Query 9

course PHY 201

June 24 around 11:00 pm

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Question: See if you can answer the following question, which came from a student:

Please define the difference between Fnet and Force.

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Your solution:

The Fnet is different forces added together and the Force is just one force.

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Given Solution:

Net force is the sum of all forces acting on an object. Typically a number of forces act on a given object. The word 'force' can be used to refer to any of these forces, but the word 'net force' refers exclusively to the sum of all the forces (for future reference note that the word 'sum' refers to a vector sum; this idea of a vector sum will be clarified later).

If you're pushing your car on a level surface you are exerting a force, friction is opposing you, and the net force is the sum of the two (note that one is positive, the other negative so you end up with net force less than the force you are exerting). Your heart rate responds to the force you are exerting and the speed with which the car is moving. The acceleration of the car depends on the net force. **

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Question: Introductory prob set 3 #'s 1-6 If we know the distance an object is pushed and the work done by the pushing force, how do we find the net force exerted on the object?

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Your solution:

If you know the distance that an object is pushed and the work down by the force, then you can get the net force. The force is multiplied by the distance to obtain the work done by the force: F = `ds * `dW. So, you put the force and the distance in the equation and solve for the work done by the force.

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Given Solution:

Knowing the distance `ds and the work `dW we use the basic relationship

• `dW = F_net * `ds

Solving this equation for F we obtain

• F_net = `dW / `ds

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Question: If we know the net force exerted on an object and the distance through which the force acts how do we find the KE change of the object?

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Your solution:

If you are given the net force and the distance, then you can find the work done by the force, which is equal to the KE change of the object: F_net = `ds * `dW.

Then, F_net / `ds = `dW = KE.

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Given Solution:

First answer to the question (work = force * distance):

This first answer serves to give you the main idea:

• the KE change is equal to the work done by the net force.

• the work done by the net force is the product of the force and the distance through which it acts so

• the KE change is equal to the product of the force and the distance.

First answer modified to consider directions of force and motion (work = force * displacement in direction of force):

The previous answer applies only if the net force is in same the direction as the motion. More correctly:

• the KE change is equal to the work done by the net force.

• the work done by the net force is the product of the force and the displacement (not 'distance') in the direction of the force

• the KE change is equal to the product of the force and the displacement in the direction of the force.

The key difference here is the use of the word 'displacement' rather than 'distance'. Since a displacement, unlike a distance, can be positive or negative, so the work done by a force can be positive or negative.

Another thing to keep in mind for the future is that the displacement is in the direction of the force. We will later encounter instances where the force is not directed along the line on which the object moves.

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These ideas are expanded below.

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Synopsis of work-kinetic energy:

First be aware that because of Newton's Second Law, there are typically two equal and opposite net forces, the net force which acts on a system and the net force which is exerted by the system. It is necessary to be careful when we label our forces; it's easy to mix up forces exerted by a system with forces exerted on the system.

• The first basic principle is that the work by the net force acting ON the system is equal and opposite to the work done by the net force exerted BY the system.

The KE, on the other hand, is purely a property OF the system.

• The kinetic energy change OF the system is equal to the work done by the net force acting ON the system.

• The kinetic energy change OF the system is therefore equal and opposite to the work done by the net force exerted BY the system.

Intuitively, when work is done ON a system things speed up but when the system does work things have to slow down. A more specific statement would be

• If positive work is done ON a system, the total kinetic energy of the system increases.

• If positive work is done BY a system, the total kinetic energy of the system decreases.

(We could also state that if negative work is done ON a system, its total KE decreases, which should be easy to understand. It is also the case that if a system does negative work, its total KE increases; it's easy to see that this is a logical statement but most people fine that somehow it seems a little harder to grasp).

Below we use `dW_net_ON for the work done by the net force acting ON the system, and `dW_net_BY for the work done by the net force being exerted BY the system.

The work-kinetic energy theorem therefore has two basic forms:

The first form is

• `dW_net_ON = `dKE

which states that the work done by the net force acting ON the system is equal to the change in the KE of the system.

The second form is

• `dW_net_BY + `dKE = 0

which implies that when one of these quantities is positive the other is negative; thus this form tells us that when the system does positive net work its KE decreases.

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Summary:

• work = force * distance gives us the general idea but needs to be refined

• work = force * displacement is a correct definition as long as motion is along a straight line parallel to the force

• work = force * displacement in the direction of the force is true for all situations

• If the net force does positive work on the system, the system speeds up. Negative work on the system slows it down. More precisely:

• `dW_net_ON is the work done by the net force acting ON the system, and is equal to the KE change of the system. This is the work-kinetic energy theorem.

