Queries 12-19

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assignment #012

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07-02-2006

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17:52:57

query doppler shift experiment (experiment was to be read and viewed only) **** explain why the frequency of the sound observed when the buzzer moves toward you is greater than that of the stationary buzzer and why this frequency is greater than that observed when the buzzer is moving away from you

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17:54:55

query doppler shift experiment (experiment was to be read and viewed only) **** explain why the frequency of the sound observed when the buzzer moves toward you is greater than that of the stationary buzzer and why this frequency is greater than that observed when the buzzer is moving away from you

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The buzzer is actually moving in a circle which means it exists in three dimentions but is moving in two dimentions with relation to the listener. However, using trigonometry we can determine that at almost all times the buzzer is moving either towards or away from the listener so I will explain this in terms of one dimention.

When a buzzer is 'buzzing' it is emitting sound waves at a certain frequency. This frequency appears to change when the buzzer moves toward or away from the listener but the actual frequency never changes from the original frequency. By frequency we mean that a certain number of sound waves are emitted in a given time interval (usually x number of cycles in a second). So since each of the waves travel at the same velocity they will arrive at a certain vantage point at the same frequency that they are emitted. So If a 'listener' were at this given vantage point 'listening', then the listener would percieve the frequency to be what it actually is. Now, if the buzzer were moving toward the listener then the actual frequency being emitted by the buzzer would remain the same. However, the frequency percieved by the listener would be higher than the actual frequency. This is because, at rest or when the buzzer is not moving, all of the waves that are emitted are traveling at the same velocity and are emitted from the same location so they all travel the same distance. But, when the buzzer is moving toward the listener, the waves are still emitted at the same frequency, and the waves still travel at the same velocity, but the buzzer is moving toward the listener, so when a wave is emitted the buzzer closes the distance between it and the listener a little bit and there fore the next wave emitted travels less distance than the previous wave. So the end result is that each wave takes less time to reach the listener than the previously emitted wave. This means that more waves will reach the listener in a given time interval than when the buzzer was at rest even though the waves are still being emitted at the same rate. This is why the frequency is percieved to be higher when the buzzer is moving toward the listener.

By the same token, if the same buzzer were moving away from the listener then the actual frequency of the waves emitted from the buzzer would be the same as if it were at rest, but the frequency percieved by the listener will be lower than the actual frequency. This is because, again at rest the actual frequency will be the percieved frequency. But when the buzzer is moving away from the listener, the actual frequency stays the same, the velocity of the waves stays the same, but because the buzzer moves away from the listener a little bit more each time it emits a wave, the distance that each wave must travel is a little bit more than the previously emitted wave. So therefore, less waves will pass by the listener in a given time interval than if the buzzer were not moving. This will result in a lower percieved frequency than the actual frequency.

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17:55:13

** The 'pulses' emitted by an approaching source in a certain time interval are all received in a shorter time interval, since the last 'pulse' is emitted closer to the source than the first and therefore arrives sooner than if the source was still. So the frequency is higher.

If the source is moving away then the last 'pulse' is emitted further from the source than if the source was still, hence arrives later, so the pulses are spread out over a longer time interval and the frequency is lower.

GOOD EXPLANATION FROM STUDENT:

Well, for the purposes of this explanation, I am going to explain the movement of the buzzer in one dimention which will be towards and away. The buzzer is actually moving in a circle which means it exists in three dimentions but is moving in two dimentions with relation to the listener. However, using trigonometry we can determine that at almost all times the buzzer is moving either towards or away from the listener so I will explain this in terms of one dimention.

}When a buzzer is 'buzzing' it is emitting sound waves at a certain frequency. This frequency appears to change when the buzzer moves toward or away from the listener but the actual frequency never changes from the original frequency. By frequency we mean that a certain number of sound waves are emitted in a given time interval (usually x number of cycles in a second). So since each of the waves travel at the same velocity they will arrive at a certain vantage point at the same frequency that they are emitted. So If a 'listener' were at this given vantage point 'listening', then the listener would percieve the frequency to be what it actually is. Now, if the buzzer were moving toward the listener then the actual frequency being emitted by the buzzer would remain the same. However, the frequency percieved by the listener would be higher than the actual frequency. This is because, at rest or when the buzzer is not moving, all of the waves that are emitted are traveling at the same velocity and are emitted from the same location so they all travel the same distance. But, when the buzzer is moving toward the listener, the waves are still emitted at the same frequency, and the waves still travel at the same velocity, but the buzzer is moving toward the listener, so when a wave is emitted the buzzer closes the distance between it and the listener a little bit and there fore the next wave emitted travels less distance than the previous wave. So the end result is that each wave takes less time to reach the listener than the previously emitted wave. This means that more waves will reach the listener in a given time interval than when the buzzer was at rest even though the waves are still being emitted at the same rate. This is why the frequency is percieved to be higher when the buzzer is moving toward the listener.

By the same token, if the same buzzer were moving away from the listener then the actual frequency of the waves emitted from the buzzer would be the same as if it were at rest, but the frequency percieved by the listener will be lower than the actual frequency. This is because, again at rest the actual frequency will be the percieved frequency. But when the buzzer is moving away from the listener, the actual frequency stays the same, the velocity of the waves stays the same, but because the buzzer moves away from the listener a little bit more each time it emits a wave, the distance that each wave must travel is a little bit more than the previously emitted wave. So therefore, less waves will pass by the listener in a given time interval than if the buzzer were not moving. This will result in a lower percieved frequency than the actual frequency. **

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17:55:19

** The 'pulses' emitted by an approaching source in a certain time interval are all received in a shorter time interval, since the last 'pulse' is emitted closer to the source than the first and therefore arrives sooner than if the source was still. So the frequency is higher.

If the source is moving away then the last 'pulse' is emitted further from the source than if the source was still, hence arrives later, so the pulses are spread out over a longer time interval and the frequency is lower.

GOOD EXPLANATION FROM STUDENT:

Well, for the purposes of this explanation, I am going to explain the movement of the buzzer in one dimention which will be towards and away. The buzzer is actually moving in a circle which means it exists in three dimentions but is moving in two dimentions with relation to the listener. However, using trigonometry we can determine that at almost all times the buzzer is moving either towards or away from the listener so I will explain this in terms of one dimention.

}When a buzzer is 'buzzing' it is emitting sound waves at a certain frequency. This frequency appears to change when the buzzer moves toward or away from the listener but the actual frequency never changes from the original frequency. By frequency we mean that a certain number of sound waves are emitted in a given time interval (usually x number of cycles in a second). So since each of the waves travel at the same velocity they will arrive at a certain vantage point at the same frequency that they are emitted. So If a 'listener' were at this given vantage point 'listening', then the listener would percieve the frequency to be what it actually is. Now, if the buzzer were moving toward the listener then the actual frequency being emitted by the buzzer would remain the same. However, the frequency percieved by the listener would be higher than the actual frequency. This is because, at rest or when the buzzer is not moving, all of the waves that are emitted are traveling at the same velocity and are emitted from the same location so they all travel the same distance. But, when the buzzer is moving toward the listener, the waves are still emitted at the same frequency, and the waves still travel at the same velocity, but the buzzer is moving toward the listener, so when a wave is emitted the buzzer closes the distance between it and the listener a little bit and there fore the next wave emitted travels less distance than the previous wave. So the end result is that each wave takes less time to reach the listener than the previously emitted wave. This means that more waves will reach the listener in a given time interval than when the buzzer was at rest even though the waves are still being emitted at the same rate. This is why the frequency is percieved to be higher when the buzzer is moving toward the listener.

By the same token, if the same buzzer were moving away from the listener then the actual frequency of the waves emitted from the buzzer would be the same as if it were at rest, but the frequency percieved by the listener will be lower than the actual frequency. This is because, again at rest the actual frequency will be the percieved frequency. But when the buzzer is moving away from the listener, the actual frequency stays the same, the velocity of the waves stays the same, but because the buzzer moves away from the listener a little bit more each time it emits a wave, the distance that each wave must travel is a little bit more than the previously emitted wave. So therefore, less waves will pass by the listener in a given time interval than if the buzzer were not moving. This will result in a lower percieved frequency than the actual frequency. **

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17:55:22

query General College Physics and Principles of Physics: what is a decibel?

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17:55:38

query General College Physics and Principles of Physics: what is a decibel?

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B = 10 log( I / I0 ), where I is the intensity of the sound in units of power per unit area and I0 is the 'hearing threshold' intensity.

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17:56:25

** dB = 10 log( I / I0 ), where I is the intensity of the sound in units of power per unit area and I0 is the 'hearing threshold' intensity.

MORE EXTENSIVE EXPLANATION FROM STUDENT:

Sound is possible because we exist in a medium of air. When a sound is emitted, a concussive force displaces the air around it and some amount energy is transferred into kinetic energy as air particles are smacked away from the force. These particles are now moving away from the initial force and collide into other air particles and send them moving and ultimately through a series of collisions the kinetic energy is traveling out in all directions and the air particles are what is carrying it. The behavior of this kinetic energy is to travel in waves. These waves each carry some amount of kinetic energy and the amount of energy that they carry is the intensity of the waves. Intensities of waves are given as a unit of power which is watts per square meter. Or since the waves travel in all directions they move in three dimentions and this unit measures how many watts of energy hits a square meter of the surface which is measuring the intensity. But we as humans don't percieve the intensities of sound as they really are. For example, a human ear would percieve sound B to be twice as loud as sound A when sound B is actually 10 times as loud as sound A. Or a sound that is ...

