Query 27

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course Phy 231

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along with a statement of what you do or do not understand about

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Question: `qQuery intro probs set 7, 1-7

Knowing the 9.8 m/s^2 gravitational field strength of the Earth's

field at the surface of the Earth, and knowing the radius of the

Earth, how do we find the gravitational field strength at a given

distance 'above' the surface of the Earth?

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Your solution:

gravity * (radius of earth / given distance)^2

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Given Solution:

`a** You have an inverse square force. Square the ratio of Earth

radius to orbital radius and multiply by 9.8 m/s^2:

Field strength=(Re/r)^2*9.8m/s^2 **

STUDENT COMMENT

I used G M_earth / r^2. Wonder if they get the same result.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

For r > Re, the expressions G M_earth / r^2 and (Re/r)^2*9.8m/s^2

give the same results, to the number of significant figures

dictated by the known quantities.

The first formula is inherently more accurate, because the radius

of the Earth is not the same at the poles as at the equator, with

the result that Re is not known as precisely as G and the mass of

the Earth.

STUDENT QUESTION:

???? I don't think I understand the answer. Is mine correct?

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INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

Your method is completely equivalent to this one, though you

didn't actually show the expressions you would get:

a_grav = k / r^2, and a_grav = g =9.8 m/s^2 when R = R_e, the

radius of the Earth.

Thus

9.8 m/s^2 = k / R_e^2 and

k = 9.8 m/s^2 * R_e^2.

The proportionality becomes

a_grav = 9.8 m/s^2 * R_e^2 / r^2 = 9.8 m/s^2 * (R_e / r)^2.

Any proportionality of the form

y = k x^p

implies that if y1 = k x1^p and y2 = k x2^p, we have

y2 / y1 = k x1^p / (k x2^p) = (x1 / x2)^p.

In the current case p = -2, the y quantity would be the

acceleration of gravity and the x quantity would be the distance

from the center of the Earth. Using y1 = g and x1 = R_e, with y2

= a_grav and x2 = r, we have

a_grav / g = (r / R_e)^(-2) so that

a_grav = g * (R_e / r)^2.

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Question: `qIf we double our distance from the center of the

Earth, what happens to the gravitational field strength we

experience?

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Your solution:

F = 1/r^2

It is 1/4.

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Given Solution:

`a** We have an inverse square force so if r2 = 2 * r1 the ratio

of the gravitational field will be

g2 / g1 = (1 / r2^2) / (1 / r1^2) = r1^2 / r2^2 = (r1 / r2)^2 =

(r1 / (2 * r1))^2 = r1^2 / 4 r1^2 = 1/4.

In a nutshell double the radius gives us 1 / 2^2 = 1/4 the

gravitational field. **

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Question: `qHow do we approximate the energy required to move a

given mass from the surface of the Earth to a given height

'above' the Earth, where the field strength at the given height

differ significantly from that at the surface?

STUDENT QUESTION (applicable to University Physics Students;

others may ignore):

I'm not quite sure how this would be found. Looking at the given

solution, it looks like you could integrate the function F =

G*m1*m2 / r^2 over the period from r1 to r2 with respect to r.

What this would do would give you the area under the

curve for a graph of F vs r (distance). That means the area would

be f*d. We know that work = f*d, and we know that

total work = KE. So integrating will give you the energy.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

That's a very good synopsis. That would give you an exact result.

The present problem asks for an approximation.

For your course, the integral results when you partition the

interval between r1 and r2, approximating the work on each

interval of the partition. When you let the number of intervals

approach infinity, the approximation errors approach zero and the

resulting integral gives you the exact work.

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Your solution:

I would most likely integrate as in the solution.

m g * (RE / r)^2 from r = RE to rMax.

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Given Solution:

`a STUDENT SOLUTION AND INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

mass*[(Re + distance)/Re]^2=force

Force*distance=KE

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The first approximation would be to average the force at the

surface and the force at the maximum altitude, then multiply by

the distance. The result would give you the work necessary to

'raise' the object against a conservative force, which would be

equal to the change in PE.

ADDENDUM FOR UNIVERSITY PHYSICS STUDENTS ONLY:The exact work is

obtained by integrating the force with respect to position. You

can integrate either G M m / r^2 or m g * (RE / r)^2 from r = RE

to rMax.

Integrating G M m / r^2 from r = r1 to r = r2 you get G M m / r1

- G M m / r2, which is the change between r = r1 and r = r2 of

the potential energy function -G M m / r (note that this function

is an antiderivative with respect to r of G M m / r^2).**

STUDENT COMMENT

OK. `dPE = F_net * `ds

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

PE = F_cons_BY * `ds, where F_cons_BY is the force exerted BY the

system against conservative forces.

