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course Phy 232

6/15/12 submitted around 1:08PM

If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions athttp://vhcc2.vhcc.edu/dsmith/geninfo/labrynth_created_fall_05/levl1_22/levl2_81/file3_259.htm

Your solution, attempt at solution:

If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it. This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

007. `query 6

Question: query introset How do we find the change in pressure due to diameter change given the original velocity of the flow and pipe diameter and final diameter?

Your Solution:

Since the cross sectional area is proportional to the square of the diameter the velocity must be inversely proportional to the cross sectional area which gives us this equation: v2=(d1/d2)^2*v1

We can assume that the height stays constant so we get the formula:P2=P1=.05*rho(v1^2-v2^2)

Confidence Rating: 3

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Given Solution:

** The ratio of velocities is the inverse ratio of cross-sectional areas.

Cross-sectional area is proportional to square of diameter. So velocity is inversely proportional to cross-sectional area:

v2 / v1 = (A1 / A2) = (d1 / d2)^2 so

v2 = (d1/d2)^2 * v1.

Since h presumably remains constant we have

P1 + .5 rho v1^2 = P2 + .5 rho v2^2 so

(P2 - P1) = 0.5 *rho (v1^2 - v2^2) . **

Your Self-Critique: OK

Your Self-Critique Rating: 3

Question: query video experiment terminal velocity of sphere in fluid. What is the evidence from this experiment that the drag force increases with velocity?

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Your Solution:

In the video when the weights were added the velocity of the sphere in the fluid increased. Yet as the velocity went towards .1254m/sec the weights did not increase the velocity anymore. I think that as the velocity increased the drag also increased.

Confidence Rating: 3

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Given Solution:

** When weights were repetitively added the velocity of the sphere repetitively increased. As the velocities started to aproach 0.1254 m/sec the added weights had less and less effect on increasing the velocity. We conclude that as the velocity increased so did the drag force of the water. **

Your Self-Critique: OK

Your Self-Critique Rating: 3

Question: query univ phy problem 12.93 / 14.91 11th edition14.85 (14.89 10th edition) half-area constriction then open to outflow at dist h1 below reservoir level, tube from lower reservoir into constricted area, same fluid in both. Find ht h2 to which fluid in lower tube rises.

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Your Solution:

We can use Bernoulli’s equation for this problem: .5rhovExit^2 =rho gh1

We can now look at the point 1, which is in the narrowed tube; point 2 is at the top of the fluid in the lower tube and point 3 at the level of the fluid surface in the lower container.

Point 1: atmospheric pressure and velocity is vExit

Point 2: the fluid velocity is zero. We could use the formula atmospheric pressure +rhogh1

Looking at point 2 and point 3: there is a difference in the fluid height but I don’t know how to solve the formulas or where to go from here in this problem.

confidence rating #$&*:

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Given Solution:

** The fluid exits the narrowed part of the tube at atmospheric pressure. The widened part at the end of the tube is irrelevant--it won't be filled with fluid. So Bernoulli's Equation will tell you that the fluid velocity in this part is vExit such that .5 rho vExit^2 = rho g h1.

Now compare three points: point 1, in the narrowed tube; point 2 at the top of the fluid in the lower tube; and point 3 at the level of the fluid surface in the lower container.

At point 1 the pressure is atmospheric and velocity is vExit. Pressure is atmospheric because there is no pressure loss within the tube, since friction and viscosity are both assumed negligible.

At point 2 fluid velocity is zero. Since there is a path through the atmosphere between the narrowed tube and this point there is no net rho g h contribution to Bernoulli's equation. So we have .5 rho v1^2 + P1 = .5 rho v2^2 + P2. P1 is atmospheric and v1 is vExit from above, while v2 = 0 so P2 = atmospheric pressure + .5 rho vExit^2 = atmospheric pressure + rho g h1.

Now comparing point 2 with point 3 we see that there is a difference h in the fluid altitude, with velocity 0 at both points and atmospheric pressure at point 3. Thus P2 + rho g h2 = P3 + rho g h3, or (atmospheric pressure + rho g h1) + rho g h2 = atmospheric pressure + rho g h3. Thus rho g (h3 - h2) = rho g h1 and h3 - h2, which is the height of the fluid in the lower tube, is just equal to h1.

If we assume that somehow the fluid manages to expand on escaping the narrowed tube so that it fills the once-again-widened tube, and exits with vExit as above, then the velocity in the narrowed tube will be 2 * vExit. This leads to the conclusion that pressure change from small to large tube is .5 rho (2 vExit)^2 - .5 rho vExit^2 = .5 rho (3 vExit^2). Since pressure is atmospheric in the large tube, pressure in the small tube is atmospheric pressure + 3 ( .5 rho vExit^2). If we use this pressure for point 1 and follow the steps given above we conclude that h3 - h2, the height of the fluid column in the lower tube, is 3 h1.

This is the book's answer. Again I don't have the problem in front of me and I might have missed something, but the idea of the fluid expanding to refill the larger pipe doesn't seem consistent with the behavior of liquids, which are pretty much incompressible at ordinary pressures. However note that I am sometimes wrong when I disagree with the textbook's solution. **

Your Self-Critique: I still don’t know what to do by looking at the given answer.