1.0 * 10^-10 W/m^2 is actually 10 times louder than a sound that is

1.0 * 10^-11 W/m^2 but the human ear would percieve it to only be twice as loud.

The decibel is a unit of intensity for sound that measures the intensity in terms of how it is percieved to the human ear. Alexander Graham Bell invented the decibel. Bell originally invented the bel which is also a unit of intensity for waves. The decibel is one tenth of a bel and is more commonly used. The formula for determing the intensity in decibels is ...

Intensity in decibles = the logarithm to the base 10 of the sound's intensity/ I base 0

I base 0 is the intensity of some reference level and is usually taken as the minimum intensity audible to an average person which is also called the 'threshold of hearing'.

Since the threshold of hearing is in the denominator, if a sound is this low or lower the resulting intensity will be 0 decibles or inaudible. **

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I had the first part correct but I didn't have the extensive explanation right. So I guess that my answer is alright.

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17:56:32

** dB = 10 log( I / I0 ), where I is the intensity of the sound in units of power per unit area and I0 is the 'hearing threshold' intensity.

MORE EXTENSIVE EXPLANATION FROM STUDENT:

Sound is possible because we exist in a medium of air. When a sound is emitted, a concussive force displaces the air around it and some amount energy is transferred into kinetic energy as air particles are smacked away from the force. These particles are now moving away from the initial force and collide into other air particles and send them moving and ultimately through a series of collisions the kinetic energy is traveling out in all directions and the air particles are what is carrying it. The behavior of this kinetic energy is to travel in waves. These waves each carry some amount of kinetic energy and the amount of energy that they carry is the intensity of the waves. Intensities of waves are given as a unit of power which is watts per square meter. Or since the waves travel in all directions they move in three dimentions and this unit measures how many watts of energy hits a square meter of the surface which is measuring the intensity. But we as humans don't percieve the intensities of sound as they really are. For example, a human ear would percieve sound B to be twice as loud as sound A when sound B is actually 10 times as loud as sound A. Or a sound that is ...

1.0 * 10^-10 W/m^2 is actually 10 times louder than a sound that is

1.0 * 10^-11 W/m^2 but the human ear would percieve it to only be twice as loud.

The decibel is a unit of intensity for sound that measures the intensity in terms of how it is percieved to the human ear. Alexander Graham Bell invented the decibel. Bell originally invented the bel which is also a unit of intensity for waves. The decibel is one tenth of a bel and is more commonly used. The formula for determing the intensity in decibels is ...

Intensity in decibles = the logarithm to the base 10 of the sound's intensity/ I base 0

I base 0 is the intensity of some reference level and is usually taken as the minimum intensity audible to an average person which is also called the 'threshold of hearing'.

Since the threshold of hearing is in the denominator, if a sound is this low or lower the resulting intensity will be 0 decibles or inaudible. **

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17:56:35

gen phy what is the difference between the node-antinode structure of the harmonics a standing wave in a string and in an organ pipe closed at one end

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17:57:00

gen phy what is the difference between the node-antinode structure of the harmonics a standing wave in a string and in an organ pipe closed at one end

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in a string there are nodes at both ends so the harmonics are described the the configurations NAN, NANAN, NANANAN, etc.. In a pipe closed at one end there is a node at one end and an antinode at the other so the possible configurations are NA, NANA, NANANA, etc..

displacement nodes are at both ends of the string, so the structure is N &&& N, where &&& is any sequence of nodes and antinodes that results in an alternating sequence.

The possibilities are NAN, NANAN, NANANAN, ... , containing 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., half-wavelengths in the length of the string. Possible wavelengths are therefore 2 L, 1 L, 2/3 L, ..., where L is string length.

For an open organ pipe the configuration must be N &&& A. Possibilities include NA, NANA, NANANA, NANANANA, ..., containing 1, 3, 5, 7, ..., quarter-wavelengths. Possible wavelengths are therefore 4 L, 4/3 L, 4/5 L, 4/7 L

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17:57:05

** in a string there are nodes at both ends so the harmonics are described the the configurations NAN, NANAN, NANANAN, etc.. In a pipe closed at one end there is a node at one end and an antinode at the other so the possible configurations are NA, NANA, NANANA, etc..

displacement nodes are at both ends of the string, so the structure is N &&& N, where &&& is any sequence of nodes and antinodes that results in an alternating sequence.

The possibilities are NAN, NANAN, NANANAN, ... , containing 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., half-wavelengths in the length of the string. Possible wavelengths are therefore 2 L, 1 L, 2/3 L, ..., where L is string length.

For an open organ pipe the configuration must be N &&& A. Possibilities include NA, NANA, NANANA, NANANANA, ..., containing 1, 3, 5, 7, ..., quarter-wavelengths. Possible wavelengths are therefore 4 L, 4/3 L, 4/5 L, 4/7 L, ... **

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17:57:11

** in a string there are nodes at both ends so the harmonics are described the the configurations NAN, NANAN, NANANAN, etc.. In a pipe closed at one end there is a node at one end and an antinode at the other so the possible configurations are NA, NANA, NANANA, etc..

displacement nodes are at both ends of the string, so the structure is N &&& N, where &&& is any sequence of nodes and antinodes that results in an alternating sequence.

The possibilities are NAN, NANAN, NANANAN, ... , containing 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., half-wavelengths in the length of the string. Possible wavelengths are therefore 2 L, 1 L, 2/3 L, ..., where L is string length.

For an open organ pipe the configuration must be N &&& A. Possibilities include NA, NANA, NANANA, NANANANA, ..., containing 1, 3, 5, 7, ..., quarter-wavelengths. Possible wavelengths are therefore 4 L, 4/3 L, 4/5 L, 4/7 L, ... **

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17:57:14

**** gen phy what are beats?

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17:57:29

**** gen phy what are beats?

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Beats are what happens when the two sounds are close in frequency. Beats occur when the combined sound gets louder then quieter then louder etc. with a frequency equal to the differences of the frequencies of the two sounds.

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17:57:36

** Beats are what happens when the two sounds are close in frequency. Beats occur when the combined sound gets louder then quieter then louder etc. with a frequency equal to the differences of the frequencies of the two sounds. **

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17:57:42

**** query univ phy 16.54 (20.32 10th edition) steel rod 1.5 m why hold only at middle to get fund?? freq of fund??freq of 1st overtone and where held? **** why can the rod be held only at middle to get the fundamental??

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17:57:47

STUDENT SOLUTION WITH INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:

Since the rod is a rigid body it can form the smallest frequency corresponding to the largest wavelength only when held at the center. The smallest frequency corresponding to the largest wavelength is known as the fundamental.

(a) the fingers act as a sort of pivot and the bar performs a teeter - totter motion on either side of the pivot **note: the motion is more like the flapping of a bird's wings, though it obviously doesn't result from the same sort of muscular action but rather from an elastic response to a disturbance, and the motion attenuates over time**. With this manner of motion, the ends have the greatest amount of amplitude, thus making them the antinodes.

(b)Holding the rod at any point other than the center changes the wavelngth of the first harmonic causing one end of the rod to have a smaller wave motion than the other. Since the fundamental frequency is in essence the smallest frequency corresponding to the largest wavelength, offsetting Lwould produce an unappropriatley sized wavelength.

(c)Fundamental frequency of a steel rod:

( 5941 m /s) / [(2/1)(1.5m) = 1980.33Hz

(d) v / (2/2) L = 3960.67Hz --achieved by holding the rod on one end.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:

The ends of the rod are free so it can vibrate in any mode for which the ends are antinodes. The greatest possible wavelength is the one for which the ends are antinodes and the middle is a node (form ANA). Since any place the rod is held must be a node (your hand would quickly absorb the energy of the vibration if there was any wave-associated particle motion at that point) this ANA configuration is possible only if you hold the rod at the middle.

Since a node-antinode distance corresponds to 1/4 wavelength the ANA configuration consists of 1/2 wavelength. So 1/2 wavelength is 1.5 m and the wavelength is 3 m.

At propagation velocity 5941 m/s the 3 m wavelength implies a frequency of 5941 m/s / (3 m) = 1980 cycles/sec or 1980 Hz, approx..

The first overtone occurs with antinodes at the ends and node-antinode-node between, so the configuration is ANANA. This corresponds to 4 quarter-wavelengths, or a full wavelength. The resulting wavelength is 1.5 m and the frequency is about 3760 Hz.

}THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE RELATED TO THIS PROBLEM:

STUDENT RESPONSES WITH INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS INSERTED

To find the amplitudes at 40, 20 and 10 cm from the left end:

The amplitudes are:

at 40 cm 0

at 20 cm .004m

at 10 cm .002828 m

I obtained my results by using the information in the problem to write the equation of the standing wave. Since the cosine function is maximum at 0, I substituted t=0 into the equation and the value of x that I wanted to find the amplitude for.

** wavelength = 192 m/2 / (240 Hz) = .8 m.

Amplitude at x is .4 cm sin(2 `pi x / .8 m) **the maximum transverse velocity and acceleration at each of these points are found from the equation of motion:

`omega = 2 `pi rad * 240 cycles / sec = 480 `pi rad/s.

