if I understood the question fully.
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Question: `qOn a graph of frequency vs. pendulum length, what would it mean for the graph to intersect the horizontal axis (i.e., what would it mean, in terms of the pendulum and its behavior, if the line or curve representing frequency vs. length goes through the horizontal axis)? What would this tell you about the length and frequency of the pendulum?
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Your solution: If we cross the horizontal axis, the graph would be telling us that we would have a negative frequency and this isn’t possible either, no matter what the length is.
confidence rating #$&* 2, unsure if I understand the question completely.
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Question: `qIf a ball rolls down between two points with an average velocity of 6 cm / sec, and if it takes 5 sec between the points, then how far apart are the points?
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Your solution: If we know that our average speed is 6cm/sec and we travel for 5 seconds, then to find the difference between two points we would just multiply the two together. We know that we are traveling on average 6cm per second. So over 5 seconds we would have 6cm * 5 sec = 30 cm. So our points are 30cm apart.
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Given Solution:
`aOn the average the ball moves 6 centimeters every second, so in 5 seconds it will move 30 cm.
The formal calculation goes like this:
• We know that vAve = `ds / `dt, where vAve is ave velocity, `ds is displacement and `dt is the time interval.
• It follows by algebraic rearrangement that `ds = vAve * `dt.
• We are told that vAve = 6 cm / sec and `dt = 5 sec. It therefore follows that
• `ds = 6 cm / sec * 5 sec = 30 (cm / sec) * sec = 30 cm.
The details of the algebraic rearrangement are as follows:
• vAve = `ds / `dt. We multiply both sides of the equation by `dt:
• vAve * `dt = `ds / `dt * `dt. We simplify to obtain
• vAve * `dt = `ds, which we then write as{}`ds = vAve *`dt
Be sure to address anything you do not fully understand in your self-critique.
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Your solution: I fully understand the solution.
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Question: `qYou were asked to read the text and some of the problems at the end of the section. Tell your instructor about something in the text you understood up to a point but didn't understand fully. Explain what you did understand, and ask the best question you can about what you didn't understand.
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Your solution:
I understand that we cannot measure to exact precision, but when we are dealing with estimated uncertainty, do we always just increment our lowest unit by one and that is our uncertainty? Is there a standard that is used to figure out this?
The standard answer is that we assume an uncertainty of +- 1 of our smallest unit of precision. However, depending on how well we can 'see' that smallest unit, we can get pretty close to +- 1/2 of a unit.
A more sophisticated answer can be given in terms of the statistics of the normal distribution, but in this course we're not going to go into a whole lot of depth with that. A calculus background would be just about required to understand the analysis well enough to apply it meaningfully.
STUDENT QUESTION: I understood the portion discussing the nature of science and felt familiar with much of the measurement. What I did not fully understand was how do you know when to write an answer using the powers of 10 or to leave it alone? Several of the tables had values in powers of 10 for metric prefixes such as centi and mili.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE
Whether you use scientific notation or not depends a lot on the context of the situation.
As a rule of thumb, I would recommend going to scientific notation for numbers greater than a million (10^6) and less than a millionth (10^-6). When numbers outside this range are involved in an analysis it's a good idea to put everything into scientific notation.
And when you know that scientific notation is or is not expected by your audience, write your numbers accordingly.
QUESTION RELATED TO UNIVERSITY PHYSICS (relevant only to University Physics students)
I don’t fully understand the dot product rule
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE
The dot product of vectors A = a_1 i + a_2 j + a_3 k and B = b_1 i + b_2 j + b_3 k is a_1 * b_1 + a_2 * b_2 + a_3 * b_3. The dot product is simply a number.
The magnitude of A is | A | = sqrt( a_1 ^ 2 + a^2 ^ 2 + a_3 ^ 2); the magnitude of B is found in a similar manner.
The dot product is equal to | A | * | B | * cos(theta), where theta is the angle between the two vectors.
If you have the coefficients of the i, j and k vectors, it is easy to calculate the dot product, and it's easy to calculate the magnitudes of the two vectors. Setting the two expressions for the dot product equal to one another, we can easily solve for cos(theta), which we can then use to find theta.
More importantly for physics, we can find the projection of one vector on another. The projection of A on B is just the component of A in the direction of B, equal to | A | cos(theta). The projection of one vector on another is important in a number of situations (e.g., the projection of the force vector on the displacement, multiplied by the displacement, is the work done by the force on the interval corresponding to the displacement).
Dot products are a standard precalculus concept. Check the documents at the links below for an introduction to vectors and dot products. You are welcome to complete these documents, in whole or in part, and submit your work. If you aren't familiar with dot products, it is recommended you do so.
http://vhcc2.vhcc.edu/dsmith/genInfo/qa_query_etc/pc2/pc2_qa_09.htm
http://vhcc2.vhcc.edu/dsmith/genInfo/qa_query_etc/pc2/pc2_qa_10.htm
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Question: `qTell your instructor about something in the problems you understand up to a point but don't fully understand. Explain what you did understand, and ask the best question you can about what you didn't understand.
