course mth172 sorry i didn't finish it. the e is not working for me on the windows calc. i'll grab my calculator tomorrow.
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16:40:09 Note that there are 11 questions in this assignment. `q001. Suppose that you expect for the next 6 years to receive a steady stream of extra income, at the rate of $20,000 per year. This income is expected to 'flow in' at a constant rate, day by day. Suppose furthermore that you expect that your money will grow at a constant annual rate of 8%. Assuming you do not use any of the money or interest, the question we want to answer is how much you would therefore expect to have at the end of 6 years. This problem is complicated by the fact that the money that goes in, say, today will earn interest over a longer period than the money you earn tomorrow. In fact, the money you receive in one minute will earn interest for a different length of time than the money you receive in a different minute. To begin to answer the problem you could start out by saying that while some of the money will earn interest for 6 years, some will go in at the very end of the 6-year period and will therefore not earn any interest at all, so the average time period for earning interest will be 3 years. You could then calculate the interest on the full amount for 3 years, and get a fairly good idea of the final amount. As we will see, you can't get a precise estimate this way, but it gives you a reasonable starting estimate. What would be the simple interest on the total 6-year amount of money flow for 3 years, and what would be the final amount?
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RESPONSE --> ok.
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16:40:21 The total money flow would be $20,000 per year for 6 years, or $120,000. 8% simple interest for 3 years would be 3 * 8% = 24%, and 24% of $120,000 is $28,800, so your first estimate would be $28,800. You therefore expect to end up with something not too far from $148,800.
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RESPONSE --> ok.
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16:45:11 `q002. Money usually doesn't earn simple interest. Interest is almost always compounded. If the interest on $120,000 was compounded annually at 8% for 3 years, what would be the final amount?
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RESPONSE --> 129600- year 1 139968- year 2 151165.44- year 3
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16:45:54 There is a more efficient way to calculate this, but we'll see that shortly. 8% of $120,000 is $9600, so after 1 year we will have $120,000 + $9600 = $129,600. Note that this result could have been obtained by multiplying $120,000 by 1.08. We will use this strategy for the next two years. After another year we will have $129,600 * 1.08 = $139,968. If you wish you can take 8% of $129,600 and add it to $129,600; you will still get $139,968. After a third year you will have $139,968 * 1.08 = $151,165. Note that this beats the $148,800 you calculated with simple interest. This is because each year the interest is applied to a greater amount than before; previously the interest was just applied to the starting amount.
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RESPONSE --> ok.
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16:59:45 `q003. Money can earn interest that is compounded annually, quarterly, weekly, daily, hourly, or whatever. For given interest rate the maximum interest will be obtained if the money is compounded continuously. When initial principle P0 is compounded continuously at rate r for t interest periods (e.g., at rate 8% = .08 for t years), the amount at the end of the time is P = P0 * e^(r t). If the $120,000 was compounded continuously at 8% annual interest for 3 years, what would be the amount at the end of that period?
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RESPONSE --> P0 * e^(r t) 120g * e^(1.08x3) and the crappy windows calc gives a wierd notation for e and my other calc is not here, so this is all i can calc.
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17:01:52 We would have P0 = $120,000, r = .08 and t = 3. So the amount would be P = $120,000 * e^(.08 * 3) = $120,000 * e^(.24) = $152,549. This beats the annual compounding by over $1,000.
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RESPONSE --> ok. i see. the 1 is basically in the e so it is not needed in the .08, kinda.
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17:03:37 `q004. This keeps getting better and better. We end up with more and more money. Now let's see how much money we would really end up with, if the money started compounding continuously as soon as it 'flowed' into the account. As a first step, we note that 6 years is 72 months. About how much would the money flowing into the account during the 6th month be worth at the end of the 72 months?
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RESPONSE --> you know i could do this if i have a good calculator.
