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Your solution, attempt at solution:

If you are unable to attempt a solution, give a phrase-by-phrase interpretation of the problem along

with a statement of what you do or do not understand about it. This response should be given, based on

the work you did in completing the assignment, before you look at the given solution.

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Question: Query set 5 problems 16-20

explain how we calculate the average force exerted by a particle of mass m moving at speed v which

collides at a time interval `dt elastically and at a right angle with a solid wall

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Your Solution:

We first find the change in velocity, 'dv = -2v. We then determine the momentum change by 'dv*m.

Average force is momentum_change/time, therefore, F_ave = -2mv/'dt

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Given Solution:

** The impulse exerted on a particle in a collision is the change in the momentum of that particle

during a collision.

The impulse-momentum theorem says that the change in momentum in a collision is equal to the impulse,

the average force * the time interval between collisions.

The average force is thus change in momentum / time interval; the time interval is the round-trip

distance divided by the velocity, or 2L / v so the average force is -2 m v / ( 2L / v) = m v^2 / L

If there were N such particles the total average force would be N * m v^2 / L

If the directions are random we distribute the force equally over the 3 dimensions of space and for one

direction we get get 1/3 the force found above, or 1/3 N * m v^2 / L.

This 3-way distribution of force is related to the fact that for the average velocity vector we have

v^2 = vx^2 + vy^2 + vz^2, where v is average magnitude of velocity and vx, vy and vz the x, y and z

components of the velocity (more specifically the rms averages--the square root of the average of the

squared components). **

STUDENT QUESTION

I'm not sure why you multiply the velocity by 2. I understand multiplying the distance by 2 to make the

round trip.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The given solution doesn't multiply the velocity by 2. The solution does, however, involve change in

momentum and that results in a factor of 2.

The momentum changes from + m v to - m v when the particle bounces off the wall. The change in momentum

is

change in momentum = final momentum - initial momentum = -mv - mv = - 2 mv.

The 2 in -2 m v results from a subtraction, not a doubling.

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Question: Summarize the relationship between the thermal energy that goes into the system during a

cycle, the work done by the system during a cycle, and the thermal energy removed or dissipated during

the cycle.

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Your Solution:

'dU = 'dQ - 'dW

Thermal energy is equal to the heat added to the system minus the work done by the system.

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Given Solution:

** Work-energy is conserved within an isolated system. So the thermal energy that goes into the

system must equal the total of the work done by the system and the thermal energy removed from the

system. What goes in must come out, either in the form of work or thermal energy. **

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Question: If you know the work done by a thermodynamic system during a cycle and the thermal energy

removed or dissipated during the cycle, how would you calculate the efficiency of the cycle?

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Your Solution:

Efficiency is Work/thermal energy. e = W/Q = (Heat in - Heat out)/ Heat in

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Given Solution:

** STUDENT SOLUTION: Efficiency is work done / energy input. Add the amount thermal energy removed to

the amount of work done to get the input. Then, divide work by the energy input. **

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Question: prin phy and gen phy problem 15.2, cylinder with light frictionless piston atm pressure,

1400 kcal added, volume increases slowly from 12.0 m^3 to 18.2 m^3. Find work and change in internal

energy.

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Your Solution:

W=P*'dV = 1.013*10^5N/m^2 * (18.2-12.0)m^3

W= 628,060 J

1400kcal = 5860400J

'dU = Q - W = 5860400J - 628060J = 5.23*10^6 J

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Given Solution:

Work done at constant pressure is P `dV, so the work done in this situation is

`dW = P `dV = 1 atm * (18.2 m^3 - 12 m^3) = (101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2) * (6.2 m^3) = 630 * 10^3 N * m = 6.3 *

10^5 J.

A total of 1400 kcal = 1400 * 4200 J = 5.9 * 10^6 J of thermal energy is added to the system, the

change in internal energy is

`dU = `dQ - `dW = 5.9*10^6 J - 6.3 * 10^5 J = 5.9 * 10^6 J - .63 * 10^6 J = 5.3 * 10^6 J.

