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Question:

problem 8.4.3 (3d edition 8.3.3) (previously 8.2.6) moment of 2 meter rod with density `rho(x) = 2 + 6x g/m

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Your solution:

We are trying to find the moment of a 2 meter rod with density rho(X)=2 + 6x g/m

We begin by taking a sample slice at point xi that is delta xi thick

Moment = mass*distance

So the moment of the slice would be (2+6x)(xi)

We do a reimann sum approaching 0 of (2+6x)(xi)

To set up integral from 0 to 2 of (2+6x)dx

We integrate each separately and get 2x +6x^2.

We now need to integrate again to find moment. The antiderivative is 2x^3 + x^2 from 0 to 2

We then get 2(2)^3 + 2^ 2 -)2(0)^3 + (0^2))

So we have 20 gram/meter as our final answer.

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You would get gram / meter if you divided a quantity in grams by a quantity in meters.

The units of this result are grams * meters.

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Given Solution:

The mass of an increment of length `dx, with sample point x_i, is (2 + 6 x_i ) `dx.

The moment is mass * distance from axis of rotation. Assuming axis of rotation x = 0:

The moment of the mass in the increment is (2 + 6 x_i) * x_i.

Setting up a Riemann sum and allowing the increment to approach zero, we obtain the integral

• moment = int(x(2+6x), x, 0, 2).

Thus the integrand is 2x + 6 x^2. An antiderivative is F(x) = x^2 + 2 x^3, so the definite integral is

• moment = int(x(2+6x), x, 0, 2) = F(2) - F(0) = 20.

The moment of the typical increment has units of mass/unit length * length * distance from axis, or (g / m) * m * m = g * m.

The units of the integral are therefore g * m, and the moment of this object is 20 g * m (i.e., 20 gram * meters).

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (finding center of mass):

To get the center of mass relative to x = 0 (this was not requested here but you should know how to do this), divide the moment about x = 0 by the mass of the object:

The mass of the object is easily found to be int((2+6x), x, 0, 2) (see above for the mass increment, which leads to the Riemann sum then to the integral).

The center of mass is therefore

• center of mass = moment / mass = int(x(2+6x), x, 0, 2) / int((2+6x), x, 0, 2).

The integrand for the denominator is 2 + 6 x, antiderivative G(x) = 2x + 3 x^2 and definite integral G(2) - G(0) = 16 - 0 = 16, meaning that the object has mass 16 grams (more specifcally the units of the denominator will be units of mass / unit length * length = mass, or in this case g / m * m = g).

So the center of mass is at x = 20 g * m /(16 g) = 5/4 (g * m) / g = 5/4 g. **

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Question: problem 8.4.14 (4th edition 8.4.12 3d edition 8.3.12) mass between graph of f(x) and g(x), f > g, density `rho(x)

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Your solution:

We want to find the mass between the graph of f(x) and g(x) where f is greater than g and the given density if rho(x)

We find a cross section at point xi that is delta xi thick.

The area would be [f(x) - g(x)] *delta xi

We know mass is area * density so

Mass = [f(x) - g(x)] *delta xi * rho(x)

So the reimann sum would be limit as x approaches 0 of [f(x) - g(x)] *delta xi * rho(x)

So integral would run from a to b of [f(x) - g(x)]dx rho(x)

So rho(x) times integral from a to b of [f(x) - g(x)]dx

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Which is rho(x)[1/2f(x) ^2 - ½ g(x)^2] evaluated from a to b

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You've gone a step too far, and there's a flaw in your reasoning.

1/2 * (f(x))^2 is not an antiderivative of f(x).

You can see this by taking the derivative of 1/2 (f(x))^2.

(f(x))^2 ' = 2 f ' (x) * f(x), not 2 * f(x).

As you see, the chain rule asserts itself in a way that contradicts your assumption.

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So 1/2f(b)^2 - ½ g(b)^2 - 1/2f(a)^2 + ½ g(a)^2

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Given Solution:

First you find the mass of a typical increment of width `dx, with sample point x within the interval.

