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along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about

it. This response should be given, based on the work you did in

completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

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Question: `qClass notes #15

When a projectile rolls off a ramp with its velocity in the

horizontal direction, why do we expect that its horizontal range

`dx will be proportional to the square root of its vertical

displacement `dy rolling down the ramp?

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Your solution:

They are both proportional to the time so that would make them

propotional to each other when time is the same.

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Given Solution:

`a**

A quick synopsis:

The object accelerates uniformly downward, so the distance it

falls is proportional to the square of the time of fall. Thus

the time of fall is proportional to the square root of the

distance fallen.

The object's horizontal velocity is constant, so its horizontal

distance is proportional to the time of fall.

So the horizontal distance is proportional to the square root of

the distance it falls.

More details:

The distance of vertical fall, starting with vertical velocity 0,

is

`dy = v0 `dt + .5 a `dt^2 = 0 `dt + .5 a `dt^2 = .5 a `dt^2,

so `dy is proportional to `dt^2.

Equivalently, therefore, `dt is proportional to sqrt(`dy).

The horizontal distance is

`dx = v_horiz * `dt

so `dx is proportional to `dt.

`dx is proportional to `dt, and `dt is proportional to sqrt(`dy),

so `dx is proportional to sqrt(`dy).

STUDENT RESPONSE WITH INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:

When the

object is accelerating downward the distance it falls is equal to

the square root of the time it takes to fall.

Right idea but that would be the square of the time, not the

square root.

So the time of our fall is equal to proportional to, not equal

to; again you have the right idea the square root of the distance

the object fell. Our horizontal velocity is constant which will

make our horizontal distance equal to the time of the fall.

Because of this, the horizontal distance in equal to the square

root of the distance that our object falls.

Good.

To summarize:

The vertical distance is proportional to the square of the time

of fall, so the time of fall is proportional to the square root

of the distance fallen.

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Question: `qIn the preceding situation why do we expect that the

vertical kinetic energy of the ball will be proportional to `dy?

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Your solution:

KE = -PE so as the object falls the kinetic energy will change.

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Given Solution:

`a**

This could be argued by analyzing the motion of the object, and

using the definition of kinetic energy:

The vertical velocity attained by the ball is vf = `sqrt(v0^2 + 2

a `ds).

Since the initial vertical velocity is 0, for distance of fall

`dy we have vf = `sqrt( 2 a `dy ), showing that the vertical

velocity is proportional to the square root of the distance

fallen.

Since KE is .5 m v^2, the KE will be proportional to the square

of the velocity, hence to the square of the square root of `dy.

Thus KE is proportional to `dy. **

In terms of energy the argument is simpler:

PE loss is -m g `dy.

Since m and g are constant for this situation, PE loss is

therefore proportional to `dy. (This means, for example, that if

`dy is doubled then PE loss is doubled; if `dy is halved then PE

loss is halved.)

KE gain is equal to the PE loss, so KE gain is also proportional

to `dy.

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Question: `qWhy do we expect that the KE of the ball will in

fact be less than the PE change of the ball?

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Your solution:

The object will lose some energy to air friction and therefore

dPE is not = to KE.

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Given Solution:

`a** There is some air friction, which dissipates some of the

energy. PE is lost and the lost PE goes into an increase in KE,

and into dissipated energy. The KE increase and dissipated

energy 'share' the 'lost' PE.

STUDENT RESPONSE: Because actually some of the energy will be

dissipated in the rotation of the ball as it drops?

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT: Good try. However there is KE in the

rotation, so rotation accounts for some of the KE but doesn't

dissipate KE. Rotational KE is recoverable--for example if you

place a spinning ball on an incline the spin can carry the ball a

ways up the incline, doing work in the process. Dissipated energy

is not recoverable.

The PE loss is converted to KE, some into rotational KE which

doesn't contribute to the range of the ball and some of which

simply makes the ball spin.

