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023. Forces (atwood, chains)

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Question: `q001. Note that this assignment contains 3 questions.

. A chain 200 cm long has a density of 15 g/cm. Part of the chain lies on a tabletop,

with which it has a coefficient of friction equal to .10. The other part of the chain

hangs over the edge of the tabletop.

If 50 cm of chain hang over the edge of the tabletop, what will be the acceleration of

the chain?

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Your solution:

The weight of the whole chain is 200 cm * 15 g/cm = 3000 g or 3 kg

The amount of the chain hanging over the edge of the table is 50 cm. 50 cm * 15 g/cm =

750 g or .75 kg.

F = m * a

F = .75 kg * 9.8 m/s^2

F = 7.35 N for the chain hanging over the edge of the table

For the frictional coefficient:

150 cm * 15 g/cm = 2250 g or 2.25 kg

Force for the 2.25 kg is 2.25 kg (9.8 m/s^2) = 22.05 N

.1 * 22.05 N = 2.205 Newtons of force due to friction on the table

Net force = 7.35 N - 2.205 N = 5.145 N

a = F/m

a = 5.145 N / 3 kg

a = 1.715 m/s^2

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Given Solution:

The part of the chain hanging over the edge of the table will experience an unbalanced

force from gravity and will therefore tend to accelerate chain in the direction of the

hanging portion. The remainder of the chain will also experience the gravitational

force, but this force will be countered by the upward force exerted on the chain by the

table. The force between the chain and the table will give rise to a frictional force

which will resist motion toward the hanging portion of the chain.

If 50 cm of chain hang over the edge of the tabletop, then we have 50 cm * (15 g/cm) =

750 grams = .75 kg of chain hanging over the edge. Gravity will exert a force of 9.8

meters/second ^ 2 * .75 kg = 7.3 Newtons of force on this mass, and this force will tend

to accelerate the chain.

The remaining 150 cm of chain lie on the tabletop. This portion of the chain has a

mass which is easily shown to be 2.25 kg, so gravity exerts a force of approximately 21

Newtons on this portion of the chain. The tabletop pushes backup with a 21 Newton

force, and this force between tabletop and chain results in a frictional force of .10 *

21 Newtons = 2.1 Newtons.

We thus have the 7.3 Newton gravitational force on the hanging portion of the chain,

resisted by the 2.1 Newton force of friction to give is a net force of 5.2 Newtons.

Since the chain has a total mass of 3 kg, this net force results in an acceleration of

5.2 N / (3 kg) = 1.7 meters/second ^ 2, approximately.

STUDENT COMMENT: need to think of friction as a component with the force of table on

chain , not chain on table even though these are the

same.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: The frictional force arises from the mutual opposing normal forces

exerted between chain and tabletop.

STUDENT COMMENT: also, the normal force is not according to the total mass, just the

part on the table. i would havethought that the connected part of teh chain would

contribute to force. but it doesnt

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: The normal force acts only between the tabletop and the mass of

the chain supported by the tabletop. The normal force itself is balanced by the

gravitational force on this segment of chain. So the combined normal and gravitational

force on the chain on the table contributes nothing to the net force.

However the normal force does given rise to a frictional force. This frictional force is

not balanced, in the way the normal force is balanced by the gravitational force, by any

other force and in this sense the frictional force contributes to the net force. (The

weight of the hanging part of the chain also contributes).

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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Self-critique rating: 3

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Question: `q002. What is the maximum length of chain that can hang over the edge

before the chain begins accelerating?

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Your solution:

I tried to figure out how to split it up. I came up with x + x + .1x = 2.1x

This is splitting the total force into 3 pieces two halves and a frictional piece.

The total force is 3 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 29.4 N

29.4 N / 2.1 = 14 N

I started with a 14 N piece.

m = F/a

m = 14 N / 9.8 m/s^2

m = 1.428 kg or 1428 g

dividing this by 15 g/cm, I got 95 cm.

95 cm is on the table, being pushed by 1.4 N of friction

105 cm is hanging off the table.

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Given Solution:

The maximum length that can hang over is the length for which the frictional force

opposing motion is precisely equal to the gravitational force on the hanging portion of

the chain.

If x stands for the length in cm of the portion of chain hanging over the edge of the

table, then the mass of the length is x * .015 kg / cm and it experiences a

gravitational force of (x * .015 kg / cm) * 9.8 m/s^2 = x * .147 N / cm.

The portion of chain remaining on the tabletop is 200 cm - x. The mass of this portion

is (200 cm - x) * .015 kg / cm and gravity exerts a force of (200 cm - x) * .015 kg / cm

* 9.8 meters/second ^ 2 = .147 N / cm * (200 cm - x) on this portion. This will result

in a frictional force of .10 * .147 N / cm * (200 cm - x) = .0147 N / cm * (200 cm - x).

Since the maximum length that can hang over is the length for which the frictional

force opposing motion is precisely equal to the gravitational force on the hanging

portion of the chain, we set the to forces equal and solve for x. Our equation is

.0147 N / cm * (200 cm - x) = .147 N/cm * x. Dividing both sides by .0147 N/cm we

obtain

200 cm - x = 10 * x. Adding x to both sides we obtain

200 cm = 11 x so that

x = 200 cm / 11 = 18 cm, approx..

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Self-critique (if necessary):

This was the approach I was looking for but never figured out. I tried to see how to isolate the friction vs. gravity component unsuccessfully. I can see why I didn't get it. It's very confusing, but I do understand the concepts.

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Question: `q003. The air resistance encountered by a certain falling object of mass 5

kg is given in Newtons by the formula F = .125 v^2, where the force F is in Newtons

when the velocity v is in meters/second. As the object falls its velocity increases,

and keeps increasing as it approaches its terminal velocity at which the net force on

the falling object is zero, which by Newton's Second Law results in zero acceleration

and hence in constant velocity. What is the terminal velocity of this object?

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Your solution:

F = m * a

F = 5 kg * 9.8 m/s^2

F = 49 N

49 N = .125 v^2

v^2 = 392 m^2/s^2

v = 19.8 m/s

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Given Solution:

Only two forces act on this object, the downward force exerted on it by gravity and the

upward force exerted by air resistance. The downward force exerted by gravity remains

constant at 5 kg * 9.8 meters/second ^ 2 = 49 Newtons. When this force is equal to the

.125 v^2 Newton force of friction the object will be at terminal velocity.

Setting .125 v^2 Newtons = 49 Newtons, we divide both sides by .125 Newtons to obtain

v^2 = 49 Newtons/(.125 Newtons) = 392. Taking square roots we obtain

v = `sqrt (392) = 19.8, which represents 19.8 meters/second.

STUDENT COMMENT: It would take a lot of air resistance to stop a falling 5kg object. a

big fan/jet

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: It would take 5 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 49 N of force to balance the

gravitational force and cause the falling object to stop accelerating. However once the

49 N air resistance was achieved, the object would continue falling at whatever constant

velocity was required to achieve this force.

To stop it from falling would take a force in excess of 49 N. The greater the resisting

force the more quickly the object would come to rest. To bring it to rest would indeed

require an updraft of some sort.

The necessary speed depends on the surface area of the object. For example a parachute,

which is spread over a relatively large area, might well have a mass of 5 kg, and very

little velocity would be required to produce an air resistance of 49 N. On the other

hand a 5 kg iron cannonball has a small surface area and would have to be moving very

fast to encounter 49 N of air resistance.

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Self-critique (if necessary): OK

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