.004 m * 480 `pi rad/s = 6 m/s approx and .004 m * ( 480 `pi rad/s)^2 = 9000 m/s^2, approx.

.0028 m * 480 `pi rad/s = 4 m/s approx and .0028 m * ( 480 `pi rad/s)^2 = 6432 m/s^2, approx. **

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07-02-2006

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07-02-2006

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17:58:30

query experiment to be viewed and read but not performed: transverse and longitudinal waves in aluminum rod

what is the evidence that the higher-pitched waves are longitudinal while the lower-pitched waves are transverse?

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17:59:36

query experiment to be viewed and read but not performed: transverse and longitudinal waves in aluminum rod

what is the evidence that the higher-pitched waves are longitudinal while the lower-pitched waves are transverse?

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The higher-pitches waves were damped out much more rapidly by touching the very end of the rod, along its central axis, than by touching the rod at the end but on the side.

The frequency with which pulses arrive at the ear determines the pitch.

The amplitude of the wave affects its intensity, or energy per unit area. For a given pitch the energy falling per unit area is proportional to the square of the amplitude.

Intensity is also proportional to the square of the frequency

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17:59:41

STUDENT RESPONSE: The logitudinal waves had a higher velocity.

That doesn't provide evidence that the high-pitched wave was longitudinal, since we didn't directly measure the velocity of those waves. The higher-pitches waves were damped out much more rapidly by touching the very end of the rod, along its central axis, than by touching the rod at the end but on the side.

The frequency with which pulses arrive at the ear determines the pitch.

The amplitude of the wave affects its intensity, or energy per unit area. For a given pitch the energy falling per unit area is proportional to the square of the amplitude.

Intensity is also proportional to the square of the frequency. **

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17:59:48

STUDENT RESPONSE: The logitudinal waves had a higher velocity.

That doesn't provide evidence that the high-pitched wave was longitudinal, since we didn't directly measure the velocity of those waves. The higher-pitches waves were damped out much more rapidly by touching the very end of the rod, along its central axis, than by touching the rod at the end but on the side.

The frequency with which pulses arrive at the ear determines the pitch.

The amplitude of the wave affects its intensity, or energy per unit area. For a given pitch the energy falling per unit area is proportional to the square of the amplitude.

Intensity is also proportional to the square of the frequency. **

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17:59:53

Query General College Physics and Principles of Physics 12.08: Compare the intensity of sound at 120 dB with that of a whisper at 20 dB.

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Query General College Physics and Principles of Physics 12.08: Compare the intensity of sound at 120 dB with that of a whisper at 20 dB.

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The intensity at 120 dB is found by solving the equation dB = 10 log(I / I_threshold) for I.

log(I / I_threshold) = dB / 10, so that

I / I_threshold = 10^(120 / 10) = 12and

I = I_threshold * 10^12.

Since I_threshold = 10^-12 watts / m^2, we have for dB = 120:

I = 10^-12 watts / m^2 * 10^12 = 1 watt / m^2.

The same process tells us that for dB = 20 watts, I = I_threshold * 10^(20 / 10) = 10^-12 watts / m^2 * 10^2 = 10^-10 watts / m^2.

Dividing 1 watt / m^2 by 10^-10 watts / m^2, we find that the 120 dB sound is 10^10 times as intense, or 10 billion times as intense.

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18:01:00

The intensity at 120 dB is found by solving the equation dB = 10 log(I / I_threshold) for I.

We get

log(I / I_threshold) = dB / 10, so that

I / I_threshold = 10^(120 / 10) = 12and

I = I_threshold * 10^12.

Since I_threshold = 10^-12 watts / m^2, we have for dB = 120:

I = 10^-12 watts / m^2 * 10^12 = 1 watt / m^2.

The same process tells us that for dB = 20 watts, I = I_threshold * 10^(20 / 10) = 10^-12 watts / m^2 * 10^2 = 10^-10 watts / m^2.

Dividing 1 watt / m^2 by 10^-10 watts / m^2, we find that the 120 dB sound is 10^10 times as intense, or 10 billion times as intense.

A more elegant solution uses the fact that dB_1 - dB_2 = 10 log(I_1 / I_threshold) - ( 10 log(I_2 / I_threshold) )

= 10 log(I_1 / I_threshold) - ( 10 log(I_2 / I_threshold) )

= 10 {log(I_1) - log( I_threshold) - [ ( log(I_2) - log(I_threshold) ]}

= 10 { log(I_1) - log(I_2)}

= 10 log(I_1 / I_2).

So we have

120 - 20 = 100 = 10 log(I_1 / I_2) and

log(I_1 / I_2) = 100 / 10 = 10 so that

I_1 / I_2 = 10^10.

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18:01:07

The intensity at 120 dB is found by solving the equation dB = 10 log(I / I_threshold) for I.

We get

log(I / I_threshold) = dB / 10, so that

I / I_threshold = 10^(120 / 10) = 12and

I = I_threshold * 10^12.

Since I_threshold = 10^-12 watts / m^2, we have for dB = 120:

I = 10^-12 watts / m^2 * 10^12 = 1 watt / m^2.

The same process tells us that for dB = 20 watts, I = I_threshold * 10^(20 / 10) = 10^-12 watts / m^2 * 10^2 = 10^-10 watts / m^2.

Dividing 1 watt / m^2 by 10^-10 watts / m^2, we find that the 120 dB sound is 10^10 times as intense, or 10 billion times as intense.

A more elegant solution uses the fact that dB_1 - dB_2 = 10 log(I_1 / I_threshold) - ( 10 log(I_2 / I_threshold) )

= 10 log(I_1 / I_threshold) - ( 10 log(I_2 / I_threshold) )

= 10 {log(I_1) - log( I_threshold) - [ ( log(I_2) - log(I_threshold) ]}

= 10 { log(I_1) - log(I_2)}

= 10 log(I_1 / I_2).

So we have

120 - 20 = 100 = 10 log(I_1 / I_2) and

log(I_1 / I_2) = 100 / 10 = 10 so that

I_1 / I_2 = 10^10.

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18:01:40

Query gen phy 12.30 length of open pipe, 262 Hz at 21 C? **** gen phy What is the length of the pipe?

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v = (331 + 0.60 * Temp.) m/s

So v = (331 + 0.60 * 21) m/s

v = 343.6 m/s

The wavelength of the sound is

wavelength = v / f = 343.6 m/s / (262 Hz) = 0.33 meters.

262 Hz = 343.6 m/s / 4 * Length

Length = 0.33 meters

f = v / (wavelength)

262 Hz = [343 m/s] / (wavelength)

wavelength = 1.3 m.

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GOOD STUDENT SOLUTION

First we must determine the velocity of the sound waves given the air temperature. We do this using this formula

v = (331 + 0.60 * Temp.) m/s

So v = (331 + 0.60 * 21) m/s

v = 343.6 m/s

The wavelength of the sound is

wavelength = v / f = 343.6 m/s / (262 Hz) = 0.33 meters.

So 262 Hz = 343.6 m/s / 4 * Length

Length = 0.33 meters

f = v / (wavelength)

262 Hz = [343 m/s] / (wavelength)

wavelength = 1.3 m.

So the wavelength is 1.3 m. If it's an open pipe then there are antinodes at the ends and the wavelength is 2 times the length, so length of the the pipe is about 1.3 m / 2 = .64 m, approx..

Had the pipe been closed at one end then there would be a node and one end and an antinode at the other and the wavelength of the fundamental would have therefore been 4 times the length; the length of the pipe would then have been 1.3 m / 4 = .32 m. **

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18:02:00

**** Univ phy 16.72 (10th edition 21.32):?Crab nebula 1054 A.D.;, H gas, 4.568 * 10^14 Hz in lab, 4.586 from Crab streamers coming toward Earth.?Velocity??Assuming const vel diameter? ? Ang diameter 5 arc minutes; how far is it?

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** Since fR = fS ( 1 - v/c) we have v = (fR / fS - 1) * c = 3 * 10^8 m/s * (4.586 * 10^14 Hz) / (4.568 * 10^14 Hz) = 1.182 * 10^6 m/s, approx.

In the 949 years since the explosion the radius of the nebula would therefore be about 949 years * 365 days / year * 24 hours / day * 3600 seconds / hour * 1.182 * 10^6 m/s = 3.5 * 10^16 meters, the diameter about 7 * 10^16 meters.

5 minutes of arc is 5/60 degrees or 5/60 * pi/180 radians = 1.4 * 10^-3 radians. The diameter is equal to the product of the distance and this angle so the distance is

distance = diameter / angle = 7 * 10^16 m / (1.4 * 10^-3) = 2.4 * 10^19 m.

Dividing by the distance light travels in a year we get the distance in light years, about 6500 light years.

CHECK AGAINST INSTRUCTOR SOLUTION: ** There are about 10^5 seconds in a day, about 3 * 10^7 seconds in a year and about 3 * 10^10 seconds in 1000 years. It's been about 1000 years. So those streamers have had time to move about 1.177 * 10^6 m/s * 3 * 10^10 sec = 3 * 10^16 meters.

That would be the distance of the closest streamers from the center of the nebula. The other side of the nebula would be an equal distance on the other side of the center. So the diameter would be about 6 * 10^16 meters.

A light year is about 300,000 km/sec * 3 * 10^7 sec/year = 9 * 10^12 km = 9 * 10^15 meters. So the nebula is about 3 * 10^16 meters / (9 * 10^15 m / light yr) = 3 light years in diameter, approx.