ANOTHER STUDENT RESPONSE: And also the loss of energy due to

friction and conversion to thermal energy.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT: Good. There would be a slight amount of air

friction and this would dissipate energy as you describe here, as

would friction with the ramp (which would indeed result in

dissipation in the form of thermal energy). **

STUDENT QUESTION

Ok, so air friction, dissipating energy, lowers the PE and

Increases the KE.

So does this mean that they do not neccessarily have to be equal

and opposite of each other?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Air friction doesn't lower the PE; it's the change in altitude

that lowers the PE (an object's gravitational potential energy

gets lower as it descends). The loss of PE results in an

increase in KE, though not as great an increase as if air

friction wasn't present.

Related to the idea that `dKE and `dPE should be equal and

opposite (which is sometimes the case and sometimes not):

The energy situation is governed by the work-energy theorem in

the form

`dW_noncons_ON = `dKE + `dPE.

In general, a nonconservative force can increase the KE and/or

the PE in any way at all. It can increase one without changing

the other. `dKE and `dPE are not generally equal and opposite.

For example you can speed up a cart by pushing or pulling it

along a level surface. The force you exert is nonconservative,

and it increases the KE of the cart without changing its PE. Or

you could lift an object at a constant speed; its KE wouldn't

change but its gravitational PE would.

However in some situations nonconservative forces are either

absent or negligible. For example if you toss a steel ball a

couple of meters into the air and let it fall to the ground, it

doesn't attain enough speed for air resistance to become

significant, so once you release it the ball pretty much behaves

as if nonconservative forces were absent. Then as it rises it

slows down, decreasing its KE and increasing its PE. As it then

falls its PE decreases but it speeds up, increasing its KE.

Changes in KE and PE turn out, in this case, to be equal and

opposite.

Formally, since `dW_noncons_ON = `dKE + `dPE, it follows that if

there are no nonconservative forces `dKE + `dPE = 0 and `dKE and

`dPE are equal and opposite.

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Question: `qprin phy and gen phy 6.18 work to stop 1250 kg auto

from 105 km/hr

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Your solution:

105 km/hr = 105*(1000 m / 3600 sec)

= 29.17 m/sec

W = dKE

W = 0.5(m)(vf^2)-0.5(m)(v0^2)

W = 0.5(1250 kg)(29.17^2 m/sec)-0

W = 531,806 J

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Given Solution:

`aThe work required to stop the automobile, by the work-energy

theorem, is equal and opposite to its change in kinetic energy:

`dW = - `dKE.

The initial KE of the automobile is .5 m v^2, and before

calculating this we convert 105 km/hr to m/s: 105 km/hr = 105 km

/ hr * 1000 m / km * 1 hr / 3600 s = 29.1 m/s. Our initial KE is

therefore

KE = .5 m v^2 = .5 * 1250 kg * (29.1 m/s)^2 = 530,000 kg m^2 /

s^2 = 530,000 J.

The car comes to rest so its final KE is 0. The change in KE is

therefore -530,000 J.

It follows that the work required to stop the car is `dW = - `dKE

= - (-530,000 J) = 530,000 J.

STUDENT QUESTION

ok so the KE can be negative and the 'dw can be positive?

Since the car is coming to rest I see why the KE would be

negative, but I would think that the 'dw would also be negative ?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The given solution was more intuitive, and wasn't completely

specific in its application of the work-energy theorem. It would

have been more precise to say that to decrease the car's KE by

530 000 J, the car had to do 530 000 J of work against friction.

To be really consistent, careful use of the _ON and _BY

subscripts will be helpful:

In terms of the work-energy theorem:

`dW_net_ON = `dKE.

Since the car's KE decreases, `dKE is negative and the net force

acting on the car does negative work. We conclude that

`dW_net_ON = -530 000 J.

The net force acting on the car is friction, so it would be

accurate to say that the frictional force acting on the car does

-530 000 J of work.

The car exerts an equal and opposite frictional force on the

road. So the work done BY the car is equal and opposite to the

work done ON the car:

`dW_net_BY = -`dW_net_ON = +530 000 J.

So the car does 530 000 J of work, thus decreasing its KE by 530

000 J.

The problem as stated wasn't specific about whether the work it

requested was done on or by the car, so as it turns out either

answer could be considered correct.

