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Question: `qQuery modeling simple harmonic motion with a reference circle.

In what sense can we say that the motion of a pendulum is modeled by the motion of a

point moving at constant velocity around a reference circle? Be specific.

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Your solution:

In the simulation, it was possible to time a point moving around a circle to match the

extreme points on the edges of the circle at the same time as the pendulum swung and

""hit"" them.

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`aGOOD STUDENT ANSWER:

A point moving around a circle can be represented by two perpendicular lines whose

intersection is that point of constant velocity. The vertical line then is one that

moves back and forth, which can be synchronized to the oscillation of the pendulum.

The figure below depicts the reference circle. The vector from the origin to the circle

is called the radial vector. The tip of this vector is on the circle, as is called the

reference point. A vertical line through the reference point extends down to the x

axis, and a horizontal line through the reference point extends over to the y axis. The

points where these lines meet the axes are the x and y coordinates of the reference

point.

As the reference point and the radial vector move around the circle, the x and y

coordinates change. If the reference point is moving counterclockwise around the

circle, then starting from the position shown in the figure, the x coordinate will

decrease. We imagine an object which moves in such a way that its x coordinate

coincides with that of the reference point; in this sense the object 'tracks' the

reference point as the object moves along the x axis.

When the reference point reaches the y axis its x coordinate will be zero.

When the reference point reaches the negative x axis the x coordinate will be at its

extreme value, i.e., a point as far from the origin as possible for a point moving

around this circle.

As the reference point continues moving around the circle an object tracking its x

coordinate begins to move to the right, slowly at first them more and more quickly as it

approaches the origin.

The x coordinate is again 0 when the reference point reaches the negative y axis. At

that point the object has its maximum speed.

As the reference point approaches the positive x axis the x coordinate changes more and

more slowly, reaching an extreme point when the reference point reaches the positive x

axis.

Thus as the reference point continues to move around the circle, the object will

continue to oscillate back and forth along the x axis.

An object which moves in this manner is said to be undergoing simple harmonic motion.

A simple pendulum, oscillating freely with an amplitude much less than its length, is

modeled in this manner by a reference circle whose radius is equal to its amplitude of

motion.

The time required for one complete trip around the reference circle corresponds to the

period of the pendulum (i.e., to the time required for one complete oscillation of the

pendulum).

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Question: At what point(s) in the motion a pendulum is(are) its velocity 0?

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Your solution:

The points when the velocity is at zero when the pendulum changes direction.

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Given Solution:

GOOD STUDENT ANSWER:

The pendulum has two points of v= 0. One at each end as it briefly comes to a stop to

begin swinging in the opposite direction.

PARTIALLY CORRECT STUDENT ANSWER: equilibrium, and at each extreme points of the

oscillation, because the pendulum briefly stops at these points

INSTRUCTOR COMMENT: If a pendulum is not swinging, then its velocity at the equilibrium

position is zero.

However if, as in the present case, it is swinging, then its passes thru the equilibrium

position with a nonzero velocity.

Furthermore its velocity as it passes through equilibrium is the maximum velocity it

attains during its motion.

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Question: At what point(s) in the motion of a pendulum is(are) its speed a maximum?

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Your solution:

The speed should be at its maximum when it is at the bottom of the swing. It starts to

slow down to zero as it heads toward its extreme points and then picks up speed as it

goes toward the equilibrium position (where it would like to rest, but isn't resting

yet).

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The pendulum swings from one extreme point to the other, then back, repeating this

motion again and again.

Halfway between the extreme points is the equilibrium point, the point at which the

pendulum would naturally hang if it wasn't moving.

It is at this halfway point that the pendulum reaches its maximum velocity.

As we will see, it is at the equilibrium position, and only at the equilibrium position,

where the velocity of the pendulum is equal to the velocity of the point on the

reference circle.

This could be reasoned out from energy considerations. The equilibrium position is the

position at which the pendulum's mass is lowest, and so it the point at which its

gravitational potential energy is lowest. Assuming that no nonconservative forces act

on the pendulum, this is the point at which its kinetic energy is therefore highest.