There could be nonconservative forces present; they would have no

effect on the PE change but would have to be included in F_net,

so F_net * `ds wouldn't be correct.

STUDENT COMMENT:

im not sure i understand this answer I know I need to find KE and

then the different PE from the min and max altitudes

but I dont know if my equation represents the same one shown here

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

No KE difference is assumed. We are looking only at the work

required to 'lift' the object without speeding it up.

Energy is required because, in order to 'lift' a mass, a force is

required to counter the gravitational pull of the Earth. If we

can find the average force required, we need only multiply by the

distance. This only gives an approximation (see more about this

below). The work done against gravity is done against a

conservative force, and is therefore equal to the change in

gravitational PE.

You can't use the book's m g y formula because in this case the

acceleration of gravity changes significantly from the initial

point to the final point.

The work required is equal to the area beneath the graph of F vs.

r. The graph is decreasing at a decreasing rate (i.e., decreasing

and concave up), and is asymptotic to the positive r axis.

See the Introductory Problem Sets for worked problems of this

nature. The approach used there is to approximate the force at

the two distances from the center of the Earth, average the two

and use this as an approximation to the average force. This

approximation is accurate only to the extent that the slope of

the F vs. r graph is constant.

For a given mass m we have

F = m * (r_earth / r)^2 * 9.8 m/s^2; simce m * 9.8 m/s^2 is the

weight at the surface of the earth we could write this as

F = weight_surface * (r_earth / r)^2, where weight_surface is the

weight of the mass at the surface of the Earth..

Either way, this expression gives the force at distance r from

the center of the Earth.

So you would plug in the initial distance from the center of the

Earth, and the final distance, obtaining two values for the

force. Averaging these two values you would have an approximate

value for the average force, which would then be multiplied by

the distance to get the approximate work.

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Question: `qQuery class notes #24

Describe the paths of various particles 'shot' parallel to the

surface of the Earth from the top of a very high tower, starting

with a very small velocity and gradually increasing to a velocity

sufficient to completely escape the gravitational field of the

Earth.

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Your solution:

They would at first fall with an arc toward the surface then as

the velocity increases they would eventually continue until they

were able to circle the earth without touching it.

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Given Solution:

`aGOOD STUDENT ANSWER:

Each particle sets out to follow an orbit around the center of

mass of the earth. But for particles shot at slower speeds, this

path is interupted by the surface of the eath and simply stops

there. The faster it is shot, the further x distance becomes

before the particle lands. However, if it given a great enough

velocity, it will fall around the curviture of the earth. If is

shot even faster than that, it will follow an eliptical oribit

with varying speeds and distances from center of earth.

GOOD STUDENT ANSWER:

With a very low velocity the projectile will not traveled as far.

It will fall to earth in a nearly parabolic fashion since it

gains vertical velocity as it travels horizontally at a steady

pace.

If the projectile is fired at a very strong velocity it will

leave the earths vacinity but will still be pulled by the forces

acting on it from the earths center. This will cause it to go

only so far at which point it has slowed down considerabley,

since it has lost most of its kinetic energy. It turns and begins

to gain energy as it approaches the earths area, using the

potential energy it gained on the trip out. (Causing it to speed

up). The path that this projectile will take will be eliptical,

and it will continue to loop around the earth.

If the projectile is fired at the correct velocity to form a

circular orbit, it will also fall at a parabolic fashion,

although the earth's surface will also be descending at the same

rate so that the object will appear to be 'not falling'. It is

falling but at the same rate the earth is 'falling' under it. It

will circle the earth until something causes it to stop.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

The path of the projectile will always be an ellipse with the

center of the Earth at one focus. For low velocities and low

altitude this path is very nearly parabolic before being

interrupted by the surface of the Earth.

One of these ellipses is a perfect circle and gives us the

circular orbit we use frequently in this section. **

STUDENT COMMENT:

I thought this object left the earths force...if not i understand

it will fall back to earth as a normal projectile because of a

small velocity and have a parabolic path because gravity will

take over

The gravitational field of the Earth extends forever, but as

distance from the Earth increases the strength of the field

decreases as 1 / r^2. For example at the distance of the Moon the

earth's field is only about 1/3600 times as great as at the

surface of the Earth. This is still plenty to hold the Moon in

its orbit about the Earth. The Earth's gravitational field also

affects the orbits of other planets, even though only one planet

ever gets close enough to experience a field which is even

one-millionth as great as the field we feel at the surface of the

Earth (the other planets are affected chiefly by the

gravitational field of the Sun).