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Question: `qprin and gen phy 6.26. spring const 440 N/m;

stretch required to store 25 J of PE.

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Your solution:

PEs = 0.5 * k * x^2

25 J = 0.5 * 440 N/m * x^2

x = +-0.34 m

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Given Solution:

`aThe force exerted by a spring at equilibrium is 0, and the

force at position x is - k x, so the average force exerted

between equilibrium and position x is (0 + (-kx) ) / 2 = -1/2 k

x. The work done by the spring as it is stretched from

equilibrium to position x, a displacment of x, is therefore `dW =

F * `ds = -1/2 k x * x = -1/2 k x^2. The only force exerted by

the spring is the conservative elastic force, so the PE change of

the spring is therefore `dPE = -`dW = - (-1/2 kx^2) = 1/2 k x^2.

That is, the spring stores PE = 1/2 k x^2.

In this situation k = 440 N / m and the desired PE is 25 J.

Solving PE = 1/2 k x^2 for x (multiply both sides by 2 and divide

both sides by k, then take the square root of both sides) we

obtain

x = +-sqrt(2 PE / k) = +-sqrt( 2 * 25 J / (440 N/m) ) = +- sqrt(

50 kg m^2 / s^2 / ( (440 kg m/s^2) / m) )= +- sqrt(50 / 440)

sqrt(kg m^2 / s^2 * (s^2 / kg) ) = +- .34 sqrt(m^2) = +-.34 m.

The spring will store 25 J of energy at either the +.34 m or the

-.34 m position.

Brief summary of elastic PE, leaving out a few technicalities:

1/2 k x is the average force, x is the displacement so the work

is 1/2 k x * x = 1/2 k x^2

F = -k x

Work to stretch = ave stretching force * distance of stretch

ave force is average of initial and final force (since force is

linear)

applying these two ideas the work to stretch from equilibrium to

position x is 1/2 k x * x, representing ave force * distance

the force is conservative, so this is the elastic PE at position

x

STUDENT QUESTION:

What does the kx stand for?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The premise is that when the end of the spring is displaced from

its equilibrium position by displacement x, it will exert a force

F = - k x back toward the equilibrium point.

Since the force is directed back toward the equilibrium point, it

tends to 'restore' the end of the spring to its equilibrium

position. Thus F in this case is called the 'restoring force'.

The force is F = - k x, with F being proportional to x, i.e,. the

first power of the displacement. A graph of F vs. x would

therefore be a straight line, and the restoring force is

therefore said to be linear. A function is linear if its graph is

a straight line.

So we say that F = - k x represents a linear restoring force.

STUDENT QUESTION

Is this another formula, or is it a manipulation of a formula

that we are already given?

I am confused on what this means, I see that we end up with

distance....I see how it is worked out, but I do not know what

it means

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The force exerted by a spring is F = - k x, where x is how far it

is stretched (positive x) or compressed (negative x):

If a spring is stretched beyond its equilibrium length it 'pulls

back' with a tension that increases the more it is stretched. If

x is how far it is stretched past its equilibrium length, then a

positive stretch x results in a tension force in the negative

direction.

For an ideal spring, a graph of force vs. stretch is a straight

line through the origin. The equation of this line is F = - k x.

For any ideal spring k is a constant number which, when

multiplied by the stretch, then by -1 (because the direction of

the tension is opposite that of the stretch), gives us the

tension force.

A negative value of x corresponds to compressing the spring

rather than stretching it. If a spring is compressed it 'pushes

back', exerting a force in the positive direction. For an ideal

spring the equation F = - k x continues to apply, since a

negative value of x will appropriately result in a positive value

of F.

The constant number k is called the spring constant.

At position x the potential energy of the spring is 1/2 k x^2:

When stretched/compressed x units from the equilibrium length,

for the reasons indicated in the given solution, the average

force required is 1/2 k x and the displacement from equilibrium

is x so the work done is 1/2 k x * x = 1/2 k x^2.