GOOD STUDENT ANSWER:

The mid point velocity of the pendulum represents its greatest speed since it begins at

a point of zero and accelerates by gravity downward to equilibrium, where it then works

against gravity to finish the oscillation.

GOOD STUDENT DESCRIPTION OF THE FEELING: At the top of flight, the pendulum 'stops' then

starts back the other way. I remember that I used to love swinging at the park, and

those large, long swings gave me such a wonderful feeling at those points where I seemed

to stop mid-air and pause a fraction of a moment. Then there was that glorious fall

back to earth. Too bad it makes me sick now. That was how I used to forget all my

troubles--go for a swing.

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STUDENT QUESTION

I thought that the equilibrium point was where the velocity was at zero??? Is this also

where the pendulum reaches its

maximum velocity??? I figured that it would be gaining the most speed as it went from a

zero velocity and was released-

maybe when it leaves the amplitude point?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The equilibrium point is the point at which the pendulum naturally hangs while

stationary.

When it's moving, the equilibrium point is still the point at which the pendulum would

naturally hang if it was stationary. For a moving pendulum that point coincides with

the 'low point' of its arc.

I refer to the points where velocity is for an instant zero as the 'extreme points' of

its motion. At these points its distance from the equilibrium position is equal to its

amplitude.

The pendulum does speed up most quickly when it begins its swing back from its

equilibrium point.

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Question:

`qHow does the maximum speed of the pendulum compare with the speed of the point on the

reference circle?

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Your solution:

The point on the reference circle goes around the circumference of the circle and

overlaps with the pendulum at two opposite points on the edge of the circle. The point

on the circle goes around at a steady velocity. The pendulum kind of takes a short cut

across the circle as it goes back and forth. It slows down and speeds up as it moves

from side to side. That being said, since the pendulum is swinging from one extreme

side of the circle to the other and hitting those points at the same time as the point

on the circle, they must have the same average velocity, even though it looks like the

point is speeding around and the pendulum is casually swinging from side to side.

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Given Solution:

`a** At the equilibrium point the pendulum is moving in the same direction and with the

same speed as the point on the reference circle. At any other point it is moving more

slowly.

University Physics Note:

You can find the average speed by integrating the speed function, which is the absolute

value of the velocity function, over a period and then dividing by the period (recall

from calculus that the average value of a function over an interval is the integral

divided by the length of the interval).

You find rms speed by finding the average value of the squared velocity and taking the

square root (this is the meaning of rms, or root-mean-square). **

STUDENT QUESTION: what about at any point other than equilibrium, will the speed hold

the same as for a circle where speed closest to the reference point is slower than at

the radius

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: The point on the reference circle has constant speed. Unless the

reference point is moving in the same direction as the pendulum, the part of its speed

in the direction of the pendulum's motion is less than its speed on the reference

circle.

Thus, at only two points on the reference circle is the speed of the pendulum as great

at the speed of the reference point. Those points coincide with the equilibrium position

of the pendulum (i.e., at the equilibrium position the motion of the reference-circle

point is in the same direction as that of the pendulum).

The figure below depicts the reference circle along with the radial vector r , the

vector from the center of the circle to the reference point. This particular vector

corresponds to an angular position of about 35 degrees.

The next figure depicts as well the velocity vector v for the reference point, assuming

that the reference point is moving in the counterclockwise direction. The velocity of

the reference point is tangent to the circle, and hence perpendicular to the radial

vector.

The final figure adds the centripetal acceleration vector a , which points back along

the radial vector toward the origin. In the figure the acceleration vector is slightly

offset from the radial vector, to make it clearly visible. In reality this vector would

lie right over the radial vector.

If this figure models the motion of an object oscillating back and forth along the x

axis, then the velocity of the object corresponds to the x component of v. It is clear

that in this picture the x component of v is of lesser magnitude than v. That is, the

object is moving more slowly than the reference point.

If the radial vector was horizontal, then the velocity v of the reference point would be

vertical and its x component would be zero. The object would at that instant be

stationary.