The mass is just area * density.

The area of the region is height * width, or approximately (f(x) - g(x) ) * `dx. The density is `rho(x) so you get the approximation

• `dm = area * density

• = (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx * `rho(x)

• = `rho(x) (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx.

The Riemann sum is the sum of all such mass increments for a partition of the interval, and at the interval width `dx approaches 0 this sum approaches the integral

int( rho(x) * (f(x) - g(x)), x, a, b).

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Self-critique (if necessary):

### do we evaluate the integral and plug in a and b or just leave it as integral from a to b of rho(x)[f(x) - g(x) dx]????

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Since you don't know what f(x) and g(x) are, you have to leave this in the form of the integral. See also my preceding note, which has probably already convinced you that it's hopeless to try to do much of anything with an integral of an unknown function.

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Question:

What is the mass of an increment at x coordinate x with width `dx?

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Your solution:

Mass = area * density

Density is rho(x)

At x coordinate x and width dx the area would be

[f(x) - g(x)]*dx

So mass = [f(x) - g(x)]*dx* rho(x)

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Given Solution:

** You want to think of this as a simple product, just area * density. The area of the region is height * width, or approximately (f(x) - g(x) ) * `dx. The density is `rho(x) so you get the approximation

mass = area * density = (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx * `rho(x) = `rho(x) (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx.

Note that `dx stands for delta-x, a finite but small interval and that it's f - g, not f + g. **

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Question: problem 8.5.13 (4th edition 8.5. 12) (3d edition 8.4.12) 8.3.6 cylinder 20 ft high rad 6 ft full of water

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Your solution:

So we have a cylinder 20 ft high with radius of 6 ft that is full of water and we want to raise to 30 ft.

We first take a strip delta yi thick at point yi.

The area of the circular part is pi r^2 or 36 pi

Density is rhog so rhog A is 62.4*36pi which is 7057.27

We know that work is force*distance

So rhog(a) * distance

Rhog(a) * (30-yi)

So reimann sum would be from values of 0 to 20 of rhog*A * (30-yi)

Integral would be from 0 to 20 of rhog * A (30-y)

We pull the rhog * a in front of the integral and we know that value is 7057.27 so we have

7057.27 * integral from 0 to 20 of (30-y)

Which woud be 7057.27(30 - ½ y^2) as the antiderivative

So plugging in and evaluating we get 7057.27(30*20 - .5*20^2) which is 2,822,908 ft per pound

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Given Solution:

STUDENT SOLUTION:

delta W = delta F*(30-y)

delta W = (62.4)(volume)*(30-y)

delta W = 62.4*36*pi*delta y*(30-y)

delta W = (211718.211 - 7057.2737y)delta y

integral [0,20] (211718.211 - 7057.2737y)dy = 211718.211y - 3528.63685y^2

from 0 to 20 = 2,822,909,.48 ft-lb

INSTRUCTOR COMMENTARY

** For the ith interval, using F_i and dist_i for the force required to lift the water and the distance is must be lifted, `rho for the density and A for the cross-sectional area 36 `pi, the work is

• Fi * dist_i = `rho g A 'dyi * (30 - y_i) = `rho g A (30 - yi) 'dy_i.

We thus have a Riemann sum of terms `rho g A (30 - y_i) 'dy_i.

This sum approaches the integral

• int(`rho g A (30 - y) dy between y = 0 and y = 20).

The limits are y = 0 and y = 20 because that's where the fluid represented by the terms `rho g A (30 - y_i) 'dyi is (note that the tank for Problem 6 is full of water, not half full). The 30-y_i is because it's getting pumped to height 30 ft.

Your antiderivative is `rho g A ( 30 y - y^2 / 2).

At this point you can plug in your values for `rho, g and A, then evaluate 30 y - y^2 / 2 at the limits to get your answer.