5 seconds of arc is 5/60 of a degree or 5 / (60 * 360) = 1 / 4300 of the circumference of a full circle, approx.

If 1/4300 of the circumference is 6 * 10^16 meters then the circumference is about 4300 times this distance or about 2.6 * 10^20 meters.

The circumference is 1 / (2 pi) times the radius. We're at the center of this circle since it is from here than the angular diameter is observed, so the distance is about 1 / (2 pi) * 2.6 * 10^20 meters = 4 * 10^19 meters.

This is about 4 * 10^19 meters / (9 * 10^15 meters / light year) = 4400 light years distant.

Check my arithmetic. **

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18:02:12

**** query univ phy 16.66 (21.26 10th edition). 200 mHz refl from fetal heart wall moving toward sound; refl sound mixed with transmitted sound, 85 beats / sec. Speed of sound 1500 m/s.

What is the speed of the fetal heart at the instant the measurement is made?

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. ** 200 MHz is 200 * 10^6 Hz = 2 * 10^8 Hz or 200,000,000 Hz.

The frequency of the wave reflected from the heart will be greater, according to the Doppler shift.

The number of beats is equal to the difference in the frequencies of the two sounds. So the frequency of the reflected sound is 200,000,085 Hz.

The frequency of the sound as experienced by the heart (which is in effect a moving 'listener') is fL = (1 + vL / v) * fs = (1 + vHeart / v) * 2.00 MHz, where v is 1500 m/s.

This sound is then 'bounced back', with the heart now in the role of the source emitting sounds at frequency fs = (1 + vHeart / v) * 2.00 MHz, the 'old' fL. The 'new' fL is

fL = v / (v - vs) * fs = v / (v - vHeart) * (1 + vHeart / v) * 2.00 MHz.

This fL is the 200,000,085 Hz frequency. So we have

200,000,085 Hz = 1500 m/s / (v - vHeart) * (1 + vHeart / v) * 2.00 MHz and

v / (v - vHeart) * (1 + vHeart / v) = 200,000,085 Hz / (200,000,000 Hz) = 1.000000475.

A slight rearrangement gives us

(v + vHeart) / (v - vHeart) = 1.000000475 so that

v + vHeart = 1.000000475 v - 1.000000475 vHeart and

2.000000475 vHeart = .000000475 v, with solution

vHeart = .000000475 v / (2.000000475), very close to

vHeart = .000000475 v / 2 = .000000475 * 1500 m/s / 2 = .00032 m/s,

about .3 millimeters / sec. **

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K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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18:03:29

Query Principles of Physics and General College Physics 12.40: Beat frequency at 262 and 277 Hz; beat frequency two octaves lower.

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The beat frequency is the difference in the frequencies, in this case 277 Hz - 262 Hz = 15 Hz.

One ocatave reduces frequency by half, so two octaves lower would give frequencies 1/4 as great. The difference in the frequencies would therefore also be 1/4 as great, resulting in a beat frequency of 1/4 * 15 Hz = 3.75 Hz.

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18:03:38

The beat frequency is the difference in the frequencies, in this case 277 Hz - 262 Hz = 15 Hz.

One ocatave reduces frequency by half, so two octaves lower would give frequencies 1/4 as great. The difference in the frequencies would therefore also be 1/4 as great, resulting in a beat frequency of 1/4 * 15 Hz = 3.75 Hz.

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18:04:55

Query gen phy problem 12.46 speakers 1.8 meters apart, listener three meters from one and 3.5 m from the other **** gen phy what is the lowest frequency that will permit destructive interference at the location of the listener?

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I first realize that for destructive interference to occur, the path difference is an odd multiple of half of the wavelength(ex. 1/2, 3/2, 5/2). I used Fig.12-17 in the text to help visualize this problem. Part (A) of the problem asks to calculate the lowest frequency at which destructive interference will occur at the point where two loudspeakers are 2.5m apart and one person stands 3.0m from one speaker and 3.5m from the other. The text states that 'destructive interference occurs at any point whose distance from one speaker is greater than its distance from the other speaker by exactly one-half wavelength.' The path difference in the problem is fixed, therefore the lowest frequency at which destructive interference will occur is directly related to the longest wavelength. To calculate the lowest frequency, I first have to calculate the longest wavelength using the equation

'dL ='lambda/2, where `dL is the path difference.

'lambda=2*'dL

=2(3.5m-3.0m)=1m

Now I can calculate the frequency using

f=v/'lambda. The velocity is 343m/s which is the speed of sound.

f=343m/s/1m=343 Hz.

Thus, the lowest frequency at which destructive interference can occur is at 343Hz.

Keeping in mind that destructive interference occurs if the distance equals an odd multiple of the wavelength, I can calculate (B) part of the problem.

To determine the next wavelength, I use the equation 'dL=3'lambda/2

wavelength=2/3(3.5m-3.0m) =0.33m

Now I calculate the next highest frequency using the equation f=v/wavelength.

f^2=343m/s/0.33m=1030Hz.

I finally calculate the next highest frequency.

'del L=5/2 'lambda

wavelength=0.20m

f^3=343m/s/0.2m=1715 Hz.

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18:04:59

STUDENT SOLUTION: To solve this problem, I first realize that for destructive interference to occur, the path difference is an odd multiple of half of the wavelength(ex. 1/2, 3/2, 5/2). I used Fig.12-17 in the text to help visualize this problem. Part (A) of the problem asks to calculate the lowest frequency at which destructive interference will occur at the point where two loudspeakers are 2.5m apart and one person stands 3.0m from one speaker and 3.5m from the other. The text states that 'destructive interference occurs at any point whose distance from one speaker is greater than its distance from the other speaker by exactly one-half wavelength.' The path difference in the problem is fixed, therefore the lowest frequency at which destructive interference will occur is directly related to the longest wavelength. To calculate the lowest frequency, I first have to calculate the longest wavelength using the equation

'dL ='lambda/2, where `dL is the path difference.

'lambda=2*'dL

=2(3.5m-3.0m)=1m

Now I can calculate the frequency using

f=v/'lambda. The velocity is 343m/s which is the speed of sound.

f=343m/s/1m=343 Hz.

Thus, the lowest frequency at which destructive interference can occur is at 343Hz.

Keeping in mind that destructive interference occurs if the distance equals an odd multiple of the wavelength, I can calculate (B) part of the problem.

To determine the next wavelength, I use the equation 'dL=3'lambda/2

wavelength=2/3(3.5m-3.0m) =0.33m

Now I calculate the next highest frequency using the equation f=v/wavelength.

f^2=343m/s/0.33m=1030Hz.

I finally calculate the next highest frequency.

'del L=5/2 'lambda

wavelength=0.20m

f^3=343m/s/0.2m=1715 Hz.

INSTRUCTOR EXPLANATION:

The listener is .5 meters further from one speaker than from the other. If this .5 meter difference results in a half-wavelength lag in the sound from the further speaker, the peaks from the first speaker will meet the troughs from the second. If a half-wavelength corresponds to .5 meters, then the wavelength must be 1 meter. The frequency of a sound with a 1-meter wavelength moving at 343 m/s will be 343 cycles/sec, or 343 Hz.

The next two wavelengths that would result in destructive interference would have 1.5 and 2.5 wavelengths corresponding to the .5 m path difference. The wavelengths would therefore be .5 m / (1.5) = .33 m and .5 m / (2.5) = .2 m, with corresponding frequencies 343 m/s / (.33 m) = 1030 Hz and 343 m/s / (.2 m) = 1720 Hz, approx. ****

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18:05:29

**** gen phy why is there no highest frequency that will permit destructive interference?

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You can get any number of half-wavelengths into that .5 meter path difference.

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18:05:34

** You can get any number of half-wavelengths into that .5 meter path difference. **

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18:05:56

gen phy what must happen in order for the sounds from the two speakers to interfere destructively, assuming that the sources are in phase?

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The path difference has to be and integer number of wavelengths plus a half wavelength

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18:06:00

** The path difference has to be and integer number of wavelengths plus a half wavelength. **

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assignment #015

K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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assignment #015

K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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18:07:38

Principles of Physics and General College Physics Problem 23.08. How far from a concave mirror of radius 23.0 cm must an object be placed to form an image at infinity?

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Principles of Physics and General College Physics Problem 23.08. How far from a concave mirror of radius 23.0 cm must an object be placed to form an image at infinity?

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Recall that the focal distance of this mirror is the distance at which the reflections of rays parallel to the axis of the mirror will converge, and that the focal distance is half the radius of curvature. In this case the focal distance is therefore 1/2 * 23.0 cm = 11.5 cm.

The image will be at infinity if rays emerging from the object are reflected parallel to the mirror. These rays would follow the same path, but in reverse direction, of parallel rays striking the mirror and being reflected to the focal point. So the object would have to be placed at the focal point, 11.5 cm from the mirror.

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18:08:03

Recall that the focal distance of this mirror is the distance at which the reflections of rays parallel to the axis of the mirror will converge, and that the focal distance is half the radius of curvature. In this case the focal distance is therefore 1/2 * 23.0 cm = 11.5 cm.

The image will be at infinity if rays emerging from the object are reflected parallel to the mirror. These rays would follow the same path, but in reverse direction, of parallel rays striking the mirror and being reflected to the focal point. So the object would have to be placed at the focal point, 11.5 cm from the mirror.

