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4/26 about 2 pm

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Question: `qprinciples of physics and gen phy 4.26 free-body diagram of baseball at moment hit, flying toward outfield

gen phy list the forces on the ball while in contact with the bat, and describe the directions of these forces

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Your solution:

There would of course be a gravitational force on the ball along with a force perpendicular to the surface of the bat at which the ball hits, determining the angle at which it will accelerate. This force would be at the angle determined by the spot on the bat that the ball strikes and would have an x and y component.

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Given Solution:

`a** Gravity exerts a downward force equal to the weight of the ball.

While in contact with the ball, and only while i contact, the bat exerts a normal force, which pushes outward along a line originating from the central axis of the bat. This force is perpendicular to the surface of the bat at the point of contact.

Unless the direction of the ball is directly toward the center of the bat, which will not be the case if the ball is hit at an upward angle by a nearly level swing, there will also be a frictional force between bat and ball. This frictional force will be parallel to the surface of the bat and will act on the ball in the 'forward' direction.

COMMON STUDENT ERROR: The gravitational force and the force exerted by the ball on the bat are equal and opposite.

The force of the bat on the ball and the gravitational force are not equal and opposite, since this is not an equilibrium situation--the ball is definitely being accelerated by the net force, so the net force is not zero. **

COMMON STUDENT ERROR: Confusing motion in a direction with force in that direction.

There is no force associated with the motion of the ball. The velocity of the ball in will remain unchanged if there is no net force on the ball. Furthermore, if the is net force has zero component in the x direction, the x velocity remains unchanged; the analogous statement holds for the y direction.

STUDENT QUESTION

I got confused about the motion in the direction with the force in that direction. I think I understand.

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The force tells you the direction of the acceleration, not the direction of the velocity. From the force you can therefore tell the direction of the change in velocity, not the direction of the velocity itself.

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Self-critique (if necessary): I did not think about the frictional force. ???Would the frictional force be what causes the ball to have a rotational spin through flight???

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The frictional force between the bat and the ball results in rotation. If the ball initially had no spin and the bat hit it 'head-on' (the central point of contact being on the same line at that joining the centers of bat and ball) the frictional force would exert no torque and there would be no spin.

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Question: Openstax: The wheels of a midsize car exert a force of 2100 N backward on the road to accelerate the car in the forward direction. If the force of friction including air resistance is 250 N and the acceleration of the car is 1.80 m/s^2 , what is the mass of the car plus its occupants? Explicitly show how you follow the steps in the Problem-Solving Strategy for Newton’s laws of motion. For this situation, draw a free-body diagram and write the net force equation.

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Your solution:

If the tires are exerting the force backwards, then the force exerted by the road on the car is equal and opposite.

My diagram shows the car with a positive 2100 N force in the direction of motion and a negative 250 N force opposing motion.

F_net = 2100 N - 250 N = 1850 N

M = F_net / a = 1850 (kg*m/s^2) / 1.8 m/s^2 = 1028 kg = 1000 kg

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Given Solution:

To clarify, there are three frictional forces operating here. One is the static frictional force between the tires and the road. The force exerted by the tires on the road is 2100 N backward, and the frictional force exerted by the road on the tires is 2100 N forward.

The 'force of friction including air resistance' includes the rolling friction of between the tires and the road, and the air resistance. This force totals 250 N, and is in the direction opposite motion.

Taking the forward direction as positive, the net force exerted on the car is therefore 2100 N - 250 N = 1850 N.

Rearranging the formulation F_net = m a of Newton's Second Law, we obtain

m = F_net / a = 1800 N / (1.8 m/s^2) = 1000 N / (m/s^2) = 1000 kg m/s^2 / (m/s^2) = 1000 kg.

Your solution should have included a description of your free-body diagram.

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Question: Openstax: Two children pull a third child on a snow saucer sled exerting forces F1 and F2 as shown from above in Figure 4.36. Find the acceleration of the 49.00-kg sled and child system. Note that the direction of the frictional force is unspecified; it will be in the opposite direction of the sum of F1 and F2 .

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Your solution:

‘theta_F_2 = -30 deg. + 360 deg. = 330 deg.