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Question: **** query 8.5.31 (4th edition 8.5.30 3d edition problem 8.4.24)

What is the kinetic energy of a record mass of mass 50 g rad 10 cm rotating at 33 1/3 revolutions per minut?

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Your solution:

We are finding kinetic energy of a record with mass 50 grams, radius 10 cm, and rotating at 33.33 revolutions per minute. We also are told speed = 1/2mv^2

We begin by taking a cross section at xi which is delta xi thick

We know the total area of the record is pi r^ 2 or 100 pi

We know the total area density is total mass/total area or 50/100 pi which is .16

The area of our slice is circumference * width which is 2pi r * delta xi

The mass of our slice is area*density which is .16*2pi ri which is 1.0 ri

We know the speed of our slice is distance/time which is 2pi r^2 / 33.33 rev per 60 seconds or

2pi*r/.55

So the kinetic energy of slice would be 1/2m*v^2 or .5 m v^2 which is

.5*1.0 ri (3.4 ri)^2 ###This is where the 3.4 comes in and I’m not sure how 3.4 is determined?????

I will continue to solve using the 3.4????

So the reiman sum is ½ (1.0 ri)(3.4r)^2

So the integral would run from 0 to 10 and would be .5(1.0r)(3.4r)^2

.5 * integral from 0 to 10 or 1r * 11.56 r^2

5.78 * integral from 0 to 10 of r^3

Ό*5.78 r^4

1.445 r^4 evaluate at 10 and 0 and solve

1.445(10^4) -0 = 14450 gram per cm squared

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Given Solution:

** We partition the interval 0 <= r <= 10 cm between the center of the record and its rim.

• An small interval of a partition will correspond to an interval of r.

• The part of the record for which the radius is within the partition consists of a thin ring of the disk.

For example if 3.4 cm < r < 3.5 cm is an interval of the partition, then the corresponding region of the disk is the ring which is also described by 3.4 cm < r < 3.5 cm. This ring lies between the circle r = 3.4 cm and r = 3.5 cm; its 'width' is .1 cm and its 'average circumference' is somewhere between 2 pi * 3.4 cm (the circumference of the 'inner' circle) and 2 pi * 3.5 cm (the circumference of the 'outer' circle).

The 'area density' of the record (mass / unit area) is

• area density = total mass / total area = 50 grams / total area = 50 grams / (pi * (10 cm)^2) = .16 grams / cm^2, approx.

For a partition with interval width `dr, considering a typical interval with sample point r_i*:

• The corresponding 'ring' would have radius r_i* and width `dr.

• Its area would be approximately circumference * width = 2 pi r_i* `dr.

• The mass of the typical slice would be area * density = .16 * 2 pi r_i* `dr = 1.0 r_i* `dr, approx..

• The speed of a point on the slice would be dist / time = 2 pi r_i* (33 1/3 / (60 sec)) = 3.4 r_i*, with speed in cm/s when radius is in cm.

• The KE of the slice is therefore .5 m v^2 = .5 ( 1.0 r_i* `dr) * (3.4 r_i*)^2, with KE in gram cm^2 / s^2.

The Riemann sum of all KE contributions would, as `dr -> 0, approach the an integral which represents the total KE:

• total KE = integral of .5 ( 1.0 r) (3.4 r)^2 with respect to r, from r = 0 to r = 10.

The simplified form of this expression is approximately 6 r^3; integrating from r = 0 to r = 10 we get approximately 15,000 gram cm^2 / s^2.

The process shown here is correct, but the calculations represented here are not numerically accurate to any degree of precision; you should compare with your results with the results obtained here and if necessary rework these calculations using more accurate values.

The value of the integral, using .16 * 2 pi r in place of the approximation 1.0 r, is 14 526.72443 g cm^2, to 10 significant figures. This is a ridiculously precise value, considering that the radius of a pressed disk is consistent to only within perhaps +-.001 cm, with even more significant uncertainty in the mass. A more reasonable figure would be 14 500 g cm^2 +- 100 g cm^2. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

###I felt ok about everything except for where the 3.4 came from in

• The speed of a point on the slice would be dist / time = 2 pi r_i* (33 1/3 / (60 sec)) = 3.4 r_i*, with speed in cm/s when radius is in cm.