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18:08:11

Recall that the focal distance of this mirror is the distance at which the reflections of rays parallel to the axis of the mirror will converge, and that the focal distance is half the radius of curvature. In this case the focal distance is therefore 1/2 * 23.0 cm = 11.5 cm.

The image will be at infinity if rays emerging from the object are reflected parallel to the mirror. These rays would follow the same path, but in reverse direction, of parallel rays striking the mirror and being reflected to the focal point. So the object would have to be placed at the focal point, 11.5 cm from the mirror.

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18:08:15

query gen phy problem 23.14 radius of curvature of 4.5 x lens held 2.2 cm from tooth

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query gen phy problem 23.14 radius of curvature of 4.5 x lens held 2.2 cm from tooth

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if the lens was convex then its focal length would be negative, equal to half the radius. Thus we would have

1 / 2.2 cm + 1 / image distance = -1 / 1.7 cm.

Multiplying by the common denominator 1.7 cm * image distance * 1.7 cm we would get

1.7 cm * image distance + 2.2 cm * 1.7 cm = - 2.2 cm * image distance.

Thus

-3.9 cm * image distance = - 2.2 cm * 1.7 cm.

Solving would give us an image distance of about 1 cm.

Since magnification is equal to image distance / object distance the magnitude of the magnification would be less than .5 and we would not have a 4.5 x magnification.

We have the two equations

1 / image dist + 1 / obj dist = 1 / focal length and

| image dist / obj dist | = magnification = 4.5,

so the image distance would have to be either 4.5 * object distance = 4.5 * 2.2 cm = 9.9 cm or -9.9 cm.

If image dist is 9.9 cm then we have 1 / 9.9 cm + 1 / 2.2 cm = 1/f.

Mult by common denominator to get 2.2 cm * f + 9.9 cm * f = 2.2 cm * 9.9 cm so 12.1 cm * f = 21.8 cm^2 (approx) and f = 1.8 cm.

This solution would give us a radius of curvature of 2 * 1.8 cm = 3.6 cm, since the focal distance is half the radius of curvature.

This positive focal distance implies a concave lens, and the image distance being greater than the object distance the tooth will be more than the focal distance from the lens. For this solution we can see from a ray diagram that the image will be real and inverted. The positive image distance also implies the real image.

The magnification is - image dist / obj dist = (-9.9 cm) / (2.2 cm) = - 4.5, with the negative implying the inverted image whereas we are looking for a +4.5 magnification.

There is also a solution for the -9.9 m image distance. We eventually get 2.2 cm * f - 9.9 cm * f = 2.2 cm * (-9.9) cm so -7.7 cm * f = -21.8 cm^2 (approx) and f = 2.9 cm, approx.

This solution would give us a radius of curvature of 2 * 2.0 cm = 5.8 cm, since the focal distance is half the radius of curvature.

This positive focal distance also implies a concave lens, but this time the object is closer to the lens than the focal length. For this solution we can see from a ray diagram that the image will be virtual and upright. The negative image distance also implies the virtual image.

The magnification is - image dist / obj dist = -(-9.9 cm) / (2.2 cm) = + 4.5 as required; note that the positive image distance implies an upright image. **

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18:08:58

** if the lens was convex then its focal length would be negative, equal to half the radius. Thus we would have

1 / 2.2 cm + 1 / image distance = -1 / 1.7 cm.

Multiplying by the common denominator 1.7 cm * image distance * 1.7 cm we would get

1.7 cm * image distance + 2.2 cm * 1.7 cm = - 2.2 cm * image distance.

Thus

-3.9 cm * image distance = - 2.2 cm * 1.7 cm.

Solving would give us an image distance of about 1 cm.

Since magnification is equal to image distance / object distance the magnitude of the magnification would be less than .5 and we would not have a 4.5 x magnification.

We have the two equations

1 / image dist + 1 / obj dist = 1 / focal length and

| image dist / obj dist | = magnification = 4.5,

so the image distance would have to be either 4.5 * object distance = 4.5 * 2.2 cm = 9.9 cm or -9.9 cm.

If image dist is 9.9 cm then we have 1 / 9.9 cm + 1 / 2.2 cm = 1/f.

Mult by common denominator to get 2.2 cm * f + 9.9 cm * f = 2.2 cm * 9.9 cm so 12.1 cm * f = 21.8 cm^2 (approx) and f = 1.8 cm.

This solution would give us a radius of curvature of 2 * 1.8 cm = 3.6 cm, since the focal distance is half the radius of curvature.

This positive focal distance implies a concave lens, and the image distance being greater than the object distance the tooth will be more than the focal distance from the lens. For this solution we can see from a ray diagram that the image will be real and inverted. The positive image distance also implies the real image.

The magnification is - image dist / obj dist = (-9.9 cm) / (2.2 cm) = - 4.5, with the negative implying the inverted image whereas we are looking for a +4.5 magnification.

There is also a solution for the -9.9 m image distance. We eventually get 2.2 cm * f - 9.9 cm * f = 2.2 cm * (-9.9) cm so -7.7 cm * f = -21.8 cm^2 (approx) and f = 2.9 cm, approx.

This solution would give us a radius of curvature of 2 * 2.0 cm = 5.8 cm, since the focal distance is half the radius of curvature.

This positive focal distance also implies a concave lens, but this time the object is closer to the lens than the focal length. For this solution we can see from a ray diagram that the image will be virtual and upright. The negative image distance also implies the virtual image.

The magnification is - image dist / obj dist = -(-9.9 cm) / (2.2 cm) = + 4.5 as required; note that the positive image distance implies an upright image. **

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18:09:04

**** query univ phy problem 33.38 (34.28 10th edition) 3 mm plate, n = 1.5, in 3 cm separation between 450 nm source and screen. How many wavelengths are there between the source and the screen?

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18:09:08

** The separation consists of 1.55 cm = 1.55 * 10^7 nm of air, index of refraction very close to 1, and 2.5 mm = 2.5 * 10^-6 nm of glass, index of refraction 1.4.

The wavelength in the glass is 540 nm / 1.4 = 385 nm, approx..

So there are 1.55 * 10^7 nm / (540 nm/wavelength) = 2.27 * 10^4 wavelengths in the air and 2.5 * 10^-6 nm / (385 nm/wavelength) = 6.5 * 10^3 wavelengths in the glass. **

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K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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18:09:54

Principles of Physics and General College Physics 23.28 A light beam exits the water surface at 66 degrees to vertical. At what angle was it incident from under the water?

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Principles of Physics and General College Physics 23.46 What is the power of a 20.5 cm lens? What is the focal length of a -6.25 diopter lens? Are these lenses converging or diverging?

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Principles of Physics and General College Physics 23.28 A light beam exits the water surface at 66 degrees to vertical. At what angle was it incident from under the water?

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Principles of Physics and General College Physics 23.46 What is the power of a 20.5 cm lens? What is the focal length of a -6.25 diopter lens? Are these lenses converging or diverging?

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The power of the 20.5 cm lens is 1 / (.205 meters) = 4.87 m^-1 = 4.87 diopters.

A positive focal length implies a converging lens, so this lens is converging.

A lens with power -6.25 diopters has focal length 1 / (-6.25 m^-1) = -.16 m = -16 cm.

The negative focal length implies a diverging lens

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18:10:52

The power of the 20.5 cm lens is 1 / (.205 meters) = 4.87 m^-1 = 4.87 diopters.

A positive focal length implies a converging lens, so this lens is converging.

A lens with power -6.25 diopters has focal length 1 / (-6.25 m^-1) = -.16 m = -16 cm.

The negative focal length implies a diverging lens.

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18:10:57

The power of the 20.5 cm lens is 1 / (.205 meters) = 4.87 m^-1 = 4.87 diopters.

A positive focal length implies a converging lens, so this lens is converging.

A lens with power -6.25 diopters has focal length 1 / (-6.25 m^-1) = -.16 m = -16 cm.

The negative focal length implies a diverging lens.

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18:11:00

query gen phy problem 23.32 incident at 45 deg to equilateral prism, n = 1.52; and what angle does light emerge?

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query gen phy problem 23.32 incident at 45 deg to equilateral prism, n = 1.52; and what angle does light emerge?

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I used figure 23-51 in the text book to help me visualize the problem. The problem states that light is incident on an equilateral crown glass prism at a 45 degree angle at which light emerges from the oppposite face. Assume that n=1.52. First, I calculated the angle of refraction at the first surface. To do this , I used Snell's Law: n1sin'thea1=n2sin'thea2

I assumed that the incident ray is in air, so n1=1.00 and the problem stated that n2=1.52.

Thus,

1.00sin45 degrees=1.52sin'theta2

'thea 2=27.7 degrees.

Now I have determined the angle of incidence of the second surface('thea3). This was the toughest portion of the problem. To do this I had to use some simple rules from geometry. I noticed that the normal dashed lines onthe figure are perpendicular to the surface(right angle). Also, the sum of all three angles in an equilateral triangle is 180degrees and that all three angles in the equilateral triangle are the same. Using this information, I was able to calculate the angle of incidence at the second surface.

I use the equation

(90-'thea2)+(90-'thea3)+angle at top of triangle=180degrees.