F_1x = 10 N * cos 45 deg. = 7 N

F_1y = 10 N * sin 45 deg. = 7 N

F_2x = 8 N * cos 330 deg. = 7 N

F_2x = 8 N * sin 330 deg. = -4 N

Sum of F_x = 7 N + 7 N = 14 N

Sum of F_y = 7 N - 4 N = 3 N

F_mag = ‘sqrt((14 N)^2 + (3 N)^2) = 14.3 N

‘theta_F_mag = arctan(3 N / 14 N) = 12.1 deg.

So F_f will be at an angle of 12.1 deg. + 180 deg. = 192.1 deg.

F_net = 14.3 N - 7.5 N = 6.8 N at an angle of 12.1 deg.

A = F_net / m = 6.8 N / 49.0 kg = 0.14 m/s^2

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Given Solution:

Taking the rightward direction as that of the positive x axis, we have forces F_1 of 10 N at 45 deg and F_2 of 8 N at 330 deg. The components of these forces are

F_1_x = 10 N cos(45 deg) = 7 N, approx. and

F_1_y = 10 N sin(45 deg) = 7 N, approx.

F_2_x = 8 N cos(330 deg) = 4 N

F_2_y = 8 N sin(330 deg) = -7 N, approx.

If F = F_1 + F_2 then

F_x = 7 N + 4 N = 11 N, approx.

F_y = 7 N - 7 N = 0 N, approx.

Thus F = 11 N at 0 deg, i.e., 11 N directed approximately along the positive x axis.

The frictional force will therefore be directed approximatly along the negative x axis, and the net force will be

F_net = 11 N - 7.5 N = 3.5 N along the positive x axis.

The acceleration of the sled will be

a = F_net / m,

where m is the 49 kg mass of the system. We get

a = 3.5 N / 49 kg = .07 m/s^2 in the positive x direction.

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Self-critique (if necessary):My answer varies from yours. Looking at F_2 you have F_x = 4 N and F_y = -7 N, and I have F_x = 7 N and F_y = -4 N. I checked mine multiple time and think I am right.

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Very good. You are correct. In the given solution I reversed the x and y components of F_2.

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Question: Openstax: What force is exerted on the tooth in Figure 4.38 if the tension in the wire is 25.0 N? Note that the force applied to the tooth is smaller than the tension in the wire, but this is necessitated by practical considerations of how force can be applied in the mouth. Explicitly show how you follow steps in the Problem-Solving Strategy for Newton’s laws of motion.

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Your solution:

Taking the negative y direction to be pointed towards the back of the mouth.

The two angles are 180 deg. + 15 deg. = 195 deg. and 360 deg. - 15 deg. = 345 deg.

T_1x = 25 N * cos 195 deg. = -24 N

T_1y = 25 N * sin 195 deg. = -6.5 N

T_2x = 25 N * cos 345 deg. = 24 N

T_2y = 25 N * sin 345 deg. = -6.5 N

Sum of x components = -24 N + 24 N = 0 N

Sum of y components = -6.5 N - 6.5 N = -13 N

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Given Solution:

The tension acts toward the right and down, and toward the left and down.

Taking the rightward direction as the positive x direction, the directions of the two tension forces are 345 deg and 195 deg. The magnitude of each tension force is 25 N. So, using T_1 and T_2 for two two tension forces, the x and y components are

T_1_x = 25 N cos(345 deg) = 24 N, approx..

T_1_y = 25 N sin(345 deg) = -6 N, approx..

T_2_x = 25 N cos(195 deg) = -24 N, approx..

T_2_y = 25 N sin(195 deg) = -6 N, approx..

The x component of the net force is therefore T_1_x + T_2_x = 24 N + (- 24 N) = 0, and the y component is -6 N + (- 6 N) = -12 N.

The net force is thus 12 N in the downward y direction (toward the back of the mouth).

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Self-critique (if necessary):I thought this through and then looked at the given solution but my initial thinking was that if the T in the wire is 25 N, then the T vectors shown should have been 12.5 N. ???Can you explain to me why it is not???

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Good question.