It is worth thinking about the P vs. V graph of this process. The pressure P remains constant at 101.3

* 10^3 J as the volume changes from 12 m^3 to 18.2 m^3, so the graph will be a straight line segment

from the point (12 m^3, 101.3 * 10^3 J) to the point (18.2 m^3, 101.3 * 10^3 J). This line segment is

horizontaland the region above the horizontal axis and beneath the segment is a rectangle whose width

is 6.2 * 10^3 m^3 and whose altitude is 101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2; its area is therefore the product of its

altitude and width, which is 6.3 * 10^5 N m, or 6.3 * 10^5 J, the same as the word we calculated above.

STUDENT COMMENT:

My answer was way off, but I see where I made my mistake. I didn’t convert the m^3 into

Joules. Is (101.3 x 10^3 N/m^2) the conversion factor for m^3 into Joules??

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

You calculated the right quantities, but you didn't use compatible units.

m^3 measures volume, Joules measure work\energy.

The units of your calculation 1atm * (18.2m^3 - 12.0 m^3) = 6.2 m^3 don't make sense. The units of this

calculation would be atm * m^3, not m^3.

It's hard to make sense of the unit atm * m^3, but 1 atm = 101.3 kPa or 101 300 Pa, which is 101 300 N

/ m^2.

Your calculation should therefore have been

1atm * (18.2m^3 - 12.0 m^3) = 101 300 N/m^2 * (18.2 m^3 - 12.0 m^3).

The units will come out N * m, which is Joules.

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Question: prin phy and gen phy problem 15.5, 1.0 L at 4.5 atm isothermally expanded until pressure

is 1 atm then compressed at const pressure to init volume, final heated to return to original volume.

Sketch and label graph.

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Your Solution:

My graph looks as follows:

Point A at (1.0L, 4.5atm) Smooth curve to Point B (4.5L,1atm).

From point B follow straight line to point C at (1, 1).

Then straight line from point C back to Point A.

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Given Solution:

When a confined ideal gas is expanded isothermally its pressure and volume change, while the number of

moled and the temperature remain constant. Since PV = n R T, it follows that P V remains constant.

In the initial state P = 4.5 atm and V = 1 liter, so P V = 4.5 atm * 1 liter = 4.5 atm * liter (this

could be expressed in standard units since 1 atm = 101.3 kPa = 101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2 and 1 liters = .001

m^3, but it's more convenient to first sketch and label the graph in units of atm and liters). During

the isothermal expansion, therefore, since P V remains constant we have

P V = 4.5 atm liters. At a pressure of 1 atm, therefore, the volume will be V = 4.5 atm liter / P =

4.5 atm liter / (1 atm) = 4.5 liters.

The graph follows a curved path from (1 liter, 4.5 atm) to (4.5 liters, 1 atm).

At the gas is compressed at constant pressure back to its initial 1 liter volume, the pressure remains

constant so the graph follows a horizontal line from (4.5liters, 1 atm) to (1 liter, 1 atm). Note that

this compression is accomplished by cooling the gas, or allowing it to cool.

Finally the gas is heated at constant volume until its pressure returns to 4.5 atm. The constant

volume dictates that the graph follow a vertical line from (1 liter, 1 atm) back to (4.5 liters, 1

atm).

The graph could easily be relabeled to usestandard metric units.

1 atm = 101.3 kPa = 101.3 * 10^3 Pa = 101.3 * 10^3 N/m^2, so

4.5 atm = 4.5 * 101.3 * 10^3 Pa = 4.6 * 10^3 Pa = 4.6 * 10^3 N/m^2.

1 liter = .001 m^3 so 4.5 liters = 4.5 m^3.

Since P V = 4.5 atm liters, P = 4.5 atm liters / V. This is of the form P = c / V, with c a constant.

For positive values of V, this curve descendsfrom a vertical asymptote with the vertical axis (the V

axis) through the point (1, c) then approaches a horizontal asymptote with the horizontal axis. For c

= 4.5 atm liters, the curve therefore passes through the point (1 liter, 4.5 atm). As we have seen it

also passes through (4.5 liters, 1 atm).