(90-27.7degrees)=62.3 degrees. Since this angle is around 60 degrees then the top angle would be approx. 60 degrees. ###this is the part of the problem I am a little hesitant about. Thus,

62.3 degrees+(90-'thea3)+60 degrees=180 degrees-'thea)=57.7degrees

'thea=32.3 degrees

This is reasonable because all three angles add up to be 180 degrees.62.3+60.0+57.7=180degrees

Now, I have determined that the angle of incidence at the second surface is 32.3 degrees, I can calculate the refraction at the second surface by using Snell's Law. Because the angles are parallel,

nsin'thea3=n(air)sin''thea4

1.52sin32.3=1.00sin (thea4)

'thea 4=54.3 degrees

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STUDENT SOLUTION: To solve this problem, I used figure 23-51 in the text book to help me visualize the problem. The problem states that light is incident on an equilateral crown glass prism at a 45 degree angle at which light emerges from the oppposite face. Assume that n=1.52. First, I calculated the angle of refraction at the first surface. To do this , I used Snell's Law: n1sin'thea1=n2sin'thea2

I assumed that the incident ray is in air, so n1=1.00 and the problem stated that n2=1.52.

Thus,

1.00sin45 degrees=1.52sin'theta2

'thea 2=27.7 degrees.

Now I have determined the angle of incidence of the second surface('thea3). This was the toughest portion of the problem. To do this I had to use some simple rules from geometry. I noticed that the normal dashed lines onthe figure are perpendicular to the surface(right angle). Also, the sum of all three angles in an equilateral triangle is 180degrees and that all three angles in the equilateral triangle are the same. Using this information, I was able to calculate the angle of incidence at the second surface.

I use the equation

(90-'thea2)+(90-'thea3)+angle at top of triangle=180degrees.

(90-27.7degrees)=62.3 degrees. Since this angle is around 60 degrees then the top angle would be approx. 60 degrees. ###this is the part of the problem I am a little hesitant about. Thus,

62.3 degrees+(90-'thea3)+60 degrees=180 degrees-'thea)=57.7degrees

'thea=32.3 degrees

This is reasonable because all three angles add up to be 180 degrees.62.3+60.0+57.7=180degrees

Now, I have determined that the angle of incidence at the second surface is 32.3 degrees, I can calculate the refraction at the second surface by using Snell's Law. Because the angles are parallel,

nsin'thea3=n(air)sin''thea4

1.52sin32.3=1.00sin (thea4)

'thea 4=54.3 degrees

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT:

Looks great. Here's my explanation (I did everything in my head so your results should be more accurate than mine):

Light incident at 45 deg from n=1 to n=1.52 will have refracted angle `thetaRef such that sin(`thetaRef) / sin(45 deg) = 1 / 1.52 so sin(`thetaRef) = .707 * 1 / 1.52 = .47 (approx), so that `thetaRef = sin^-1(.47) = 28 deg (approx).

We then have to consider the refraction at the second face. This might be hard to understand from the accompanying explanation, but patient construction of the triangles should either verify or refute the following results:

This light will then be incident on the opposing face of the prism at approx 32 deg (approx 28 deg from normal at the first face, the normals make an angle of 120 deg, so the triangle defined by the normal lines and the refracted ray has angles of 28 deg and 120 deg, so the remaining angle is 32 deg).

Using Snell's Law again shows that this ray will refract at about 53 deg from the second face. Constructing appropriate triangles we see that the angle between the direction of the first ray and the normal to the second face is 15 deg, and that the angle between the final ray and the first ray is therefore part of a triangle with angles 15 deg, 127 deg (the complement of the 53 deg angle) so the remaining angle of 28 deg is the angle between the incident and refracted ray. **

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18:11:47

**** query univ phy problem 34.86 (35.52 10th edition) f when s'=infinity, f' when s = infinity; spherical surface.

How did you prove that the ratio of indices of refraction na / nb is equal to the ratio f / f' of focal lengths?

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18:11:51

** The symbols s and s' are used in the diagrams in the chapter, including the one to which problem 62 refers. s is the object distance (I used o in my notes) and s' the image distance (i in my notes). My notation is more common that used in the text, but both are common notations.

Using i and o instead of s' and s we translate the problem to say that f is the object distance that makes i infinite and f ' is the image distance that makes o infinite.

For a spherical reflector we know that na / s + nb / s' = (nb - na ) / R (eqn 35-11 in your text, obtained by geometrical methods similar to those used for the cylindrical lens in Class Notes).

If s is infinite then na / s is zero and image distance is s ' = f ' so nb / i = nb / f ' = (nb - na) / R.

Similarly if s' is infinite then the object distance is s = f so na / s = na / f = (nb - na) / R.

It follows that nb / f ' = na / f, which is easily rearranged to get na / nb = f / f'.

THIS STUDENT SOLUTION WORKS TOO:

All I did was solve the formula:

na/s+nb/sprime=(nb-na)/R

once for s and another time for sprime

I took the limits of these two expressions as s and s' approached infinity.

I ended up with

f=-na*r/(na-nb)

and

fprime=-nb*r/(na-nb)

when you take the ratio f/fprime and do a little algebra, you end up with

f/fprime=na/nb **

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18:11:58

**** univ phy How did you prove that f / s + f' / s' = 1?

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18:12:03

** We can do an algebraic solution:

From nb / f ' = (nb - na) / R, obtained in a previous note, we get f ' = nb * R / (nb - na).

From na / f = (nb - na) / R we get f = na * R / (nb - na).

Rearranging na/s+nb/s'=(nb-na)/R we can get R * na / ( s ( na - nb) ) + R * nb / (s ' ( na - nb) ) = 1.

Combining this with the other two relationships we get f / s + f ' / s / = 1.

An algebraic solution is nice but a geometric solution is more informative:

To get the relationship between object distance s and image distance s' you construct a ray diagram. Place an object of height h at to the left of the spherical surface at distance s > f from the surface and sketch two principal rays. The first comes in parallel to the axis, strikes the surface at a point we'll call A and refracts through f ' on the right side of the surface. The other passes through position f on the object side of the surface, encounters the surface at a point we'll call B and is then refracted to form a ray parallel to the axis. The two rays meet at a point we'll call C, forming the tip of an image of height h'.

From the tip of the object to point A to point B we construct a right triangle with legs s and h + h'. This triangle is similar to the triangle from the f point to point B and back to the central axis, having legs f and h'. Thus (h + h') / s = h / f. This can be rearranged to the form f / s = h / (h + h').

From point A to C we have the hypotenuse of a right triangle with legs s' and h + h'. This triangle is similar to the one from B down to the axis then to the f' position on the axis, with legs h and f'. Thus (h + h') / s' = h / f'. This can be rearranged to the form f' / s' = h' / (h + h').

If we now add our expressions for f/s and f'/s' we get

f / s + f ' / s ' = h / (h + h') + h' / (h + h') = (h + h') / (h + h') = 1.

This is the result we were looking for. **

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07-02-2006

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07-02-2006

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18:12:57

General College Physics and Principles of Physics Problem 24.2: The third-order fringe of 610 nm light created by two narrow slits is observed at 18 deg. How far apart are the slits?

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18:13:13

General College Physics and Principles of Physics Problem 24.2: The third-order fringe of 610 nm light created by two narrow slits is observed at 18 deg. How far apart are the slits?

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The path difference for a 3d-order fringe is 3 wavelengths, so light from one slit travels 3 * 610 nm = 1830 nm further.

The additional distance is equal to slit spacing * sin(18 deg), so using a for slit spacing we have

a sin(18 deg) = 1830 nm.

The slit spacing is therefore

a = 1830 nm / sin(18 deg) = 5920 nm, or 5.92 * 10^-6 meters.

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18:13:18

The path difference for a 3d-order fringe is 3 wavelengths, so light from one slit travels 3 * 610 nm = 1830 nm further.

The additional distance is equal to slit spacing * sin(18 deg), so using a for slit spacing we have

a sin(18 deg) = 1830 nm.

The slit spacing is therefore

a = 1830 nm / sin(18 deg) = 5920 nm, or 5.92 * 10^-6 meters.

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18:13:24

The path difference for a 3d-order fringe is 3 wavelengths, so light from one slit travels 3 * 610 nm = 1830 nm further.

The additional distance is equal to slit spacing * sin(18 deg), so using a for slit spacing we have

a sin(18 deg) = 1830 nm.

The slit spacing is therefore

a = 1830 nm / sin(18 deg) = 5920 nm, or 5.92 * 10^-6 meters.

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18:13:29

**** query gen phy problem 24.7 460 nm light gives 2d-order max on screen; what wavelength would give a minimum?

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18:13:55

**** query gen phy problem 24.7 460 nm light gives 2d-order max on screen; what wavelength would give a minimum?

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The problem states that in a double-slit experiment, it is found that bule light of wavelength 460 nm gives a second-order maximun at a certain location on the screen. I have to determine what wavelength of visible light would have a minimum at the same location. To solve this problem I fist have to calculate the constructive interference of the second order for the blue light. I use the equation dsin'thea=m'lambda. m=2

(second order)

dsin'thea=(2)(460nm)

=920nm

Now, I can determine the destructive interference of the other light, using the equation

dsin'thea=(m+1/2)'lambda=(m+1/2)'lambda m+(0,1,2...)

Now that I have calculated dsin'thea=920nm, I used this value and plugged it in for dsin'thea in the destructive interference equation.(I assumed that the two angles are equal) because the problem asks for the wavelength at the same location.