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Your solution: I fully understand how to calculate uncertainty, but what if the uncertainty isn’t given? For example, problem 6 asks us for the uncertainty of 1.67. Do we just use .01 as the uncertainty?
Depending on the nature of the instrument and the observation, +- .01 might be necessary, but we could go to +-.005 if can regard 1.67 as an accurate roundoff.
Without very good reason, though, +-.01 would be the safer assumption.
SOME COMMON QUESTIONS:
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QUESTION: I didn’t understand how to calculate uncertainty for a number such as 1.34. When given examples we had problems such as 1.34 ±0.5 and with that we had a formula (0.5/1.34)*100. So I do not understand how to compute uncertainty when no estimated uncertainty is given.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:
The +- number is the uncertainty in the measurement.
The percent uncertainty is the uncertainty, expressed as a percent of the number being observed.
So the question in this case is simply, 'what percent of 1.34 is 0.5?'.
• 0.5 / 1.34 = .037, approximately. So 0.5 is .037 of 1.34.
• .037 is the same as 3.7%.
I recommend understanding the principles of ratio, proportion and percent as opposed to using a formula. These principles are part of the standard school curriculum, though it does not appear that these concepts have been well mastered by the majority of students who have completed the curriculum. However most students who have the prerequisites for this course do fine with these ideas, after a little review. It will in the long run save you time to do so.
There are numerous Web resources available for understanding these concepts. You should check out these resources and let me know if you have questions.
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QUESTION: I understood the main points of changing the different units, but I’m not sure when in the problem I should change the number to 10 raised to a certain power. In example 1-8 I did not understand why they changed 70 beats/min to 2 x 10^9 s.
2 * 10^9 is about the number of seconds in 70 years.
70 beats / min were not changed to 2 * 10^9 seconds; in changing the beats / minute to beats in a lifetime, there was a step where it was necessary to multiply by 2 * 10^9 seconds.
The example actually used 80 beats / min as a basis for the solution. This was converted to beats / second by the calculation
80 beats / min * 1 minute / (60 seconds), which would yield about 1.33 beats / second.
This was then multiplied by 2 * 10^9 seconds to get the number of beats in a lifetime:
2 * 10^9 seconds * 1.33 beats / second = 3 * 10^9 beats.
In the given solution 80 beats / min * 1 minute / (60 seconds) was not actually calculated; instead 80 beats / min * 1 minute / (60 seconds) was multiplied by 2 * 10^9 seconds in one step
80 beats / min * 1 minute / (60 seconds) * 2 * 10^9 seconds = 3 * 10^9 beats.
In your instructor's opinion the unit 'beats' should have been left in the result; the text expressed the result simply as 3 * 10^9, apparently ignoring the fact that the unit 'beats' was included in the quantities on the left-hand side.
Also the text identified this number as 3 trillion. In the British terminology this would be correct; in American terminology this number would be 3 billion, not 3 trillion.
COMMENT:
I thought that these problems were pretty basic and felt that I understood them well. However, when I got to questions 14 (determine your own mass in kg) and 15 (determining how many meters away the Sun is from the Earth), I did not understand how to complete these. I know my weight in pounds, but how can that be converted to mass in kilograms? I can look up how to convert miles to meters, but is this something I should already know?
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:
Both of these questions could be answered knowing that an object with a mass of 1 kg has a weight of 2.2 lb, and that an inch is 2.54 centimeters. This assumes that you know how many feet in a mile, and that the Sun is 93 million miles away. All these things should be common knowledge, but it doesn't appear to be so.
For my own weight I would reason as follows:
I weigh 170 lb and every kg of my mass weighs 2.2 lb. I'll have fewer kg of mass than I will pounds of weight, so it's reasonable to conclude that my mass is 170 / 2.2 kg, or about 78 kg.
More formally 170 lb * (1 kg / (2.2 lb) ) = 170 / 2.2 kg = 78 kg, approx.. (technical point: this isn't really right because pounds and kilograms don't measure the same thing--pounds measure force and kg measure mass--but we'll worry about that later in the course).
Converting 93 million miles to kilometers:
93 million miles * (5280 feet / mile) * (12 inches / foot) * (2.54 cm / inch) * (1 meter / (100 cm) ) = 160 billion meters (approx.) or 160 million kilometers.
QUESTION
What proved to be most tricky in the problems portion was the scientific notation. I am somewhat familiar with this from
past math classes, but had trouble when dealing with using the powers of 10. I had trouble dealing with which way to move my decimal according to the problems that were written as 10^-3 versus 10^3. Which way do you move the decimal when dealing with negative or positive powers of 10?
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE
Using your numbers, 10^3 means 10 * 10 * 10 = 1000.
• When you multiply a number by 1000 you move the decimal accordingly. For example 3.5 * 1000 = 3500.
10^-3 means 1 / 10^3 = 1 / (10 * 10 * 10) = 1 / 1000.
