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course MTH 173

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Question: `q001. If the water and a certain cylinder is changing depth at a rate of -4 cm/sec at the t = 20 second instant, at which instant the depth is 80 cm, then approximately what do you expect the depth will be at the t = 21 second instant?

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Your solution:

-4cm/s*1sec=-4cm

80cm-4cm= 76cm

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`aAt a rate of -4 cm/s, for the 1-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 21 s the change in depth would be -4 cm/s * 1 sec = -4 cm. If the depth was 80 cm at t = 20 sec, the depth at t = 21 sec would be 80 cm - 4 cm/ = 76 cm.

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Question: `q002. Using the same information, what the you expect the depth will be depth at the t = 30 sec instant? Do you think this estimate is more or less accurate than the estimate you made for the t = 21 second instant?

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Your solution:

-4cm/s* 10sec= -40cm

80cm-40cm= 40cm

I think this estimate will be less accurate because we don’t know if the rate 4cm/s is increasing or decreasing. So more than likely with this estimate we will be off.

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Given Solution:

`aAt - 4 cm/s, during the 10-second interval between t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec we would expect a depth change of -4 cm/sec * 10 sec = -40 cm, which would result in a t = 30 sec depth of 80 cm - 40 cm = 40 cm.

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Question: `q003. If you know that the depth in the preceding example is changing at the rate of -3 cm/s at the t = 30 sec instant, how will this change your estimate for the depth at t = 30 seconds--i.e., will your estimate be the same as before, will you estimate a greater change in depth or a lesser change in depth?

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Your solution:

We are going from -4cm/s to 3cm/s which will cause the change in depth to be less than estimated in the last question.

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Given Solution:

`aSince the rate of depth change has changed from -4 cm / s at t = 20 s to -3 cm / s at t = 30 s, we conclude that the depth probably wouldn't change as much has before.

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Question: `q004. What is your specific estimate of the depth at t = 30 seconds?

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Your solution:

-3cm/s*10sec= -30cm

76cm- 30cm= 46cm

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`aKnowing that at t = 20 sec the rate is -4 cm/s, and at t = 30 sec the rate is -3 cm/s, we could reasonably conjecture that the approximate average rate of change between these to clock times must be about -3.5 cm/s. Over the 10-second interval between t = 20 s and t = 30 s, this would result in a depth change of -3.5 cm/s * 10 sec = -35 cm, and a t = 30 s depth of 80 cm - 35 cm = 45 cm.

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I don’t understand how we are looking for the average when we know what it changed to which was 3cm/s

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The rate was -3 cm/s for only one instant during the entire interval.

The rate was also -4 cm/s for an instant during that interval.

The first instant of the interval is just as much part of the interval as the last. There is no reason to prefer one over the other an assessing what happens during the interval.

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Question: `q005. If we have a uniform cylinder with a uniformly sized hole from which water is leaking, so that the quadratic model is very nearly a precise model of what actually happens, then the prediction that the depth will change and average rate of -3.5 cm/sec is accurate. This is because the rate at which the water depth changes will in this case be a linear function of clock time, and the average value of a linear function between two clock times must be equal to the average of its values at those to clock times.

If y is the function that tells us the depth of the water as a function of clock time, then we let y ' stand for the function that tells us the rate at which depth changes as a function of clock time.

If the rate at which depth changes is accurately modeled by the linear function y ' = .1 t - 6, with t in sec and y in cm/s, verify that the rates at t = 20 sec and t = 30 sec are indeed -4 cm/s and -3 cm/s.

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Your solution:

y ' = .1 ( 20 s) - 6 = 2 - 6 = -4cm/s

y ' = .1 ( 30 s) - 6 = 3 - 6 = -3cm/s

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Given Solution:

`aAt t = 20 sec, we evaluate y ' to obtain y ' = .1 ( 20 sec) - 6 = 2 - 6 = -4, representing -4 cm/s.

At t = 30 sec, we evaluate y' to obtain y' = .1 ( 30 sec) - 6 = 3 - 6 = -3, representing -3 cm/s.

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## I got the answer right because I knew what it was looking for which was in cm/s but what part of y’=.01t-6 is in cm?????

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The question specifies that when t is given in seconds, y ' will be in cm / second.

That is less confusing to most students than the following tighter, but equivalent, definition:

y ' = .01 cm/s^2 * t - 6 cm/s.

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Question: `q006. For the rate function y ' = .1 t - 6, at what clock time does the rate of depth change first equal zero?

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Your solution:

y ' = .1 t - 6 = 60 s

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Per my previous note, y ' is in cm/s, not seconds.

So y ' cannot equal 60 seconds, which is what your statement implies.

When y ' = 0, t = 60 seconds. But y ' does not equal 60 seconds.

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Given Solution:

`aThe rate of depth change is first equal to zero when y ' = .1 t - 6 = 0. This equation is easily solved to see that t = 60 sec.

STUDENT COMMENT

This was pretty straight forward, I could look at it and figure out the time to find zero, but if the times were not spaced

out by ten second intervals the finding of zero would be hard to do.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

If you write down the equation and solve it, it works out easily enough.

For example if the equation was .07 t - 12 = 0, you would add 12 to both sides then divide by .07 to get t = 12 / .07, which is approximately 170.

Of course if the equation is more difficult (e.g an equation like .02 t^2 + 4.2 t^2 - t + 9 = 0) it gets harder to solve for t, and it doesn't take much to come up the an equation that's impossible to solve. But the linear equation of this problem wouldn't be difficult.

You will in any case be expected to be able to solve linear and quadratic equations.

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Question: `q007. How much depth change is there between t = 20 sec and the time at which depth stops changing?

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I would say that its simple math we start with 80 cm and end up with zero so the depth change is -80cm.

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Given Solution:

`aThe rate of depth change at t = 20 sec is - 4 cm/s; at t = 60 sec the rate is 0 cm/s. The average rate at which depth changes during this 40-second interval is therefore the average of -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, or -2 cm/s.

At an average rate of -2 cm/s for 40 s, the depth change will be -80 cm. Starting at 80 cm when t = 20 sec, we see that the depth at t = 60 is therefore 80 cm - 80 cm = 0.

STUDENT QUESTION

I dont totally understand where the 2 cm/s comes from.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s, calculated from the given rate function, are applicable to the interval between t = 20 sec and t = 60 sec.

The first is the rate at the beginning of the interval, and the second is the rate at the end of the interval.

Without additional information, our first conjecture would be that the average rate is the average of the initial and final rates. For different situations this conjecture might be more or less valid; in this case since the rate function is linear, it turns out that it is completely valid.

The average of the two rates -4 cm/s and 0 cm/s is -2 cm/s, and this is the rate we apply to our analysis of this interval.

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###I see my answer in the given solution but I’m pretty sure that its wrong right???

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You didn't do a very good job of describing the details, but the bottom line is that the average rate is -2 cm/s, the time interval lasts 40 s, so the change in depth is -2 cm/s * 40 s = -80 cm.

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