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Applied Calculus I

06-23-2006

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13:52:31

Query class notes #06 If x is the height of a sandpile and y the volume, what proportionality governs geometrically similar sandpiles? Why should this be the proportionality?

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y= ax^3 or a= y/ x^3 .....because this is the forumula for proportionalitys when dealing with volume

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13:53:46

** the proportionality is y = k x^3. Any proportionality of volumes is a y = k x^3 proportionality because volumes can be filled with tiny cubes; surface areas are y = k x^2 because surfaces can be covered with tiny squares. **

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I said this but I didnt not explain the volume part of it .....I should have said the part about volume being filled with cubes.

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13:54:34

If x is the radius of a spherical balloon and y the surface area, what proportionality governs the relationship between y and x? Why should this be the proportionality?

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y= ax^2 because we are talkng about surface area

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13:56:52

** Just as little cubes can be thought of as filling the volume to any desired level of accuracy, little squares can be thought of as covering any smooth surface. Cubes 'scale up' in three dimensions, squares in only two. So the proportionality is y = k x^2.

Surfaces can be covered as nearly as we like with tiny squares (the more closely we want to cover a sphere the tinier the squares would have to be). The area of a square is proportional to the square of its linear dimensions. Radius is a linear dimension. Thus the proportionality for areas is y = k x^2.

By contrast, for volumes or things that depend on volume, like mass or weight, we would use tiny cubes to fill the volume. Volume of a cube is proportional to the cube of linear dimensions. Thus the proportionality for a volume would be y = k x^3. **

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I needed to go in a lot more detail and talk about the radius and it being linear. .....Actually to be honest I am not quit sure what you mean when you say that the square and the radius are both linear? Thanks.

I don't think I said that the square is linear.

The radius of a circle or a sphere is linear--it's something you could measure with a ruler.

The length of a side of a square or a cube is linear--again you could measure those lengths with a ruler.

The circumference of a circle is linear--you could straighten the circumference out and measure it with a ruler. The same could be said about the perimeter of a polygon, or of any other standard geometric figure, for that matter. If you could follow a curve with a string, then straighten out the string and measure it with a ruler, than its length is a linear quantity. Linear quantities are 1-dimensional.

You can't 'straighten out' a cube, or a sphere, or a square, or a circle, or a triangle. It doesn't even make sense to talk about straightening those figures out. They are 2- or 3-dimensional. They might have characteristics (e.g., radius, perimeter) that are 1-dimensional, but the figures themselves are not.

However you can cover the surface of an object with tiny squares, so you can talk about the area of the surface. Just as tiny squares have areas that are proportional to the squares of the lengths of their sides, the surface areas of two geometrically similar figures are proportional to the squares of their linear dimensions.

And you can fill the inside of an ordinary 3-dimensional object with tiny cubes, so you can talk about the volume of the object. Just as tiny cubes have volumes that are proportional to the cubes of the lengths of their sides, the volumes of two geometrically similar solids are proportional to the cubees of their linear dimensions.

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13:58:59

Explain how you would use the concept of the differential to find the volume of a sandpile of height 5.01 given the volume of a geometrically similar sandpile of height 5, and given the value of k in the y = k x^3 proportionality between height and volume.

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y= ax^3

y= 3ax^2

That should be y ' = 3 a x^2.

This tells you that `dy = 3 a x^2 `dx.

we know that x= 5

y= 75 a

the difference between 5.01 and 5= .01

=.75

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13:59:59

** The class notes showed you that the slope of the y = k x^3 graph is given by the rate-of-change function y' = 3 k x^2. Once you have evaluated k, using the given information, you can evaluate y' at x = 5. That gives you the slope of the line tangent to the curve, and also the rate at which y is changing with respect to x. When you multiply this rate by the change in x, you get the change in y.

The differential is 3 k x^2 `dx and is approximately equal to the corresponding `dy. Since `dy / `dx = 3 k x^2, the differential looks like a simple algebraic rearrangement `dy = 3 k x^2 `dx, though what's involved isn't really simple algebra. The differential expresses the fact that near a point, provided the function has a continuous derivative, the approximate change in y can be found by multiplying the change in x by the derivative). That is, `dy = derivative * `dx (approx)., or `dy = slope at given point * `dx (approx), or `dy = 3 k x^2 `dx (approx).

The idea is that the derivative is the rate of change of the function. We can use the rate of change and the change in x to find the change in y.

The differential uses the fact that near x = 5 the change in y can be approximated using the rate of change at x = 5.

Our proportionality is y = k x^3. Let y = f(x) = k x^3. Then y' = f'(x) = 3 k x^2. When x = 5 we have y' = f'(5) = 75 k, whatever k is. To estimate the change in y corresponding to the change .01 in x, we will multiply y ' by .01, getting a change of y ' `dx = 75 k * .01.

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SPECIFIC EXAMPLE: We don't know what k is for this specific question. As a specific example suppose our information let us to the value k = .002, so that our proportionality is y = .002 x^3. Then the rate of change when x is 5 would be f'(5) = 3 k x^2 = 3 k * 5^2 = 75 k = .15 and the value of y would be y = f(5) = .002 * 5^3 = .25. This tells us that at x = 5 the function is changing at a rate of .15 units of y for each unit of x.

Thus if x changes from 5 to 5.01 we expect that the change will be

change in y = (dy/dx) * `dx =

rate of change * change in x (approx) =

.15 * .01 = .0015,

so that when x = 5.01, y should be .0015 greater than it was when x was 5. Thus y = .25 + .0015 = .2515. This is the differential approximation. It doesn't take account of the fact that the rate changes slightly between x=5 and x = 5.01. But we don't expect it to change much over that short increment, so we expect that the approximation is pretty good.

Now, if you evaluate f at x = 5.01 you get .251503. This is a little different than the .2515 approximation we got from the differential--the differential is off by .000003. That's not much, and we expected it wouldn't be much because the derivative doesn't change much over that short interval. But it does change a little, and that's the reason for the discrepancy.

The differential works very well for decently behaved functions (ones with smooth curves for graphs) over sufficiently short intervals.**

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I am not sure about this one after looking at your work.......should I have multipilied .01 and 75 ....

You ultimately have to calculate

`dy = 3 a x^2 `dx.

So to find `dy you have to know or identify the values of a, x and `dx for this situation.

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14:01:39

What would be the rate of depth change for the depth function y = .02 t^2 - 3 t + 6 at t = 30? (instant response not required)

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deriv...

y= 2at+ b

y= 2(.02)t + -3

t= 30

y= -1.8

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14:02:26

** You saw in the class notes and in the q_a_ that the rate of change for depth function y = a t^2 + b t + c is y ' = 2 a t + b. This is the function that should be evaluated to give you the rate.

Evaluating the rate of depth change function y ' = .04 t - 3 for t = 30 we get y ' = .04 * 30 - 3 = 1.2 - 3 = -1.8.

COMMON ERROR: y = .02(30)^2 - 2(30) + 6 =-36 would be the rate of depth change

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT: This is the depth, not the rate of depth change. **

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I know that we need to find the deriv.....and that allowed me to get the right answer...

Good.

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Good work, overall. See my notes and be sure you understand all the details. Let me know if you have questions.