Your Self-Critique Rating: 1

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query_7

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course Phy 232

6/15/12 submitted around 1:08PM

If your solution to stated problem does not match the given solution, you should self-critique per instructions athttp://vhcc2.vhcc.edu/dsmith/geninfo/labrynth_created_fall_05/levl1_22/levl2_81/file3_259.htm

Your solution, attempt at solution:

If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it. This response should be given, based on the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

007. `query 6

Question: query introset How do we find the change in pressure due to diameter change given the original velocity of the flow and pipe diameter and final diameter?

Your Solution:

Since the cross sectional area is proportional to the square of the diameter the velocity must be inversely proportional to the cross sectional area which gives us this equation: v2=(d1/d2)^2*v1

We can assume that the height stays constant so we get the formula:P2=P1=.05*rho(v1^2-v2^2)

Confidence Rating: 3

.............................................

Given Solution:

** The ratio of velocities is the inverse ratio of cross-sectional areas.

Cross-sectional area is proportional to square of diameter. So velocity is inversely proportional to cross-sectional area:

v2 / v1 = (A1 / A2) = (d1 / d2)^2 so

v2 = (d1/d2)^2 * v1.

Since h presumably remains constant we have

P1 + .5 rho v1^2 = P2 + .5 rho v2^2 so

(P2 - P1) = 0.5 *rho (v1^2 - v2^2) . **

Your Self-Critique: OK

Your Self-Critique Rating: 3

Question: query video experiment terminal velocity of sphere in fluid. What is the evidence from this experiment that the drag force increases with velocity?

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Your Solution:

In the video when the weights were added the velocity of the sphere in the fluid increased. Yet as the velocity went towards .1254m/sec the weights did not increase the velocity anymore. I think that as the velocity increased the drag also increased.

Confidence Rating: 3

.............................................

Given Solution:

** When weights were repetitively added the velocity of the sphere repetitively increased. As the velocities started to aproach 0.1254 m/sec the added weights had less and less effect on increasing the velocity. We conclude that as the velocity increased so did the drag force of the water. **

Your Self-Critique: OK

Your Self-Critique Rating: 3

Question: query univ phy problem 12.93 / 14.91 11th edition14.85 (14.89 10th edition) half-area constriction then open to outflow at dist h1 below reservoir level, tube from lower reservoir into constricted area, same fluid in both. Find ht h2 to which fluid in lower tube rises.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Your Solution:

We can use Bernoulli’s equation for this problem: .5rhovExit^2 =rho gh1

We can now look at the point 1, which is in the narrowed tube; point 2 is at the top of the fluid in the lower tube and point 3 at the level of the fluid surface in the lower container.

Point 1: atmospheric pressure and velocity is vExit

Point 2: the fluid velocity is zero. We could use the formula atmospheric pressure +rhogh1

Looking at point 2 and point 3: there is a difference in the fluid height but I don’t know how to solve the formulas or where to go from here in this problem.

confidence rating #$&*:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Given Solution:

** The fluid exits the narrowed part of the tube at atmospheric pressure. The widened part at the end of the tube is irrelevant--it won't be filled with fluid. So Bernoulli's Equation will tell you that the fluid velocity in this part is vExit such that .5 rho vExit^2 = rho g h1.

Now compare three points: point 1, in the narrowed tube; point 2 at the top of the fluid in the lower tube; and point 3 at the level of the fluid surface in the lower container.

At point 1 the pressure is atmospheric and velocity is vExit. Pressure is atmospheric because there is no pressure loss within the tube, since friction and viscosity are both assumed negligible.

At point 2 fluid velocity is zero. Since there is a path through the atmosphere between the narrowed tube and this point there is no net rho g h contribution to Bernoulli's equation. So we have .5 rho v1^2 + P1 = .5 rho v2^2 + P2. P1 is atmospheric and v1 is vExit from above, while v2 = 0 so P2 = atmospheric pressure + .5 rho vExit^2 = atmospheric pressure + rho g h1.

Now comparing point 2 with point 3 we see that there is a difference h in the fluid altitude, with velocity 0 at both points and atmospheric pressure at point 3. Thus P2 + rho g h2 = P3 + rho g h3, or (atmospheric pressure + rho g h1) + rho g h2 = atmospheric pressure + rho g h3. Thus rho g (h3 - h2) = rho g h1 and h3 - h2, which is the height of the fluid in the lower tube, is just equal to h1.

If we assume that somehow the fluid manages to expand on escaping the narrowed tube so that it fills the once-again-widened tube, and exits with vExit as above, then the velocity in the narrowed tube will be 2 * vExit. This leads to the conclusion that pressure change from small to large tube is .5 rho (2 vExit)^2 - .5 rho vExit^2 = .5 rho (3 vExit^2). Since pressure is atmospheric in the large tube, pressure in the small tube is atmospheric pressure + 3 ( .5 rho vExit^2). If we use this pressure for point 1 and follow the steps given above we conclude that h3 - h2, the height of the fluid column in the lower tube, is 3 h1.

This is the book's answer. Again I don't have the problem in front of me and I might have missed something, but the idea of the fluid expanding to refill the larger pipe doesn't seem consistent with the behavior of liquids, which are pretty much incompressible at ordinary pressures. However note that I am sometimes wrong when I disagree with the textbook's solution. **

Your Self-Critique: I still don’t know what to do by looking at the given answer.

Your Self-Critique Rating: 1

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