The tension pulls on any point in the wire with 25 Newtons. If the point is at the end of the wire, then (provided the system is in equilibrium) the tension force pulls only in the direction away from the end and something else (your hand, a bolt in a tree, etc.) pulls in the opposite direction in order to maintain equilibrium.

At a point interior to the wire, the tension pulls with the 25 N force in both directions.

If the force on an interior point was only 12.5 Newtons in each direction, then consider a point near the end, and consider the segment of wire between this point and the end. That segment would experience a force of only 12.5 Newtons on one end, and 25 N on the other, so it could not be in equlibrium.

Intuitively, if you inserted a light spring at an interior point and pulled on one end of the wire with a 25 N force, you would expect that the spring would stretch to exert a 25 N force in the opposite direction. The 25 N tension in the spring would tend to pull each end of the spring toward the other, so the ends of the wire attached to the ends of the spring would both experience the 25 N force.

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Question: `qgen phy list the forces on the ball while flying toward the outfield, and describe the directions of these forces

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Your solution:

Gravitational force directed downwards at all times and air resistance opposing motion at all times, so it is constantly changing.

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Given Solution:

`a**After impact the forces are gravity, which is constant and in the y direction, and air resistance. The direction of the force of air resistance is opposite to the direction of motion. The direction of motion is of course constantly changing, and the magnitude of the force of air resistance depends on the speed of the ball with respect to the air, which is also changing. **

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Question: `qgen phy give the source of each force you have described

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Your solution:

Gravitation force is caused by the earths gravity.

The normal force which gives the ball its initial velocity after impact, is perpendicular to the impact point on the bat and is similar to the normal force of an object sitting on a table in that it is the force that acts on the ball by the bat.

Friction is caused by the ball not hitting directly horizontal with the bat and causing the ball to spin. This could be smaller or larger depending on the type of bat being used.

Air friction is caused by the ball flying through the air and slowing acceleration in the direction of motion.

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Given Solution:

`a** The gravitational force is the result of the gravitational attraction between the ball and the Earth.

The normal force is the result of the elastic compression of bat and ball.

The frictional force is due to a variety of phenomena related to the tendency of the surfaces to interlock (electromagnetic forces are involved) and to encounter small 'bumps' in the surfaces. **

ERRONEOUS STUDENT ANSWER:

the air, the pitcher, the bat/ batter. friction. gravity

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: All these are sources of force in one or both situations (bat striking ball, ball flying toward outfield) except the pitcher. The pitcher exerted a force previously, and that force was instrumental in delivering the ball to the batter, but that force ended well before any of these events occurred.

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Question: `qgen phy what is the direction of the net force on the ball while in contact with the bat?

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Your solution:

At first thought it should be nearly the same as the normal force, which is perpendicular to the point of impact. There would though be gravitation force which would reduce the y component of the net force. So it should be at a slightly less angle than the normal force.

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Given Solution:

`a** We assume that the y axis is directed vertically upward, and the x axis is horizontal.

The normal force will vary from 0 at the instant of first contact, to a maximum at the instant of greatest compression, and back to 0 at the instant contact ceases. So there is no single normal force. However we can represent 'the' normal force as the average normal force.

The gravitational force will remain constant.

The frictional force will vary with the changing normal force, and we will speak here of the average frictional force.

The average normal force will be the greatest of these forces, much greater than friction or gravity. The frictional force will likely also exceed the gravitational force.

The y component of the normal force will overwhelm the y components of the frictional force and the gravitational force, both of which are downward, giving us a net y component slightly less than the y component of the normal force.

The x component of the normal force will be reinforced by the x component of the frictional force, making the x component of the net force a bit greater than the x component of the normal force.

This will result in a net force that is 'tilted' forward and slightly down from the normal force (see the figure at the end for a vector diagram showing normal, frictional, gravitational and resultant forces).

Note that the frictional and gravitational forces will tend to 'spin' the baseball as well as contributing to its translational acceleration. The spinning effect is a topic for a later chapter. **

IMPORTANT NOTE: It is essential that you sketch a diagram showing these forces. You are very unlikely to understand the explanation given here without a picture. Even with a picture this might be challenging. If you are not sure you understand, you should submit a copy of this question and solution, along your questions and/or commentary (mark insertions with ****).