If the radial vector was vertical, then the velocity v of the reference point would be

horizontal, and its x component would be of the same magnitude as v. The object would

be moving at the same speed as the reference point and this would be its maximum speed.

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Question: `qHow can we determine the centripetal acceleration of the point on the

reference circle?

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Your solution:

You would need to know the radius of the circle. Using this, you could find the

circumference of the circle. You would have to time how long it took the point to get

all the way around the circle one time. With these two pieces of information, you could

calculate the velocity of the point. Then you would square the velocity and divide by

the radius to get the centripetal acceleration.

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Given Solution:

`a** Centripetal acceleration is v^2 / r. Find the velocity of a point on the reference

circle (velocity = angular velocity * radius).

The acceleration of the actual pendulum (which we assume moves along the x axis) is the

x component of the centripetal acceleration of the reference point.

When the pendulum is at one of its extreme positions, the reference circle is on the x

axis and the centripetal acceleration vector points back along the x axis toward the

origin, so at this point the acceleration of the pendulum is equal to the centripetal

acceleration of the reference point.

When the pendulum is at its equilibrium position the reference point lies directly above

or below the pendulum, with its centripetal acceleration vector pointing in the vertical

direction. The centripetal acceleration vector therefore has no component in the

direction of the pendulum's motion, and the pendulum is for that instant not

accelerating.

At any other position the centripetal force vector has a nonzero component in the x

direction which has a magnitude less than that of the vector. This component is

identical to the acceleration of the pendulum.**

STUDENT QUESTION

If we want to find the centripetal acceleration of a circle we can use the formula

a_cent= v^2/r

The only thing I wonder about is if we would know what the radius of the circle is or is

there a formula we could use to

solve for this?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The radius of the reference circle is equal to the amplitude of motion.

When a pendulum moving along the x axis it at its maximum position x = A, the reference

point is passing through the positive x axis, and the r vector is directed along the x

axis. Thus the magnitude of the r vector is equal to the amplitude A, and the radius of

the circle is therefore equal to the amplitude.

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Question: `qQuery gen phy problem 9.12 30 kg light supported by wires at 37 deg and 53

deg with horiz.

What is the tension in the wire at 37 degrees, and what is the tension in the other

wire?

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Given Solution:

`a** The given solution is for a 30 kg light. You should be able to adapt the details of

this solution to the 33 kg traffic light in the current edition:

The net force on the light is 0. This means that the net force in the vertical direction

will be 0 and likewise for the net force in the horizontal direction.

We'll let the x axis be horizontal and the y axis vertical and upward.

Let T1 be the tension in the 37 deg wire and T2 the tension in the 53 deg wire. Assuming

that the 37 deg is with the negative x axis then T1 acts at the angle 180 deg - 37 deg =

143 deg.

Gravity exerts a downward force of 30kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 294N.

The x and y components of the forces are as follows:

x y

weight 0 -294 N

T1 T1 cos(143 deg) T1 sin(143 deg)

T2 T2 cos(53 deg) T2 sin(53 deg)

The net force in the x direction is

T1 cos(143 deg) + T2 cos(53 deg) = -.8 T1 + .6 T2

The net force in the y direction is

T1 sin(143 deg) + T2 sin(53 deg) - 294 N = .6 T1 + .8 T2 - 294 N.

These net forces are all zero so

-.8 T1 + .6 T2 = 0 and

.6 T1 + .8 T2 - 294 N = 0.

Solving the first equation for T1 in terms of T2 we obtain T1 = .75 T2.

Plugging this result into the first equation we get

.6 ( .75 T2) + .8 T2 - 294 N = 0 which we rearrange to get

1.25 T2 = 294 N so that

T2 = 294 N / 1.25 = 235 N approx.

Thus T1 = .75 T2 = .75 * 235 N = 176 N approx.. **

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Question: `qQuery problem 9.19 172 cm person supported by scales reading 31.6 kg (under

feet) and 35.1 kg (under top of head).