Is 3.4 just an estimated point on the slice???? If so how do you choose the value 3.4????

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2 pi * (33 1/3) / 60 is about 3.4.

This isn't hard to believe since 2 pi is a little greater than 6, so that 2 pi / 60 will be a little greater than 1/10, and 1/10 of 33 1/3 is about 3.3.

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Question: problem 8.5.17 (4th edition 8.5.16)

Give your solution to the problem.

For this problem, the given solution does not address this specific problem, but solves a similar problem, the solution to which parallels the given problem.

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Your solution:

A cone with height 12 ft and radius 4 ft pointing downward. Filled with water to depth of 9 ft. Find work required to pump all the water out over the top

To begin we take a slice delta xi thick at point xi. We want to raise to height y which would be 15-y

Area = pi r^2 which is 16pi or 50.27

Hi=reimann sum of (rhog*A (15-y)) from 0 to 15

So integral is 0 to 15 rhog *a (15-y)

Bring the Rhog * a out front with is 62.4*16pi or 3136.6 * integral from 0 to 15 of (15-y)

Antiderivative is 15y - 1/2y^2 so evaluating we get 3136.6*(15*15 - .5(15^2))

which is 352867.5

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The cross-sectional area A for a cone is not constant.

At height y above the point at the bottom of the cone, its radius will be 4/12 * y = y / 3, so its area will be pi y^2 / 9. The slice will therefore have volume pi y^2 / 9 * `dy, its weight will be rho g * pi y^2 / 9 * `dy, and the work to raise it to 15 feet will be

rho g * pi y^2 / 9 * `dy * (15 - y).

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Given Solution:

The given solution solves the following problem:

A conical glass is 10 cm high, and at the top its width is 10 cm.

How much work is required to empty the glass by raising the liquid through a straw to a height of 15 cm from the base?

Solution:

** The diameter of the top of the cone is equal to the vertical distance y from the apex to the top.

At height y the diameter of the cone is easily seen to be equal to y, so the cross-section at height y has radius .5 y and therefore area A = `pi ( .5 y ) ^ 2 = `pi / 4 * y^2.

A slice of thickness `dy at height y has approximate volume A * `dy = `pi/4 * y^2 * `dy.

This area is in cm^3 so its mass is equal to the volume and the weight in dynes is 980 * mass = 245 `pi y^2 `dy.

This weight is raised from height y to height 15, a distance of 15 - y. So the work to raise the slice is force * distance = 245 `pi y^2 `dy * ( 15 - y ) = 245 ( 15 - y ) `pi y^2 `dy = 245 `pi ( 15 y^2 - y^3 ) `pi `dy

Slices go from y = 0 to y = 10 cm so the integral is 245 `pi ( 15 y^2 - y^3 ) `pi dy, evaluated from y = 0 to y = 10.

We get 245 `pi * (5 y^3 - y^4 / 4) evaluated between 0 and 10.

The result is 245 `pi * 2500 ergs, close to 2 million ergs.

Most calculations were mentally so check the precise numbers. The process is correct. **

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STUDENT COMMENT:

I am stuck at a point close to the end on this problem. The integral I have

is from 0 to 10 'rho g A (15-y) dy

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

** Good, but A is a function of y because the glass is tapering. A = `pi r^2. What is the radius r at height y? Just draw a picture--two straight lines for the outline of the glass--and use proportionalities. Draw some similar triangles if necessary. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

###I feel like my answer is too large a number. I’m thinking I messed up on this step

So integral is 0 to 15 rhog *a (15-y)

When I used area I used area of the 16pi I think I may should have used the area of the slice but I can’t figure out what that would be???? Please let me know where I messed up???