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17:08:08 Flowing into the account at a constant rate of $20,000 per year, we see that the monthly flow is $20,000 / 12 = $1,666.67. The $1,666,67 that flows in during the 6th month will have about 72 - 5.5 = 66.5 months to grow. [ Note that we use the 5.5 instead of 6 because the midpoint of the 6th month is 5.5 months after the beginning of the 72-month period (the first month starts at month 0 and ends up at month 1, so its midway point is month .5; the nth month starts at the end of month n-1 and ends at the end of month n so its midway point is (n - 1) + .5). ] 66.5 months is 66.5/12 = 5.54 years, approximately. So the $1,666,67 would grow at the continuous rate of 8 percent for 5.54 years. This would result in a principle of $1,666,67 * e^(.08 * 5.54) = $2596.14.
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RESPONSE --> just like the water problem stuff. yup.
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17:09:26 `q005. How much will the money flowing into the account during the 66th month be worth at the end of the 72 months?
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RESPONSE --> ok. i'll finish this tomorrow, with a good calc.
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course mth 172 this is kinda interesting.i'll try again tomorrow if you get this posted.
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RESPONSE --> p=e^(.08x6)x120g p=193928.93 = new po p=e^(.08x(72-6))x new po p=38,081,799.81 dollars.
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18:07:21 Flowing into the account at a constant rate of $20,000 per year, we see that the monthly flow is $20,000 / 12 = $1,666.67. The $1,666,67 that flows in during the 6th month will have about 72 - 5.5 = 66.5 months to grow. [ Note that we use the 5.5 instead of 6 because the midpoint of the 6th month is 5.5 months after the beginning of the 72-month period (the first month starts at month 0 and ends up at month 1, so its midway point is month .5; the nth month starts at the end of month n-1 and ends at the end of month n so its midway point is (n - 1) + .5). ] 66.5 months is 66.5/12 = 5.54 years, approximately. So the $1,666,67 would grow at the continuous rate of 8 percent for 5.54 years. This would result in a principle of $1,666,67 * e^(.08 * 5.54) = $2596.14.
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RESPONSE --> oohh crap. i did 120g instead of 20g. is that still right?
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18:13:35 `q005. How much will the money flowing into the account during the 66th month be worth at the end of the 72 months?
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RESPONSE --> p=e^(66x.08)x20g p=3927397.51 p=e^((72-66)x.08)x3927397.51 p=6346966.58
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18:16:47 Again $1,666,67 would flow into the account during this month. The midpoint of this month is 65.5 months after the start of the 72-month period, so the money will have an average of about 6.5 months, or 6.5 / 12 = .54 years, approx., to grow. Thus the money that flows in during the 66th month will grow to $1,666,67 * e^(.08 * .54) = $1737, approx..
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RESPONSE --> ok, why did it change to years/ not months? you lost me.
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18:21:37 `q006. We could do a month-by-month calculation and add up all the results to get a pretty accurate approximation of the amount at the end of the 72 months. We would end up with $152,511, not quite as much as our last estimate for the entire 72 months. Of course this approximation still isn't completely accurate, because the money that comes in that the beginning of a month earns interest for longer than the money that comes in at the end of the month. We could chop up the 72 months into over 2000 days and calculate the value of the money that comes in each day. But even that wouldn't be completely accurate. We now develop a model that will be completely accurate. We first imagine a short time span near some point in the 72 months, and calculate the value of the income flow during that time span. We are going to use symbols because our calculation asked to apply to any time span at anytime during the 72 months. We will use t for the time since beginning of the 6-year period, to the short time span we are considering; in previous examples t was the midpoint of the specified month: t = 5.5 months in the first calculation and 66.5 months in the second. We will use `dt (remember that this stands for the symbolic expression delta-t) for the duration of the time interval; in the previous examples `dt was 1 month. For a time interval of length `dt, how much money flows? Assume `dt is in years. If this money flow occurs at t years from the beginning of the 6-year period, then how long as it have to grow?
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RESPONSE --> ok. this doesn't seem that hard except the months vs. years thing.
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18:23:06 The amount in 1 year is $20,000 so the amount in `dt years is $20,000 * `dt. Money that flows in near the time t years from the beginning of the 6-year period will have (6-t) years to grow.
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RESPONSE --> ok. i understand that relating to/being the dirivitive stuff.
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18:23:50 `q007. How much will the $20,000 `dt amount received at t years from the start grow to in the remaining (6-t) years?
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RESPONSE --> um, again, in months or years?
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