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Your solution:

35.1 kg/66.7 kg = .53

1.72 m * .53 = .9116 m

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Given Solution:

`a****The solution given here is for a person 170 cm tall, rather than 172 cm tall. You

should be able to adapt the given solution to the 172 cm height; all distances will

increase by factor 172 / 170 = 86 / 85, a little more than 1%:

The center of gravity is the position for which the net torque of the person is zero. If

x represents the distance of this position from the person's head then this position is

also 170 cm - x from the person's feet.

The 35.1 kg reading indicates a force of 35.1 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 344 N and the 31.6 kg

reading indicates a force of 31.6 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = 310 N, both results approximate.

About the point x cm from the head we then have the following, assuming head to the left

and feet to the right:

}torque of force supporting head = -344 N * x

torque of force supporting feet = 310 N * (170 cm - x).

Net torque is zero so we have

-344 N * x + 310 N * (170 cm - x) = 0. We solve for x:

-344 N * x + 310 N * 170 cm - 310 N * x = 0

-654 N * x = -310 N * 170 cm

x = 310 N * 170 cm / (654 N) = 80.5 cm.

The center of mass is therefore 80.5 cm from the head, 89.5 cm from the feet. **

Principles of Physics and General College Physics Problem 9.2: 58 kg on diving board 3.0

m from point B and 4.0 m from point A; torque about point B:

The torque exerted by the weight of the 58 kg person is

torque = moment arm * force = 3.0 meters * (58 kg * 9.8 m/s^2)

= 3.0 meters * 570 N

= 1710 meter * newtons.

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I actually got 1705.2 meter Newtons for that answer.

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Question: `qPrinciples of Physics and General College Physics Problem 9.30: weight in

hand 35 cm from elbow joint, 2.0 kg at CG 15 cm from joint, insertion 6.0 cm from joint.

What weight can be held with 450 N muscle force?

Answer:

(.06 m) Fm - (.15 m)(2 kg)g - (.35 m)(2 kg)g = 0

Fm = [(.15 m)(2 kg)g + (.35 m)(2 kg)g] / .06 m

Fm = [.3 kg m * g + .7 kg m * g] / .06 m

Fm = .21 kg m * g / .06 m

Fm = 3.5 Newtons

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Question: `qQuery gen problem 9.32 arm mass 3.3 kg, ctr of mass at elbow 24 cm from

shoulder, deltoid force Fm at 15 deg 12 cm from shoulder, 15 kg in hand.

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Given Solution:

`a**The total torque about the shoulder joint is zero, since the shoulder is in

equilibrium.

Also the net vertical force on the arm is zero, as is the net horizontal force on the

arm.

The 3.3 kg mass of the arm experiences a downward force from gravity of w = 3.3 kg * 9.8

m/s^2 = 32 N, approx. At 24 cm from the joint the associated torque is 32 N * .24 m = 8

m N, approx.

THe 15 kg in the hand, which is 60 cm from the shoulder, results in a torque of 15 kg *

9.8 m/s^2 * .60 m = 90 m N, approx.

}The only other force comes from the deltoid, which exerts its force at 15 degrees from

horizontal at a point 12 cm from the joint. If F is the force exerted by the deltoid

then the resulting torque is F * sin(15 deg) * .12 m = .03 F, approx..

If we take the torques resulting from gravitational forces as negative and the opposing

torque of the deltoid as positive then we have

- 8 m N - 90 m N + .03 F = 0 (sum of torques is zero),

which we easily solve to obtain F = 3300 N.

This 3300 N force has vertical and horizontal components 3300 N * sin(15 deg) = 800 N

approx., and 3300 N * cos(15 deg) = 3200 N approx..

The net vertical force on the arm must be zero. There is a force of 800 N (vert. comp.

of deltoid force) pulling up on the arm and 32 N (gravitational force) pulling down,

which would result in a net upward vertical force of 768 Newtons, so there must be

another force of 768 N pulling downward. This force is supplied by the reaction force in

the shoulder as the head of the humerus is restrained by the 'socket' of the scapula and

the capsule of ligaments surrounding it.