The further a projectile or a satellite gets from the Earth, the

less gravitational force it experiences, and if it's moving fast

enough it will keep going and never come back; but all the while

it will experience some force from the Earth, just not enough to

ever stop it.

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Question: `qHow many of the velocities in the preceding question

would result in a perfectly circular orbit about the Earth?

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Your solution:

Only the one whos accel is the same as the gravitational accel.

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Given Solution:

`a** For a given distance from the center of the Earth, there is

only one velocity for which centripetal acceleration is equal to

gravitational acceleration, so there is only one possible

velocity for a circular orbit of given orbital radius. The

orbital radius is determined by the height of the 'tower', so for

a given tower there is only one velocity which will achieve a

circular orbit. **

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Question: `qIs it necessary in order to achieve a circular orbit

to start the object out in a direction parallel to the surface of

the Earth?

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Your solution:

Yes.

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Given Solution:

`a** If you have just one 'shot' then you must start out parallel

to the surface of the Earth. The reason is that any circle about

the center must be perpendicular at every point to a radial

line--a line drawn from the center to the circle. Any radial line

will intercept the surface of the Earth and must be perpendicular

to it, and the circular orbit must also be perpendicular to this

line. Therefore the orbit and the surface are perpendicular to

the same line and are therefore parallel. **

STUDENT COMMENT: im now seeing the idea of a launch paralell to

earth. the tower needs to be pretty tall then.

the velocity needs to be headed in the direction of the orbit it

will take.

INSTRUCTOR REPSONSE: The main reason it has to be very tall is

because of the atmosphere. If you shoot the projectile with

sufficient speed while it's in the atmosphere, it will quickly

lose most of its kinetic energy to air resistance; the energy

goes mostly into heating the object, which as a result proceeds

to melt as its orbit decays. Whether it melts before hitting the

ground or not depends on how quickly the orbit decays and how

high it was in the first place.

If there was no atmosphere, you still would need to be careful

about the flattening of the Earth at the equator (the radius at

the equator is about 20 km greater than the radius at the poles,

which means that if you wanted an orbit that took you over the

equator, then even in the absence of atmosphere a tower at the

pole would have to be at least 20 km high.

STUDENT QUESTION

When a rocket is launched why is it pointed straight up, isnt

this perpendicular to the earth surface, would it be more

effective to have it pointed at an angle to be shot parallel with

the orbit and the surface of the earth?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

Excellent question.

You want to get out of the atmosphere as quickly as possible, to

minimize the work you need to do against air resistance.

A vertical launch position is much more stable than one at an

angle away from vertical. Same reason we build towers vertical

rather than leaning.

The launch starts out vertical, and gradually curves toward the

tangential direction.

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Question: `qPrinciples of Physics and General College Physics

Problem 5.2: A jet traveling at 525 m/s moves in an arc of radius

6.00 km. What is the acceleration of the jet?

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Your solution:

a_c = (v^2)/r

a_c = (525 m/sec)^2 / 6,000 m

a_c = 45.94 m/sec^2

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Given Solution:

`aThe jet will have centripetal acceleration a_cent = v^2 / r,

where v is its speed and r the radius of the circle on which it

is traveling. In this case we have v = 525 m/s and r = 6.00 km =

6000 meters.

The centripetal acceleration is therefore

a_cent = v^2 / r = (525 m/s)^2 / (6000 m) = 45 m/s^2, approx..

One 'g' is 9.8 m/s^2, so this is about (45 m/s^2) / (9.8 m/s^2) =

4.6 'g's'.

STUDENT QUESTION:

there are roughly 1600m in a mile I believe, so 45m/s would be

2700m a minute and 162,000m/hr. so that would be roughly

100mi/hour, am I making a math error here or is that speed really

4.6g’s???

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: That speed would be about 100 mph. However

100 mph is not an acceleration, but as you say, a speed.

g's measure acceleration, not speed.

Nothing here is moving at 45 m/s.

There is a centripetal acceleration of 45 m/s^2. One 'g' is 9.8

m/s^2. So 45 m/s^2 is somewhat more than 4 'g's'. It is in fact

4.6 g's.

STUDENT QUESTION

What does g stand for?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

g stands for the acceleration of gravity. One 'g' is 9.8 m/s^2.

Two 'g's' would be 19.6 m/s^2. etc.

At 10 g's you pass out; if you continue this acceleration for

more than a couple of minutes you die.

A fighter jet in a turn can withstand 10 g's; the pilot can't.

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Question: `qUniv. Why is it that the center of mass doesn't move?

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Your solution:

No Fnet acting on it.

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Given Solution:

`a** There is no net force on the system as a whole so its center

of mass can't accelerate. From the frame of reference of the

system, then, the center of mass remains stationary. **

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