Thus,

920nm=(m+1/2)'lambda. m=(0,1,2,...)

I calculated the first few values for 'lambda.

For m=0 920nm=(0+1/2)'lambda

=1.84*10^nm

For m=1 920nm=(1+1/2)'lambda =613nm

For m=2 920nm=(2+1/2)'lambda=368 nm

From these first few values, the only one of thes wavelengths that falls in the visible light range is 613nm. Therefore, this would be the wavelength of visible light that would give a minimum.

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STUDENT SOLUTION FOLLOWED BY INSTRUCTOR COMMENT AND SOLUTION:

The problem states that in a double-slit experiment, it is found that bule light of wavelength 460 nm gives a second-order maximun at a certain location on the screen. I have to determine what wavelength of visible light would have a minimum at the same location. To solve this problem I fist have to calculate the constructive interference of the second order for the blue light. I use the equation dsin'thea=m'lambda. m=2

(second order)

dsin'thea=(2)(460nm)

=920nm

Now, I can determine the destructive interference of the other light, using the equation

dsin'thea=(m+1/2)'lambda=(m+1/2)'lambda m+(0,1,2...)

Now that I have calculated dsin'thea=920nm, I used this value and plugged it in for dsin'thea in the destructive interference equation.(I assumed that the two angles are equal) because the problem asks for the wavelength at the same location.

Thus,

920nm=(m+1/2)'lambda. m=(0,1,2,...)

I calculated the first few values for 'lambda.

For m=0 920nm=(0+1/2)'lambda

=1.84*10^nm

For m=1 920nm=(1+1/2)'lambda =613nm

For m=2 920nm=(2+1/2)'lambda=368 nm

From these first few values, the only one of thes wavelengths that falls in the visible light range is 613nm. Therefore, this would be the wavelength of visible light that would give a minimum.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT AND SOLUTION: good. More direct reasoning, and the fact that things like sines are never needed:

** The key ideas are that the second-order max occurs when the path difference is 2 wavelengths, and a minimum occurs when path difference is a whole number of wavelengths plus a half-wavelength (i.e., for path difference equal to 1/2, 3/2, 5/2, 7/2, ... of a wavelength).

We first conclude that the path difference here is 2 * 460 nm = 920 nm.

A first-order minimum (m=0) would occur for a path difference of 1/2 wavelength. If we had a first-order minimum then 1/2 of the wavelength would be 920 nm and the wavelength would be 1860 nm. This isn't in the visible range.

A minimum would also occur If 3/2 of the wavelength is 920 nm, in which case the wavelength would be 2/3 * 920 nm = 613 nm, approx.. This is in the visible range.

A niminum could also occur if 5/2 of the wavelength is 920 nm, but this would give us a wavelength of about 370 nm, which is outside the visible range. The same would be the case for any other possible wavelength. **

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18:14:14

**** query univ phy problem 35.52 (37.46 10th edition) normal 477.0 nm light reflects from glass plate (n=1.52) and interferes constructively; next such wavelength is 540.6 nm.

How thick is the plate?

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18:14:19

** The path difference for constructive interference is an integer multiple of the wavelength. The path difference here is twice the thickness.

Wavelengths in glass are 477 nm / 1.52 and 540.6 nm / 1.52.

So we know that double the thickness is an integer multiple of 477 nm / 1.52, and also an integer multiple of 540.6 nm / 1.52.

We need to find the first integer multiple of 477 nm / 1.52 that is also an integer multiple of 540.6 nm / 1.52.

We first find an integer multiply of 477 that is also an integer multiply of 540.6.

Integer multiples of 540.6 are 540.6, 1081.2, 1621.8, etc. Dividing these numbers by 477 we obtain remainders 63.6, 127.2, etc. When the remainder is a multiple of 477 then we have an integer multiple of 477 which is also an integer multiple of 540.6.

SInce 477 / 63.6 = 8.5, we see that 2 * 477 / 63.6 = 17. So 17 wavelengths of 477 cm light is the first multiple that is equivalent to an integer number of wavelengths of 540.6 cm light.

17 * 477 = 8109.

Since 8109 / 540.6 = 15, we see that 17 wavelengths of 477 nm light span the same distance as 15 wavelengths of 540.6 nm light.

It easily follows that that 17 wavelengths of (477 nm / 1.52) light span the same distance as 15 wavelengths of (540.6 nm / 1.52) light.

This distance is 17 * 477 nm / 1.52 = 5335 nm.

This is double the thickness of the pane. The thickness is therefore

pane thickness = 5335 nm / 2 = 2667 nm.

IF INTERFERENCE WAS DESTRUCTIVE: n * 477 nm / 1.52 = (n-1) * 540.6 nm / 1.52, which we solve:

Multiplying by 1.52 / nm we get

477 n = 540.6 n - 540.6

n * (540.6 - 477 ) = 540.6

n * 63.6 = 540.6

n = 540.6 / 63.6 = 8.5.

This is a integer plus a half integer of wavelengths, which would result in destructive interference for both waves.

Multiplying 8.5 wavelengths by 477 nm / 1.52 we get round-trip distance 2667 nm, or thickness 1334 nm. **

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18:14:23

**** query univ phy prob 35.50 (10th edition 37.44): 700 nm red light thru 2 slits; monochromatic visible ligth unknown wavelength. Center of m = 3 fringe pure red. Possible wavelengths? Need to know slit spacing to answer?

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18:14:28

STUDENT SOLUTION: The pure red band at m = 3 suggests that there exists interference between the wavelength of the red light and that of the other light. Since only the red light is present at m = 3 it stands to reason that the wavelength of the other light is a half of a wavelength behind the red wavelength so that when the wavelength of the red light is at its peak, the wavelength of the other light is at its valley. In this way the amplitude of the red light is at its maximum and the amplitude of the other light is at it minimum ?this explains why only the red light is exhibited in m = 3.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT

At this point you've got it.

At the position of the m=3 maximum for the red light the red light from the further slit travels 3 wavelengths further than the light from the closer. The light of the unknown color travels 3.5 wavelengths further. So the unknown wavelength is 3/3.5 times that of the red, or 600 nm.

You don't need to know slit separation or distance (we're assuming that the distance is very large compared with the wavelength, a reasonable assumption for any distance we can actually see. **

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K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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assignment #018

K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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18:15:07

Principles of Physics and General Physics Problem 24.14: By what percent does the speed of red light exceed that of violet light in flint glass?

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The respective indices of refraction for violet and red light in flint glass appear from the given graph to be about 1.665 and 1.620.

The speed of light in a medium is inversely proportional to the index of refraction of that medium, so the ratio of the speed of red to violet light is the inverse 1.665 / 1.62 of the ratio of the indices of refraction (red to violet). This ratio is about 1.0028, or 100.28%. So the precent difference is about .28%.

It would also be possible to figure out the actual speeds of light, which would be c / n_red and c / n_violet, then divide the two speeds; however since c is the same in both cases the ratio would end up being c / n_red / ( c / n_violet) = c / n_red * n_violet / c = n_violet / n_red, and the result would be the same as that given above.

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18:15:42

The respective indices of refraction for violet and red light in flint glass appear from the given graph to be about 1.665 and 1.620.

The speed of light in a medium is inversely proportional to the index of refraction of that medium, so the ratio of the speed of red to violet light is the inverse 1.665 / 1.62 of the ratio of the indices of refraction (red to violet). This ratio is about 1.0028, or 100.28%. So the precent difference is about .28%.

It would also be possible to figure out the actual speeds of light, which would be c / n_red and c / n_violet, then divide the two speeds; however since c is the same in both cases the ratio would end up being c / n_red / ( c / n_violet) = c / n_red * n_violet / c = n_violet / n_red, and the result would be the same as that given above.

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18:16:06

**** query gen phy problem 24.34 width of 1st-order spectrum of white light (400 nm-750nm) at 2.3 m from a 7500 line/cm grating **** gen phy what is the width of the spectrum?

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We are given that the spectrum is from 400-750 nm. We are also given that the screen is 2.3 meters away and that the grating is 7500 lines/cm. To find this I will find where 400 nm wavelength falls on the screen and also where 750 nm wavelength falls onto the screen. Everything in between them will be the spectrum. I will use the formula...

sin of theta = m * wavelength / d

since these are first order angles m will be 1.

since the grating is 7500 lines/cm, d will be 1/7500 cm or 1/750000 m.

Sin of theta(400nm) =

1 * (4.0 * 10^-7)/1/750000

sin of theta (400nm) = 0.300

theta (400nm) = 17.46 degrees

This is the angle that the 1st order 400nm ray will make.

sin of theta (750nm) = 0.563

theta (750nm) = 34.24 degrees

This is the angle that the 1st order 750 nm ray will make.

We were given that the screen is 2.3 meters away. If we draw an imaginary ray from the grating to to the screen and this ray begins at the focal point for the rays of the spectrum and is perpendicular to the screen (I will call this point A), this ray will make two triangles, one with the screen and the 400nm angle ray and one with the screen and the 750 nm angle ray. Using the trigonomic function; tangent, we can solve for the sides of the triangles which the screen makes up.

Tan of theta = opposite / adjacent

tan of 34.24 degrees = opposite / 2.3 meters

0.6806 = opposite / 2.3 meters

opposite = 1.57 meters

tan of 17.46 degrees = opposite / 2.3 meters

opposite = 0.72 meters

So from point A to where the angle(400nm) hits the screen is 0.72 meters.