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query 9

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Question:

problem 8.4.3 (3d edition 8.3.3) (previously 8.2.6) moment of 2 meter rod with density `rho(x) = 2 + 6x g/m

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Your solution:

We are trying to find the moment of a 2 meter rod with density rho(X)=2 + 6x g/m

We begin by taking a sample slice at point xi that is delta xi thick

Moment = mass*distance

So the moment of the slice would be (2+6x)(xi)

We do a reimann sum approaching 0 of (2+6x)(xi)

To set up integral from 0 to 2 of (2+6x)dx

We integrate each separately and get 2x +6x^2.

We now need to integrate again to find moment. The antiderivative is 2x^3 + x^2 from 0 to 2

We then get 2(2)^3 + 2^ 2 -)2(0)^3 + (0^2))

So we have 20 gram/meter as our final answer.

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You would get gram / meter if you divided a quantity in grams by a quantity in meters.

The units of this result are grams * meters.

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Given Solution:

The mass of an increment of length `dx, with sample point x_i, is (2 + 6 x_i ) `dx.

The moment is mass * distance from axis of rotation. Assuming axis of rotation x = 0:

The moment of the mass in the increment is (2 + 6 x_i) * x_i.

Setting up a Riemann sum and allowing the increment to approach zero, we obtain the integral

• moment = int(x(2+6x), x, 0, 2).

Thus the integrand is 2x + 6 x^2. An antiderivative is F(x) = x^2 + 2 x^3, so the definite integral is

• moment = int(x(2+6x), x, 0, 2) = F(2) - F(0) = 20.

The moment of the typical increment has units of mass/unit length * length * distance from axis, or (g / m) * m * m = g * m.

The units of the integral are therefore g * m, and the moment of this object is 20 g * m (i.e., 20 gram * meters).

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (finding center of mass):

To get the center of mass relative to x = 0 (this was not requested here but you should know how to do this), divide the moment about x = 0 by the mass of the object:

The mass of the object is easily found to be int((2+6x), x, 0, 2) (see above for the mass increment, which leads to the Riemann sum then to the integral).

The center of mass is therefore

• center of mass = moment / mass = int(x(2+6x), x, 0, 2) / int((2+6x), x, 0, 2).

The integrand for the denominator is 2 + 6 x, antiderivative G(x) = 2x + 3 x^2 and definite integral G(2) - G(0) = 16 - 0 = 16, meaning that the object has mass 16 grams (more specifcally the units of the denominator will be units of mass / unit length * length = mass, or in this case g / m * m = g).

So the center of mass is at x = 20 g * m /(16 g) = 5/4 (g * m) / g = 5/4 g. **

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Question: problem 8.4.14 (4th edition 8.4.12 3d edition 8.3.12) mass between graph of f(x) and g(x), f > g, density `rho(x)

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Your solution:

We want to find the mass between the graph of f(x) and g(x) where f is greater than g and the given density if rho(x)

We find a cross section at point xi that is delta xi thick.

The area would be [f(x) - g(x)] *delta xi

We know mass is area * density so

Mass = [f(x) - g(x)] *delta xi * rho(x)

So the reimann sum would be limit as x approaches 0 of [f(x) - g(x)] *delta xi * rho(x)

So integral would run from a to b of [f(x) - g(x)]dx rho(x)

So rho(x) times integral from a to b of [f(x) - g(x)]dx

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Which is rho(x)[1/2f(x) ^2 - ½ g(x)^2] evaluated from a to b

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You've gone a step too far, and there's a flaw in your reasoning.

1/2 * (f(x))^2 is not an antiderivative of f(x).

You can see this by taking the derivative of 1/2 (f(x))^2.

(f(x))^2 ' = 2 f ' (x) * f(x), not 2 * f(x).

As you see, the chain rule asserts itself in a way that contradicts your assumption.

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So 1/2f(b)^2 - ½ g(b)^2 - 1/2f(a)^2 + ½ g(a)^2

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Given Solution:

First you find the mass of a typical increment of width `dx, with sample point x within the interval.