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Question:

Openstax: A system does 1.80×10^8 J of work while 7.50×10^8 J of heat transfer occurs to the

environment. What is the change in internal energy of the system assuming no other changes (such as in

temperature or by the addition of fuel)?

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Your Solution:

'dU = Q - W

'dU = -7.50x10^8J - 1.8x10^8J

'dU = -9.3x10^8J

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Given Solution:

If no energy goes into the system, then the work it does and the energy transferred to the environment

are both at the expense of its internal energy.

So the system experiences an internal energy change of

-1.80 * 10^8 J - 7.50 * 10^8 J = -9.30 * 10^8 J.

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Question:

Openstax: Steam to drive an old-fashioned steam locomotive is supplied at a constant gauge pressure of

1.75×10^6 N/m2 (about 250 psi) to a piston with a 0.200-m radius. (a) By calculating P?V , find the

work done by the steam when the piston moves 0.800 m. Note that this is the net work output, since

gauge pressure is used. (b) Now find the amount of work by calculating the force exerted times the

distance traveled. Is the answer the same as in part (a)?

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Your Solution:

A.)

'dV = .126m^2 * .800m = .101m^3

W = P'dV = 1.75x10^6N/m^2 * .101m^3 = 1.77x10^5 J

B.)

1.75x10^6 = 1,750,000Pa = 1,750kPa

1750kPa + 101kPa = 1851kPa of absolute pressure

F = P*A = 1.85x10^3N/m^2 * .126m^2 = 2.33x10^5N

W = F*d = 2.33x10^5N * .800m = 1.86x105J

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Given Solution:

The cross-sectional area of the piston is 0.20 meters and it moves 0.60 meters, so the change in the

volume of the cylinder is

`dV = 0.20 m^2 * 0.60 m = 0.12 m^3.

so, assuming no pressure loss as the piston recedes, the product P `dV is

P `dV = 1.75 * 10^6 Pa * 0.12 m^3 = 2 * 10^5 N/m^2 * m^3 = 2 * 10^5 N * m = 2 * 10^5 Joules.

The absolute pressure in the cylinder is equal to the gauge pressure plus atmospheric pressure, so

P_abs = 1.75 * 10^6 Pa + 1.0 * 10^5 Pa = 1.85 * 10^6 Pa. The force exerted by this pressure on the

piston is therefore

0.20 m^2 * 1.85 * 10^6 Pa = 3.7 * 10^5 Newtons.

Multiplying this force by the 0.60 meter change in the position of the piston we get

`dW = 3.7 * 10^5 N * 0.60 m = 2.2 * 10^5 Joules,

which is greater than the work calculated based on the gauge pressure.

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Question: Openstax: Calculate the net work output of a heat engine following path ABCDA in the

figure below.

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Your Solution:

W = area of enclosed shape

W = 1.6x10^6N/m^2 * 3.0x10^-3m^3 = 4800J

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Given Solution:

The work done by a thermodynamic cycle is equal to the work enclosed by that cycle on a P vs. V

diagram.

The path ABCDA is a parallogram with altitude 1.6 * 10^6 N/m^2 and base 3.0 * 10^-3 m^3, so it encloses

area

area = `dW = 1.6 * 10^6 N/m^2 * 3.0 * 10^-3 m^3 = 4.8 * 10^3 N * m = 4800 Joules.

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Question:

What is the net work output of a heat engine that follows path ABDA in the figure below, with a

straight line from B to D?

Why is the work output less than for path ABCDA?

Explicitly show how you follow the steps in the Problem-Solving Strategies for Thermodynamics.

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Your Solution:

W = area of triangle ABD

W = .5*1.6x10^6N/m^2 * 3.0x10^-3m^3 = 2400J

Work is less because we took half of the original shape, therefore, half of the area

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Given Solution:

The path ABDA is a triangle with base 1.6 * 10^6 N/m^2 and altitude 3.0 * 10^-3 m^3. The area of the

triangle is

area = `dW = 1/2 * 1.6 * 10^6 N/m^2 * 3.0 * 10^-3 m^3 = 2400 Joules.