The net horizontal force must also be zero. The head of the humerus is jammed into the

scapula by the 3200 N horizontal force, and in the absence of such things as

osteoporosis the scapula and capsule easily enough counter this with an equal and

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Question: `qUniv. 11.62 (11.56 10th edition). .036 kg ball beneath .024 kg ball; strings

at angles 53.1 deg and 36.9 deg to horiz rod suspended by strings at ends, angled

strings .6 m apart when joining rod, .2 m from respective ends of rod. Tension in

strings A, B, C, D, E, F (lower ball, upper ball, 53 deg, 37 deg, 37 deg end of rod, 53

deg end).

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Given Solution:

`a** Cord A supports the .0360 kg ball against the force of gravity. We have T - m g = 0

so

T = m g = .0360 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = .355 N.

The second ball experiences the downward .355 N tension in string A, the downward force

.0240 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 = .235 N exerted by gravity and the upward force Tb of tension in

string B so since the system is in equilibrium

Tb - .355 n - .235 N = - and Tb = .59 N.

If Tc and Td are the tensions in strings C and D, since the point where strings B, C and

D join are in equilibrium we have

Tcx + Tdx + Tbx = 0 and

Tcy + Tdy + Tby = 0.

Noting that strings C and D respectively make angles of 53.1 deg and 143.1 deg with the

positive x axis we have

Tby = =.59 N and Tbx = 0.

Tcx = Tc cos(53.1 deg) = .6 Tc Tcy = Tc sin(53.1 deg) = .8 Tc

Tdx = Td cos(143.1 deg) = -.8 Td Tdy = Td sin(143.1 deg) = .6 Td.

So our equations of equilibrium become

.6 Tc - .8 Td = 0

.8 Tc + .6 Td - .59 N = 0.

The first equation tells us that Tc = 8/6 Td = 4/3 Td.

Substituting this into the second equation we have

.8 (4/3 Td) + .6 Td - .59 N = 0

1.067 Td + .6 Td = .59 N

1.667 Td = .59 N

Td = .36 N approx. so that

Tc = 4/3 Td = 4/3 (.36 N) = .48 N approx..

Now consider the torques about the left end of the rod. We have torques of

-(.200 m * Td sin(36.9 deg)) = -.200 m * .36 N * .6 = -.043 m N (note that this torque

is clockwise, therefore negative).

-(.800 m * Tc sin(53.1 deg) = -.800 m * .48 N * .8 = -.31 m N and

1.0 m * Tf, where Tf is the tension in string F.

Total torque is 0 so

-.043 m N - .31 m N + 1.0 m * Tf = 0 and

Tf = .35 N approx..

The net force on the entire system is zero so we have

Te + Tf - .59 N = 0 or

Te = .59 N - Tf = .59 N - .35 N = .24 N. **

STUDENT QUESTION:

Why does the given solution find the torque of the system to calculate the tension of E

and F? Can't you just use the

same logic as you did to find Tension C and B to find it? In other words, Tex + Tfx = 0

and Tey + Tfy = 0.588N.

Actually I see that this won't work because the weight is not in the center of the

system, but how would finding the torque

help us.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE:

Excellent questions.

The conditions of equilibrium are as follows:

each mass is in x and y equlibrium, as is any combination of masses, including the

entire system

each object is in rotational equilibrium, i.e., the torque on each object is zero

We can use the conditions of x and y equilibrium to find the tensions in all the strings

except the ones supporting the ends of the rod., as was done in the given solution.

We know the sum of the tensions in the strings supporting the rod (they add up to .59 N,

the sum of all the weights being supported).

However at this point we don't know how these tensions are balanced, as they must be in

order to prevent rotation. The conditions of x and y equilibrium have taken us as far as

they can. So we now need to consider rotational equilibrium.

We could have taken the torques about any point on the rod.

We chose to use an endpoint because the tension in the string at that point contributes

nothing to the torque about this point, leaving us one less unknown in our equation.

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