And from point A to where the angle(750nm) hits the screen is 1.57 meters.

If you subtract the one segment from the other one you will get the length of the spectrum on the screen.

1.57 m - 0.72 m = 0.85 meters is the width of the spectrum on the screen.

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GOOD STUDENT SOLUTION

We are given that the spectrum is from 400-750 nm. We are also given that the screen is 2.3 meters away and that the grating is 7500 lines/cm. To find this I will find where 400 nm wavelength falls on the screen and also where 750 nm wavelength falls onto the screen. Everything in between them will be the spectrum. I will use the formula...

sin of theta = m * wavelength / d

since these are first order angles m will be 1.

since the grating is 7500 lines/cm, d will be 1/7500 cm or 1/750000 m.

Sin of theta(400nm) =

1 * (4.0 * 10^-7)/1/750000

sin of theta (400nm) = 0.300

theta (400nm) = 17.46 degrees

This is the angle that the 1st order 400nm ray will make.

sin of theta (750nm) = 0.563

theta (750nm) = 34.24 degrees

This is the angle that the 1st order 750 nm ray will make.

We were given that the screen is 2.3 meters away. If we draw an imaginary ray from the grating to to the screen and this ray begins at the focal point for the rays of the spectrum and is perpendicular to the screen (I will call this point A), this ray will make two triangles, one with the screen and the 400nm angle ray and one with the screen and the 750 nm angle ray. Using the trigonomic function; tangent, we can solve for the sides of the triangles which the screen makes up.

Tan of theta = opposite / adjacent

tan of 34.24 degrees = opposite / 2.3 meters

0.6806 = opposite / 2.3 meters

opposite = 1.57 meters

tan of 17.46 degrees = opposite / 2.3 meters

opposite = 0.72 meters

So from point A to where the angle(400nm) hits the screen is 0.72 meters.

And from point A to where the angle(750nm) hits the screen is 1.57 meters.

If you subtract the one segment from the other one you will get the length of the spectrum on the screen.

1.57 m - 0.72 m = 0.85 meters is the width of the spectrum on the screen.

CORRECTION ON LAST STEP:

spectrum width = 2.3m * tan (31.33)) - 2.3m * tan (17.45) = 0.68m

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18:16:35

**** query univ phy 36.59 phasor for 8 slits

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18:16:39

** If you look at the phasor diagram for phi = 3 pi / 4 you will see that starting at any vector the fourth following vector is in the opposite direction. So every slit will interfere destructively with the fourth following slit. This is because 4 * 3 pi / 4 is an odd multiple of pi.

The same spacing will give the same result for 5 pi / 4 and for 7 pi / 4; note how starting from any vector it takes 4 vectors to get to the antiparallel direction.

For 6 pi / 4, where the phasor diagram is a square, every slit will interfere destructively with the second following slit.

For phi = pi/4 you get an octagon.

For phi = 3 pi / 4 the first vector will be at 135 deg, the second at 270 deg (straight down), the third at 415 deg (same as 45 deg, up and to the right). These vectors will not close to form a triangle. The fourth vector will be at 45 deg + 135 deg = 180 deg; i.e., horizontal to the left. The next two will be at 315 deg (down and toward the right) then 90 deg (straight up). The last two will be at 225 deg (down and to left) and 360 deg (horiz to the right).

The resulting endpoint coordinates of the vectors, in order, will be

-0.7071067811, .7071067811

-0.7071067811, -0.2928932188

0, 0.4142135623

-1, 0.4142135623

-0.2928932188, -0.2928932188

-0.2928932188, 0.7071067811

-1, 0

0, 0

For phi = 5 pi / 4 each vector will 'rotate' relative to the last at angle 5 pi / 4, or 225 deg. To check yourself the first few endpoints will be

-0.7070747217, -0.7071290944;

-0.7070747217, 0.2928709055;

0, -0.4142040038

and the final endpoint will again be (0, 0).

For 6 pi / 4 you will get a square that repeats twice.

For 7 pi / 4 you get an octagon.

NEW PROBLEM: The longest wavelength is 700 nm and slit spacing is about 1250 nm. The path difference can't exceed the slit spacing, which is less than double the 700 nm spacine. So there are at most central max (path difference zero) and the first-order max (path difference one wavelength).

Note that there will be a second-order max for wavelengths less than about 417 nm. **

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assignment #019

K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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assignment #019

K????L??^?|???}?Physics II

07-02-2006

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18:17:29

Principles of Physics and General College Physics Problem 24.54: What is Brewster's angle for an air-glass interface (n = 1.52 for glass)?

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Principles of Physics and General College Physics Problem 24.54: What is Brewster's angle for an air-glass interface (n = 1.52 for glass)?

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Brewster's angle is the smallest angle theta_p of incidence at which light is completely polarized. This occurs when tan(theta_p) = n2 / n1, where n2 is the index of refraction on the 'other side' of the interface.

For an air-glass interface, n1 = 1 so tan( theta_p) = n2 / 1 = n2, the index of refraction of the glass.

tan(theta_p) = 1.52 so that

theta_p = arcTan(1.52). This is calculated as the inverse tangent of 1.52, using the 2d function-tan combination on a calculator.

theta_p = 56.7 degrees

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18:18:18

Brewster's angle is the smallest angle theta_p of incidence at which light is completely polarized. This occurs when tan(theta_p) = n2 / n1, where n2 is the index of refraction on the 'other side' of the interface.

For an air-glass interface, n1 = 1 so tan( theta_p) = n2 / 1 = n2, the index of refraction of the glass. We get

tan(theta_p) = 1.52 so that

theta_p = arcTan(1.52). This is calculated as the inverse tangent of 1.52, using the 2d function-tan combination on a calculator. WE obtain

theta_p = 56.7 degrees, approximately.

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18:18:25

Brewster's angle is the smallest angle theta_p of incidence at which light is completely polarized. This occurs when tan(theta_p) = n2 / n1, where n2 is the index of refraction on the 'other side' of the interface.

For an air-glass interface, n1 = 1 so tan( theta_p) = n2 / 1 = n2, the index of refraction of the glass. We get

tan(theta_p) = 1.52 so that

theta_p = arcTan(1.52). This is calculated as the inverse tangent of 1.52, using the 2d function-tan combination on a calculator. WE obtain

theta_p = 56.7 degrees, approximately.

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18:18:28

gen phy problem 24.43 foil separates one end of two stacked glass plates; 28 lines observed for normal 650 nm light

gen phy what is the thickness of the foil?

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gen phy problem 24.43 foil separates one end of two stacked glass plates; 28 lines observed for normal 650 nm light

gen phy what is the thickness of the foil?

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I refer to fig. 24-31 in the text book as the problem stated. To determine the thickness of the foil, I considered the foil to be an air gap. I am not sure that this is correct. Therefore, I used the equation 2t=m'lambda, m=(0,1,2,...). THis is where the dark bands occur .

lambda is given in the problem as 670nm and m=27, because between 28 dark lines, there are 27 intervals.

Solve for t(thickness):

t=1/2(2)(670nm)

=9.05 *10^3nm=9.05 um

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STUDENT SOLUTION: To solve this problem, I refer to fig. 24-31 in the text book as the problem stated. To determine the thickness of the foil, I considered the foil to be an air gap. I am not sure that this is correct. Therefore, I used the equation 2t=m'lambda, m=(0,1,2,...). THis is where the dark bands occur .

lambda is given in the problem as 670nm and m=27, because between 28 dark lines, there are 27 intervals.

Solve for t(thickness):

t=1/2(2)(670nm)

=9.05 *10^3nm=9.05 um

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE WITH DIRECT-REASONING SOLUTION:** Your solution looks good. Direct reasoning:

** each half-wavelength of separation causes a dark band so there are 27 such intervals, therefore 27 half-wavelengths and the thickness is 27 * 1/2 * 670 nm = 9000 nm (approx) **

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18:19:02

STUDENT SOLUTION: To solve this problem, I refer to fig. 24-31 in the text book as the problem stated. To determine the thickness of the foil, I considered the foil to be an air gap. I am not sure that this is correct. Therefore, I used the equation 2t=m'lambda, m=(0,1,2,...). THis is where the dark bands occur .

lambda is given in the problem as 670nm and m=27, because between 28 dark lines, there are 27 intervals.

Solve for t(thickness):

t=1/2(2)(670nm)

=9.05 *10^3nm=9.05 um

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE WITH DIRECT-REASONING SOLUTION:** Your solution looks good. Direct reasoning:

** each half-wavelength of separation causes a dark band so there are 27 such intervals, therefore 27 half-wavelengths and the thickness is 27 * 1/2 * 670 nm = 9000 nm (approx) **

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18:19:06

**** gen phy how many wavelengths comprise the thickness of the foil?

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18:19:19

**** gen phy how many wavelengths comprise the thickness of the foil?

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To calculate the number of wavelengths that comprise the thickness of the foil, I use the same equation as above 2t=m'lambda and solve for m.

2(9.05 um)=m(6.70 *10^-7m)

Convert all units to meters.

m=27 wavelengths.

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18:19:23

GOOD STUDENT SOLUTION: To calculate the number of wavelengths that comprise the thickness of the foil, I use the same equation as above 2t=m'lambda and solve for m.

2(9.05 um)=m(6.70 *10^-7m)

Convert all units to meters.

m=27 wavelengths.

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