One alternative way of stating the work-kinetic energy theorem:

Forces exerted on the system are equal and opposite to forces exerted by the system, so

• If the net force exerted by the system does positive work the system slows down. Negative work done by the system speeds it up:

• `dW_net_BY is the work done by the net force exerted BY the system, and is equal and opposite to the KE change of the system

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Question: `qWhy is KE change equal to the product of net force and displacement?

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Your solution:

If the object exerts a force equal and in the opposite direction to the force that is exerted on it, then the object must do the same amount of work and in the opposite direction to the work that was done on it.

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Given Solution:

This comes from the equation vf^2 = v0^2 + 2 a `ds.

Newton's 2d Law says that a = Fnet / m.

So vf^2 = v0^2 + 2 Fnet / m `ds.

Rearranging we get F `ds = 1/2 m vf^2 - 1/2 m v0^2.

Defining KE as 1/2 m v^2 this is

F `ds = KEf - KE0, which is change in KE, so that

F `ds = `dKE.

Here F is the net force acting on the system, so we could more specifically write this as

• F_net_ON = `dKE.

STUDENT QUESTION: I do not see how you go from KE = 1/2 m v^2 to F_net 'ds = kEf - Ke0

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

If KE = 1/2 m v^2, then

KEf = 1/2 m vf^2 stands for the KE at the end of the interval and

KE0 = 1/2 m v0^2 stands for the KE at the beginning of the interval.

Then

F_net `ds = 1/2 m vf^2 - 1/2 m v0^2 becomes

F_net `ds = KEf - KE0.

STUDENT COMMENT

In my answer I simply related it to work, I didn’t realize It was supposed to be derived from a

formula. Either way, I have read through the solution and almost fully understand. I am only slightly confused by the initial

choice of formula. Was this just because these were the units that were given?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The definition of KE can be regarded as coming from the formula. The formula is there, and when we substitute a = F / m we get quantities which we define as work and KE.

The question that motivates us to do this is 'what happens when a certain force is exerted over a certain distance?'

This question can be contrasted with 'what happens when a certain force is exerted over a certain time interval?'. When we answer this question, we get the quantities we define as impulse and momentum.

University Physics Students Note: The formula approach outline above is based on the equations of uniformly accelerated motion. However the concept of work and kinetic energy applies whether acceleration is uniform or not.

If a force F(x) is applied over a displacement interval from x_0 to x_f, we define the work to be the definite integral of F(x) with respect to x, over this interval, and it isn't difficult to show that the result is the change in the KE. If F(x) is constant, then the result is equivalent to what we get from the equations of uniform acceleration.

Similarly if force F(t) is applied over a time interval, an integral leads us to the general definitions of impulse and momentum.

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Self-critique (if necessary):

I do not understand why you related this to that one specific equation???

I assume you mean the equation

vf^2 = v0^2 + 2 a `ds.

The original question concerned the effect on velocity of applying a given force on a given mass through a given displacement, starting with a given initial velocity.

The given force and mass imply the acceleration.

Acceleration, initial velocity and acceleration imply the final velocity.

So the equations arise naturally from the question.

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Question: When we push an actual object with a constant force, why do we not expect that the KE change is equal to the product F * `ds of the force we exert and the distance?

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Your solution:

I am not sure why we would not expect the KE change in be equal to the work done by the force, because the work done of the force at a constant force will be equal to the KE change.

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Given Solution:

Change in KE is equal to the work done by the net force, not by the force I exert. i.e.,

`dKE = F_net * `ds

The net force is not generally equal to the force I exert.

When I push an object in the real world, with no other force 'helping' me, there is always at least a little force resisting my push. So the net force in this case is less than the force I exert, in which case the change in KE would be less than the product of the force I exert and the distance.

If another force is 'helping' me then it's possible that the net force could be greater than the force I exert, in which case the change in KE would be greater than the product of the force I exert and the distance.

It is actually possible for the 'helping' force to exactly balance the resisting force, but an exact balance would be nearly impossible to achieve.

ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT: If I push in the direction of motion then I do positive work on the system and the system does negative work on me. That should increase the KE of the system. However if I'm pushing an object in the real world and there is friction and perhaps other dissipative forces which tend to resist the motion. So not all the work I do ends up going into the KE of the object.

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Self-critique (if necessary):

I understand now. That was almost a trick question, because they do equal each other, I just did not catch the wrong part of the question.

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