The mass is just area * density.

The area of the region is height * width, or approximately (f(x) - g(x) ) * `dx. The density is `rho(x) so you get the approximation

• `dm = area * density

• = (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx * `rho(x)

• = `rho(x) (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx.

The Riemann sum is the sum of all such mass increments for a partition of the interval, and at the interval width `dx approaches 0 this sum approaches the integral

int( rho(x) * (f(x) - g(x)), x, a, b).

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Self-critique (if necessary):

### do we evaluate the integral and plug in a and b or just leave it as integral from a to b of rho(x)[f(x) - g(x) dx]????

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Since you don't know what f(x) and g(x) are, you have to leave this in the form of the integral. See also my preceding note, which has probably already convinced you that it's hopeless to try to do much of anything with an integral of an unknown function.

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Question:

What is the mass of an increment at x coordinate x with width `dx?

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Your solution:

Mass = area * density

Density is rho(x)

At x coordinate x and width dx the area would be

[f(x) - g(x)]*dx

So mass = [f(x) - g(x)]*dx* rho(x)

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Given Solution:

** You want to think of this as a simple product, just area * density. The area of the region is height * width, or approximately (f(x) - g(x) ) * `dx. The density is `rho(x) so you get the approximation

mass = area * density = (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx * `rho(x) = `rho(x) (f(x) - g(x) ) * 'dx.

Note that `dx stands for delta-x, a finite but small interval and that it's f - g, not f + g. **

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Question: problem 8.5.13 (4th edition 8.5. 12) (3d edition 8.4.12) 8.3.6 cylinder 20 ft high rad 6 ft full of water

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Your solution:

So we have a cylinder 20 ft high with radius of 6 ft that is full of water and we want to raise to 30 ft.

We first take a strip delta yi thick at point yi.

The area of the circular part is pi r^2 or 36 pi

Density is rhog so rhog A is 62.4*36pi which is 7057.27

We know that work is force*distance

So rhog(a) * distance

Rhog(a) * (30-yi)

So reimann sum would be from values of 0 to 20 of rhog*A * (30-yi)

Integral would be from 0 to 20 of rhog * A (30-y)

We pull the rhog * a in front of the integral and we know that value is 7057.27 so we have

7057.27 * integral from 0 to 20 of (30-y)

Which woud be 7057.27(30 - ½ y^2) as the antiderivative

So plugging in and evaluating we get 7057.27(30*20 - .5*20^2) which is 2,822,908 ft per pound

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Given Solution:

STUDENT SOLUTION:

delta W = delta F*(30-y)

delta W = (62.4)(volume)*(30-y)

delta W = 62.4*36*pi*delta y*(30-y)

delta W = (211718.211 - 7057.2737y)delta y

integral [0,20] (211718.211 - 7057.2737y)dy = 211718.211y - 3528.63685y^2

from 0 to 20 = 2,822,909,.48 ft-lb

INSTRUCTOR COMMENTARY

** For the ith interval, using F_i and dist_i for the force required to lift the water and the distance is must be lifted, `rho for the density and A for the cross-sectional area 36 `pi, the work is

• Fi * dist_i = `rho g A 'dyi * (30 - y_i) = `rho g A (30 - yi) 'dy_i.

We thus have a Riemann sum of terms `rho g A (30 - y_i) 'dy_i.

This sum approaches the integral

• int(`rho g A (30 - y) dy between y = 0 and y = 20).

The limits are y = 0 and y = 20 because that's where the fluid represented by the terms `rho g A (30 - y_i) 'dyi is (note that the tank for Problem 6 is full of water, not half full). The 30-y_i is because it's getting pumped to height 30 ft.

Your antiderivative is `rho g A ( 30 y - y^2 / 2).

At this point you can plug in your values for `rho, g and A, then evaluate 30 y - y^2 / 2 at the limits to get your answer.

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Question: **** query 8.5.31 (4th edition 8.5.30 3d edition problem 8.4.24)

What is the kinetic energy of a record mass of mass 50 g rad 10 cm rotating at 33 1/3 revolutions per minut?