The force exerted by an ideal spring is conservative, so between

equilibrium and position x the PE of the spring increases by

amount 1/2 k x^2.

Taking the PE of the spring to be 0 when x = 0, it follows that

at position x its PE is 1/2 k x^2:

PE_spring = 1/2 k x^2.

In the current example the spring constant is k = 440 Newtons /

meter, and we want to find the stretch needed to give us PE of 25

Joules.

We therefore solve the equation

PE = 1/2 k x^2

for x, obtaining

x = +- sqrt( 2 PE / k),

and substitute our given values of k and PE to get the result.

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Question: `qgen phy text problem 6.19 88 g arrow 78 cm ave

force 110 N, speed?

What did you get for the speed of the arrow?

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Your solution:

W = F * x

W = 110 N * 0.78 m

W = 85.8 J

KE = 0.5 * m * v^2

85.5 = 0.5 * 0.088 * v^2

v = 44.1 m/sec

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Given Solution:

`a** 110 N acting through 78 cm = .78 m does work `dW = 110 N *

.78 m = 86 Joules appxo..

If all this energy goes into the KE of the arrow then we have a

mass of .088 kg with 86 Joules of KE. We can solve

.5 m v^2 = KE for v, obtaining

| v | = sqrt( 2 * KE / m) = sqrt(2 * 86 Joules / (.088 kg) ) =

sqrt( 2000 kg m^2 / s^2 * 1 / kg) = sqrt(2000 m^2 / s^2) = 44

m/s, approx.. **

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Question: `qquery univ phy 6.84 (6.74 10th edition) bow full

draw .75 m, force from 0 to 200 N to 70 N approx., mostly concave

down.

What will be the speed of the .0250 kg arrow as it leaves the

bow?

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Your solution:

Fnet = 200 N - 70 N

Fnet = 130 N

W = F * x

W = 130 N * 0.75 m

w = 97.5 J

KE = 0.5 * m * v^2

97.5 J = 0.5 * 0.025 kg * v^2

v = 88.32 m/sec

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Given Solution:

`a** The work done to pull the bow back is represented by the

area beneath the force vs. displacement curve. The curve could

be approximated by a piecewise straight line from about 0 to 200

N then back to 70 N. The area beneath this graph would be about

90 N m or 90 Joules. The curve itself probably encloses a bit

more area than the straight line, so let's estimate 100 Joules

(that's probably a little high, but it's a nice round number).

If all the energy put into the pullback goes into the arrow then

we have a .0250 kg mass with kinetic energy 100 Joules.

Solving KE = .5 m v^2 for v we get v = sqrt(2 KE / m) = sqrt( 2 *

100 Joules / ( .025 kg) ) = sqrt(8000 m^2 / s^2) = 89 m/s,

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Question: `qUniv. 6.90 (6.78 10th edition) requires 10-25 watts

/ kg to fly; 70 g hummingbird 10 flaps/sec, work/wingbeat. Human

mass 70 kg, 1.4 kW short period, sustain 500 watts. Fly by

flapping?

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Your solution:

Bird

70g = 0.07 kg

10 W * 0.07 kg = 0.7 J

0.7 J/ (10 flaps/sec)

= 0.07 J / flap

25 W * 0.07 = 1.75 J

1.75 J / (10 flaps/sec)

= 0.175 J / flap

Human

10 W * 70 kg = 700 J

700 J / (10 flaps/sec)

= 70 J / flap

25 W * 70 kg = 1750 J

1750 J / (10 flaps/sec)

= 175 J/flap

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Given Solution:

`a** A 70 gram = .070 kg hummingbird would require between .070

kg * 10 watts / kg = .7 watts = .7 Joules / second in order to

fly.

At 10 flaps / second that would be .07 Joules per wingbeat.

A similar calculation for the 25 watt level shows that .175

Joules would be required per wingbeat.

A 70 kg human being would similarly require 700 watts at 10 watts

/ kg, which would be feasible for short periods (possibly for

several minutes) but not for a sustained flight. At the 25

watt/kg level flight would not be feasible. **

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