Along the path BD negative work is done against the pressure, as is the case along path CD. However

the area beneath BD is greater than that beneath CD, so the negative work done in this case is greater

in magnitude than the negative work done along path ABCDA.

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Question: gen phy problem 15.12, a-c curved path `dW = -35 J, `dQ = -63 J; a-b-c `dW = - 48 J

gen phy how much thermal energy goes into the system along path a-b-c and why?

Your Solution:

'dU = Q - W

'dU = -63J + 35J = -28J

Since we are ending at same spot 'dU must be the same.

using 'dU we found

-28J = Q + 48J, solving for Q

Q = -76J

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Given Solution:

** I'll need to look at the graph in the text to give a reliably correct answer to this question.

However the gist of the argument goes something like this:

`dQ is the energy transferred to the system, `dW the work done by the system along the path. Along the

curved path the system does -35 J of work and -63 J of thermal energy is added--meaning that 35 J of

work are done on the system and the system loses 63 J of thermal energy.

If a system gains 35 J of energy by having work done on it while losing 63 J of thermal energy, its

internal energy goes down by 28 J (losing thermal energy take internal energy from the system, doing

work would take energy from the system so doing negative work adds energy to the system). So between a

and c along the curved path the system loses 28 J of internal energy.

In terms of the equation, `dU = `dQ - `dW = -63 J -(-35 J) = -28 J.

It follows that at point c, the internal energy of the system is 28 J less than at point a, and this

will be the case no matter what path is followed from a to c.

Along the path a-b-c we have -48 J of work done by the system, which means that the system tends to

gain 48 J in the process, while as just observed the internal energy goes down by 28 Joules. The

system therefore have `dQ = `dU + `dW = -28 J + (-48 J) = -76 J, and 76 J of internal energy must be

removed from the system.**

STUDENT COMMENT:

I don’t understand the transition from the first step in which we found the work of the system and the

energy not used and then the second part where you combine this thermal energy with the work done in

the second part

of the system. Why would you combine energy lost to work done?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

During a complete cycle, energy is put into the system. The cycle ends in the same energy state as it

began. So the energy put into the system has to go somewhere; it isn't retained by the system.

Some of this energy is converted to mechanical work. Whatever isn't converted to mechanical work has to

be removed from the system (for example, as exhaust).

STUDENT COMMENT

I really just guessed on this problem. I figured that if the problem gave me the info to

find ‘dU, I might as well find it. But I didn’t really think that the ‘dU for a-c would also serve as

the ‘dU for a-b-c.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The internal energy of a system is purely a function of its state. So when we go from state a to state

c, it doesn't matter how we get there, the change in internal energy is the same.

The amount of thermal energy required to take the system from one state to another varies with the

path, because different paths correspond to different amounts of work done on or by the system.

The amount of thermal energy required is equal to the change in the internal energy of the system, plus

the work done by the system:

`dQ = `dW + `dU.

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Question: gen phy How are the work done by the system, the thermal energy added to the system and

the change in the internal energy of the system related, and what is this relationship have to do with

conservation of energy?

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Your Solution:

The change in internal energy is equal to the difference of the thermal energy and work.

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Given Solution:

** If a system does work it tends to reduce internal energy, so `dW tends to decrease `dU. If thermal

energy is added to the system `dQ tends to increase `dU. This leads to the conclusion that `dU = `dQ -

`dW. Thus for example if `dW = -48 J and `dU = -28 J, `dQ = `dU + `dW = -28 J + -48 J = -76 J. **

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Question: gen phy How does the halving of pressure caused a halving of the magnitude of the work,

and why is the work positive instead of negative as it was in the process a-b-c?

Your Solution:

If we are looking at a P vs. V graph, Work is the area of the enclosed shape. If we take half of the

Pressure then we are taking half of the area, therefore, half the work.

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Given Solution:

** Work is the area under the pressure vs. volume curve. If you have half the pressure between two

volumes the graph has half the altitude, which leads to half the area.

The 'width' of a region is final volume - initial volume. If the direction of the process is such that

final volume is less than initial volume (i.e., going 'backwards', in the negative x direction) then

with 'width' is negative and the area is negative. **

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