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Your solution:

We are finding kinetic energy of a record with mass 50 grams, radius 10 cm, and rotating at 33.33 revolutions per minute. We also are told speed = 1/2mv^2

We begin by taking a cross section at xi which is delta xi thick

We know the total area of the record is pi r^ 2 or 100 pi

We know the total area density is total mass/total area or 50/100 pi which is .16

The area of our slice is circumference * width which is 2pi r * delta xi

The mass of our slice is area*density which is .16*2pi ri which is 1.0 ri

We know the speed of our slice is distance/time which is 2pi r^2 / 33.33 rev per 60 seconds or

2pi*r/.55

So the kinetic energy of slice would be 1/2m*v^2 or .5 m v^2 which is

.5*1.0 ri (3.4 ri)^2 ###This is where the 3.4 comes in and I’m not sure how 3.4 is determined?????

I will continue to solve using the 3.4????

So the reiman sum is ½ (1.0 ri)(3.4r)^2

So the integral would run from 0 to 10 and would be .5(1.0r)(3.4r)^2

.5 * integral from 0 to 10 or 1r * 11.56 r^2

5.78 * integral from 0 to 10 of r^3

Ό*5.78 r^4

1.445 r^4 evaluate at 10 and 0 and solve

1.445(10^4) -0 = 14450 gram per cm squared

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Given Solution:

** We partition the interval 0 <= r <= 10 cm between the center of the record and its rim.

• An small interval of a partition will correspond to an interval of r.

• The part of the record for which the radius is within the partition consists of a thin ring of the disk.

For example if 3.4 cm < r < 3.5 cm is an interval of the partition, then the corresponding region of the disk is the ring which is also described by 3.4 cm < r < 3.5 cm. This ring lies between the circle r = 3.4 cm and r = 3.5 cm; its 'width' is .1 cm and its 'average circumference' is somewhere between 2 pi * 3.4 cm (the circumference of the 'inner' circle) and 2 pi * 3.5 cm (the circumference of the 'outer' circle).

The 'area density' of the record (mass / unit area) is

• area density = total mass / total area = 50 grams / total area = 50 grams / (pi * (10 cm)^2) = .16 grams / cm^2, approx.

For a partition with interval width `dr, considering a typical interval with sample point r_i*:

• The corresponding 'ring' would have radius r_i* and width `dr.

• Its area would be approximately circumference * width = 2 pi r_i* `dr.

• The mass of the typical slice would be area * density = .16 * 2 pi r_i* `dr = 1.0 r_i* `dr, approx..

• The speed of a point on the slice would be dist / time = 2 pi r_i* (33 1/3 / (60 sec)) = 3.4 r_i*, with speed in cm/s when radius is in cm.

• The KE of the slice is therefore .5 m v^2 = .5 ( 1.0 r_i* `dr) * (3.4 r_i*)^2, with KE in gram cm^2 / s^2.

The Riemann sum of all KE contributions would, as `dr -> 0, approach the an integral which represents the total KE:

• total KE = integral of .5 ( 1.0 r) (3.4 r)^2 with respect to r, from r = 0 to r = 10.

The simplified form of this expression is approximately 6 r^3; integrating from r = 0 to r = 10 we get approximately 15,000 gram cm^2 / s^2.

The process shown here is correct, but the calculations represented here are not numerically accurate to any degree of precision; you should compare with your results with the results obtained here and if necessary rework these calculations using more accurate values.

The value of the integral, using .16 * 2 pi r in place of the approximation 1.0 r, is 14 526.72443 g cm^2, to 10 significant figures. This is a ridiculously precise value, considering that the radius of a pressed disk is consistent to only within perhaps +-.001 cm, with even more significant uncertainty in the mass. A more reasonable figure would be 14 500 g cm^2 +- 100 g cm^2. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

###I felt ok about everything except for where the 3.4 came from in

• The speed of a point on the slice would be dist / time = 2 pi r_i* (33 1/3 / (60 sec)) = 3.4 r_i*, with speed in cm/s when radius is in cm.