STUDENT COMMENT: Not sure about the frictional force. Why is it down? How do we calculate it?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE: The frictional force exerted on the ball by the bat is perpendicular to the normal force, so the frictional force is exerted in the plane tangent to both the ball and the bat (imagine a flat piece of cardboard sandwiched between the ball and the bat; it lies in this tangent plane. If you have a line segment connecting the middle of the ball with the middle of the bat, it is perpendicular to the tangent plane (this line segment would cut through the piece of carboard at a right angle). Note that the direction of the normal force on the ball is along this line.).

It is clear that the x component of the frictional force on the ball is in the 'forward' direction of motion. It is also clear that the in the tangent plane, the 'forward' direction is also downward. So the frictional force has a positive x component, and a negative y component.

Assuming the ball does not 'slip' in contact with the bat, the frictional force is the force of static friction. The force of static friction cannot exceed the product of the coefficient of friction and the normal force:

f_static < = mu * N, where f_static is the force of static friction, mu is the coefficient of static friction and N is the normal force.

STUDENT QUESTION

So the net force is tilted slightly, what does this mean, is it parallel to the ball and then slightly

perpendicular at the same time so it tends to curve?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Is there a ready made sketch in our notes so that I can see if what I drew is correct?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The ball is represented in the figure below by the light pink circle, the bat by the green circle. The ball has arrived from the left, the bat is being swung to the right. The normal force acts perpendicular to the surface where the ball and bat make contact; the normal force is represented by the vector pointing toward upper right. The frictional force acts parallel to the surface of contact, and is represented by the shorter vector pointing down and to the left. (The ball and bat actually compress significantly, the ball more than the bat, and that compression is the source of the normal force. However the compression is not depicted in the figure.)

The figure does not represent the gravitational force on the ball, which would be depicted as a downward force acting at the center of the ball. In a typical 'hit', the gravitational force would be much less than either the frictional or the normal force.

The three forces are shown in the figure below, head-to-tail, along with the resultant force (the resultant is in red; the gravitational force is in the downward vertical direction and would likely be much less than depicted here).

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Self-critique (if necessary): After reading your given solution my answer is still mostly correct but I did not account for the frictional force. I do so, as I noted in an earlier self-critique, that the frictional force does contribute to the spin of the ball. I also did not think about the net force not being consistent throughout impact but this does make sense to me.

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Question: `qgen phy what is the net force on the ball while flying toward the outfield?

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Your solution:

The x component would be simply the x component of the air resistance.

The y component would be the y component of the air resistance along with gravitational force. This net force would be constantly changing as the direction of the air resistance would be changing since it will oppose the motion of the ball and the motion of the ball is constantly changing.

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Given Solution:

`a** The net force will consist of the downward gravitational force and the force of air resistance opposing the motion.

If the ball is rising the y component of the air resistance will be in the downward direction, reinforcing the gravitational force and giving a net downward y component slightly exceeding that of gravity.

If the ball is falling the y component will be in the upward direction, opposing the gravitational force and giving a net downward y component slightly less than that of gravity.

In either case the x component will be in the direction opposite to the 'forward' motion of the ball, so the net force will be directed mostly downward but also a bit 'backward'.

There are also air pressure forces related to the spinning of the ball; the net force exerted by air pressure causes the path of the ball to curve a bit, but these forces won't be considered here. **

STUDENT QUESTION

What about as the ball is moving forward, is ther no air resistance being pushed against the ball horizontally as it flies to the outfield?

INSTRUCTOR RESPONSE

The ball typically experiences air resistance with components in both the x and the y direction.

If it's rising the y component of the air resistance is downward, if it's falling the y component is upward. If it's at the very top of its arc, then for an instant it is neither rising nor falling and there is no air resistance in the y direction.

The x component of the air resistance is in the direction opposite the 'forward' motion of the ball. I believe this is the force you asked about in your question.

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Self-critique (if necessary):I did not note that the direction of the y component of the air resistance will change from pointing downwards to pointing upwards as the ball ascends and then descends.

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