• When you multiply by 10^-3 you are therefore multiplying by 1 / 1000, which is the same as dividing by 1000, or multiplying by .001.
• For example 3.5 * 10^-3 = 3.5 * .001 = .0035.
• As another example 5 700 000 * 10^-3 would be 5 700 000 * (1 / 1000) = 5 700.
• From these examples you should be able to infer how the decimal point moves.
You can also search the Web under 'laws of exponents', 'arithmetic in scientific notation', and other keywords.
There isn't a single site I can recommend, and if I did find a good one its URL might change by the time you try to locate it. In any case it's best to let you judge the available materials yourself.
When searching under 'arithmetic in scientific notation' using Google, the following appear as additional suggested search phrases:
scientific notation
exponents
scientific notation metric prefixes
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addition and subtraction with scientific notation
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'scientific notation lessons' might be a good place to look.
QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES
1)In the text question five asks for the percent uncertainty of a measurement given 1.57 m^2
I think that we figure this by an uncertainty of .01/1.57m^2 = .6369 or approximately one. ??????Am I correct in how I
calculate this??????? Can I asuume that if the number given was 1.579 then we would calculate it by .001/1.57 = .1 % approximately or am I incorrect?????
You're on the right track.
There are two ways to look at this.
1.57 m^2 represents a quantity which rounds off to 1.57, so presumably lies between 1.565 and 1.575.
This means that the quantity is within .005 of 1.57.
.005 / 1.57 = .003, approx., so the uncertainty is .003 of 1.57, which is the same as 0.3%, of 1.57.
Another way to look at it:
1.57 could be interpreted to mean a number between 1.56 and 1.58. The uncertainty would then be .01, which is .01 / 1.57 = .006, or 6%, of 1.57.
2)In the text question number 11 the book asks what is the percent uncertainty in the volume of a sphere whose radius is
r=2.86 plus or minus .09.
I know that the Volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi r^3, so I calculated the volume to be 4/3 pi (2.86)^3 = 97.99 and to get the
percent uncertainty I tried to divide 0.09/97.99 * 100 =.091846, but the book answer is 9% ??????I am not sure what i am doing wrong here?????????????????
Again there are two ways to approach this.
I believe the book tells you that the uncertainty in the square of a number is double the uncertainty in the number, and the uncertainty in the cube of the number is trip the uncertainty in the number.
An uncertainty of .09 in a measurement of 2.86 is .09 / 2.86 = .03, approx., or about 3%. As you state, you cube the radius to find the volume. When 2.86 is cubed, the resulting number has three times the uncertainty, or about 9%.
Another approach:
Calculate the volume for r = 2.86.
Then calculate the volume for r = 2.86 - .09 = 2.77.
You will find that the resulting volumes differ by about 9%.
You could just as well have calculated the volume for r = 2.86 + .09 = 2.95. Again you would find that the volume differs from the r = 2.86 volume by about 9%.
QUESTION RELATED TO UNIVERSITY PHYSICS (relevant only to University Physics students)
I understand everything but the part on measuring the individual i j k vectors by using cosine.
INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE
It's not completely clear what you are asking, but I suspect it has to do with direction cosines.
The vector A = a_1 i + a_2 j + a_3 k makes angles with the directions of the x axis, the y axis and the z axis.
Let's consider first the x axis.
The direction of the x axis is the same as the direction of the unit vector i.
The projection of A on the x direction is just a_1. This is obvious, but it can also be found by projecting the A vector on the i vector.
This projection is just | A | cos(alpha), where alpha is the angle between A and the x direction.
Now A dot i = A = (a_1 i + a_2 j + a_3 k) dot i = A = a_1 i dot i + a_2 j dot i + a_3 k dot i = a_1 * 1 + a_2 * 0 + a_3 * 0 = a_1.
It's also the case that A dot i = | A | | i | cos(alpha). Since | i | = 1, it follows that A dot i = | A | cos(alpha), so that
• cos(alpha) = A dot i / | A | = a_1 / sqrt( a_1 ^ 2 + a_2 ^ 2 + a_3 ^ 2 ).
Making the convention that alpha is the angle made by the vector with the x direction, we say that cos(alpha) is the direction cosine of the vector with the x axis.
If beta and gamma are, respectively, the angles with the y and z axes, reasoning similar to the above tells us that
• cos(beta) = a_2 / sqrt( a_1 ^ 2 + a_2 ^ 2 + a_3 ^ 2 ) and
• cos(gamma) = a_3 / sqrt( a_1 ^ 2 + a_2 ^ 2 + a_3 ^ 2 ).
cos(alpha), cos(beta) and cos(gamma) are called the 'direction cosines of the vector A' with respect to the three coordinate axes.
Recall that alpha, beta and gamma are the angles made the the vector with the three respective coordinate axes.
If we know the direction cosines and the magnitude of the vector, we can among other things find its projection on any of the coordinate axes.
Please feel free to include additional comments or questions:
My questions were answered by your question/answer section.
Excellent work. See my notes, which amplify some of your questions a little more.