Is 3.4 just an estimated point on the slice???? If so how do you choose the value 3.4????

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2 pi * (33 1/3) / 60 is about 3.4.

This isn't hard to believe since 2 pi is a little greater than 6, so that 2 pi / 60 will be a little greater than 1/10, and 1/10 of 33 1/3 is about 3.3.

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Question: problem 8.5.17 (4th edition 8.5.16)

Give your solution to the problem.

For this problem, the given solution does not address this specific problem, but solves a similar problem, the solution to which parallels the given problem.

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Your solution:

A cone with height 12 ft and radius 4 ft pointing downward. Filled with water to depth of 9 ft. Find work required to pump all the water out over the top

To begin we take a slice delta xi thick at point xi. We want to raise to height y which would be 15-y

Area = pi r^2 which is 16pi or 50.27

Hi=reimann sum of (rhog*A (15-y)) from 0 to 15

So integral is 0 to 15 rhog *a (15-y)

Bring the Rhog * a out front with is 62.4*16pi or 3136.6 * integral from 0 to 15 of (15-y)

Antiderivative is 15y - 1/2y^2 so evaluating we get 3136.6*(15*15 - .5(15^2))

which is 352867.5

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The cross-sectional area A for a cone is not constant.

At height y above the point at the bottom of the cone, its radius will be 4/12 * y = y / 3, so its area will be pi y^2 / 9. The slice will therefore have volume pi y^2 / 9 * `dy, its weight will be rho g * pi y^2 / 9 * `dy, and the work to raise it to 15 feet will be

rho g * pi y^2 / 9 * `dy * (15 - y).

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Given Solution:

The given solution solves the following problem:

A conical glass is 10 cm high, and at the top its width is 10 cm.

How much work is required to empty the glass by raising the liquid through a straw to a height of 15 cm from the base?

Solution:

** The diameter of the top of the cone is equal to the vertical distance y from the apex to the top.

At height y the diameter of the cone is easily seen to be equal to y, so the cross-section at height y has radius .5 y and therefore area A = `pi ( .5 y ) ^ 2 = `pi / 4 * y^2.

A slice of thickness `dy at height y has approximate volume A * `dy = `pi/4 * y^2 * `dy.

This area is in cm^3 so its mass is equal to the volume and the weight in dynes is 980 * mass = 245 `pi y^2 `dy.

This weight is raised from height y to height 15, a distance of 15 - y. So the work to raise the slice is force * distance = 245 `pi y^2 `dy * ( 15 - y ) = 245 ( 15 - y ) `pi y^2 `dy = 245 `pi ( 15 y^2 - y^3 ) `pi `dy

Slices go from y = 0 to y = 10 cm so the integral is 245 `pi ( 15 y^2 - y^3 ) `pi dy, evaluated from y = 0 to y = 10.

We get 245 `pi * (5 y^3 - y^4 / 4) evaluated between 0 and 10.

The result is 245 `pi * 2500 ergs, close to 2 million ergs.

Most calculations were mentally so check the precise numbers. The process is correct. **

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STUDENT COMMENT:

I am stuck at a point close to the end on this problem. The integral I have

is from 0 to 10 'rho g A (15-y) dy

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

** Good, but A is a function of y because the glass is tapering. A = `pi r^2. What is the radius r at height y? Just draw a picture--two straight lines for the outline of the glass--and use proportionalities. Draw some similar triangles if necessary. **

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Self-critique (if necessary):

###I feel like my answer is too large a number. I’m thinking I messed up on this step

So integral is 0 to 15 rhog *a (15-y)

When I used area I used area of the 16pi I think I may should have used the area of the slice but I can’t figure out what that would be???? Please let me know where I messed up???

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You're doing quite well.

Check my notes, which I believe you will understand. If you have additional questions they are welcome.

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